what are these writings/symbols?

Originally posted by Byrd
It would appear that the first word is"HMLBWTh" (if it was read in the correct direction -- reading in the wrong direction gives you "GYYMS").

If you refer to the chart you posted, the word is HMLRWTh; you are confusing the Res and the Bet.

Which is substantially his original identification, sans vowels.

[edit on 12-2-2009 by Eleleth]

Just an idea, but if we look back into ancient times and find the astrological connection the bird could symbolize the phoenix rising from the god head (snake) the text could talk about 2012, and the rising of the phoenix from the ashes to bring the new age. If you were to look up at the milky way right now you could see the head of the snake with its tail in its mouth. Above the eye the the constilation of the phoenix will rise and there will be a triple eclipes. Its also the alignment of the galaxtic plane, astrological plane and earth on december 21, 2012. Every major religion and ancient world knows this.

hope you get it translated.

Originally posted by Eleleth

Originally posted by Byrd
It would appear that the first word is"HMLBWTh" (if it was read in the correct direction -- reading in the wrong direction gives you "GYYMS").

If you refer to the chart you posted, the word is HMLRWTh; you are confusing the Res and the Bet.

Which is substantially his original identification, sans vowels.

[edit on 12-2-2009 by Eleleth]

On the second go, yes, after two of us said "no, the scramble of words you posted first couldn't possibly be it." Then both of us came up with HMLBWTH/HMLRWTH for the first word. After that, he returned with the "it means heaven" interpretation.

My point is that this person showed up and proclaimed their expertise in these alphabets and languages -- and offered us a reading of the letters and a translation. Everyone was impressed... and then the scholars (including myself) started to check his translation and interpretation.

Both are, apparently, very wrong. Then the person shows up with an amended version of the first word, completely different from the first interpretation and very similar to the corrections that we posted.

I found it interesting that an "expert" in the ancient languages and alphabets couldn't correctly read the alphabet in the first place and changes the words when corrected by others. And I wonder why an "expert" can't get the letters right the first time and why the "transliteration" (swapping symbols for alphabet letters) of the message was 20 letters short the first time.

We get a lot of frauds weighing in on subjects here, pretending to be experts in certain things. When you find that someone's interpretation is off the charts, it's always a good idea to ask what's going on. Sometimes there's a good explanation for it (which is why asking for more info is the right thing)... sometimes the explanation is that the person is not telling the truth about their qualifications.

looks like someone marking for future use.

reply to post by Byrd


With all due respect, can you even understand Hebrew/Aramaic? I speak fluent biblical and modern Hebrew. And here I am arguing about the most simple of translations. If you really need a letter by letter translation, and an explanation of how Semitic languages work, please U2U me and I would be most overjoyed to give you a private lesson.

[edit on 18-2-2009 by dashen]

This Picture was a screen caputred image from the Movie Stigmata and the Alphabet pictured is Aramaic but its all gibberish becuase it was for a movie and the only people who know how to write this live in a small grouping of villages in Syria. I think this poster posted this to get a rise out of you all and is playing you for fools.

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no "this" picture that i posted came straight from my father inlaws bedroom wall, taken with my cell phone a motoQ9c.

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if u look at the picture i posted again, you will clearly see one of the fan blades from the ceiling fan.