what are these writings/symbols?

reply to post by keeff


Its a form of ancient writing thought to be religious; but it isn't written properly, the dots to denote the different letters are missing, and its written with far to much of a slant. Also distinction between masculine and feminine are missing. Very poor attempt at an artistic work if anything.

Guys, I know what it says.....




"All your base belong to us!"



Haha, sorry, I just couldn't help myself. It's definitely interesting and does show some similarity to the stigma clip provided. Hopefully someone can give a definitive ruling sooner than later.

now that I look a little into it, it looks like a combination as stated earlier of hebrew and Paleo Hebrew scripts..


www.ancientscripts.com...

www.hebrew4christians.com...

Edit to fix link

[edit on 28-1-2009 by Mysterysoul]

It has been solved the other guy had it right its ripped right off of stigmata. I do not know what people are looking for in somthing that was written by 2 guys in alabama who could not pay their rent. This was not found in some cave or tomb. 2 dudes 1 house alabama stigmata that is all.

reply to post by YoungStalin


i am not saying that this is some great mystery. all i asked was if someone could tell me what it means. and if you read the posts correctly, you would understand this and also that they were in michigan and my father in-law came from Alabama.

i do not think it is some cryptic message about doomsday,or the third coming of christ/anti-christ. it was not writtin eons ago, it was writtin maybe 7 months at the most.

i am just asking for help as to what it says or stands for.

reply to post by Mysterysoul


thanks for the links. it does look like a mix of both text.

now i just need to get it translated.

it is a mix of phoenician and other alphabets, go to omniglot.com and click on abjads. It is meaningless and was probably the writers just writing their names or messages, prayers or hopes, just for the fun of it.

reply to post by keeff


no prob, yeah I wasn't thinking it was some huge mystery either the symbols look very much like the ones in the movie Stigmata, would still be interesting to see if you could get it translated, at least to see what they were trying to do.

A friend of mine is a prison guard, and I have seen similar stuff that he has confiscated from prisoners. So it’s a type of code/script that is used between gang members for confidential messages. I’ll give him a buzz and have him take a look at it when he gets off shift later. If that is what it is, he might even be able to decode it for us.

Over the years I've known a lot of transient kids and youth who will fixate on a movie of some sort and leave traces of graffitti on the walls of homes/apartments just for a bit of noteriety.

Kind of akin to "Dave was here" but with a bit of a cryptic bent to it.

I've seen all sorts of pseudo-authentic letterings and rough translation, to your standard run of the mill symbols, runes, alternate alphabets and what not. Sometimes squatters will reside in a particular house/apartment just long enough to "act out" a scene from their personal dramas and then move on....other times it's just a conversation piece or artistic expression.

I'm sure there are some people who are trying to dechipher some of the things I've left on walls in the past, but that's another story entirely...

Seeing as how the lettering almost matches point-for-point from the movie Stigmata, it suggests a high probablity that they were simply referencing this movie.

As far as a literal translation of the movie text - well, all I can say about the Industry is this : sometimes they make stuff up. GO figure that one out!

Then again, there is the possibility that the artistic advisor for the film actually knew what he/she was writing. Unlikely, but not improbable.

However, rarely is it an authentic translation in horror movies of this sorts, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. Inaccurate use of ancient texts is kind of one of those side games to the film, and gets people off their bums and into books trying to solve the mystery. It's an old trick of the trade.

Now I've been over to the film discussion boards for this particular movie, and haven't found any leads as to what this text may or may not signify.

Your best bet for a translation is to find out if it is indeed authentic Aramaic, and then go from there.

*two cents*



*edit for spelling


[edit on 1/28/09 by GENERAL EYES]

I give up! Did they speak English? The writing doesn't seem to be just gobbledegook, it conforms to standard rules of grammar. There are thirteen characters and four are high frequency, appearing 9-10 times.

The 9th word is key to translating the message and also leads me to believe that's it's not coded English. It's an 8 letter word of three characters and would have variations like;
-E-EE---
-O-OO---
-L-LL---
-S-SS---
The dashes represent missing letters. The word also has another double character and can be worked out;
S-----SS
E-----EE

There's no word in the English language that can fit here, so the translation must be in a different language.

The second character of the 2nd word could also be used as a key to the translation. It can be S or O. The 16th word is also a two letter word and shares the W character. If the 'W' character represented O, the word would be SO, TO or GO. If the 'W' represented S, the word could be AS or IS.

Insomnia, and I'm trying to solve a puzzle left by a couple of rent dodgers I think that it means something in another language. French? Polish? Who knows? I agree that it's unlikely to be anything that matters much. Probably a blessing or prayer to God. Several symbols are Aramaic as you can see here. I'll be checking back to see if anyone's posted a translation. Puzzles intrigue me.

Yep, its mostly gibberish but it is all ancient Hebrew/Phonecian. What is not gibberish speaks of what seems to be a geneology of a family the first line reads "the Kingdom? (Malrut, should read Malchut) of Smeeg" and the last three lines roughly say "Father of Selah, and Brother of Hapoh/Hanoh?, My brother killed". Cheers.

[edit on 29-1-2009 by dashen]

[edit on 29-1-2009 by dashen]

I was wondering since one site mentioned some people still use this in places such as Syria, than it would add some information to know what nationality these people were. From the post above, I would wonder if they were from the middle east or even terrorists.

Im not sure if this link was provided yet but try this www.canaanite.org...
however, I did try to put the english letters to the symbols and Im getting nothing out of it. Very curious to find out what this means as well. How fun and interesting!

It is Aramaic. Everyone of the characters used in the OP's pic are also featured on this page:
Proto-Hebrew/Early Aramaic alphabet

For anyone that didn't watch stigmata (amazing movie) - Aramaic was the language she was supposed to be writing in the film, but as someone mentioned previously...it's doubtful that it means anything.

reply to post by de9571


Didn't I aptly decipher the message? Didn't I spell out exactly what it said?(less the gibberish). What do I need to do?


[edit on 29-1-2009 by dashen]

reply to post by keeff

Hey there keeff,

I did a little search and found this (see below), it seems to have a lot of the symbols / glyphs in the message but when I tried to translate it using these glyphs it makes no sense (in English at least) ... maybe it's in a different language.




(hope this works)

Woody

reply to post by woodwytch


Hellooooo, can anybody see my posts? Anyone? Already translated it. Woohoo! Anyone? Please respond!

reply to post by xynephadyn


I was beginning to think that myself. However, I wondered if the people were possibly involved in the dark arts. Some of the symbols that are repeated I have come across on the internet, and when I first saw them-I thought of some kind of summoning for a demon.

A curse does seem to be appropriate, in this instance. I got the sense of it being sinister anyway.

reply to post by dashen


Sorry. I was posting while you were posting, and I suspect many others were as well which is why we didn't see your translation.