A Remote View Map of the Future?

That's very interesting doc.

I've had some psi stuff -- not formal sessions -- where I literally get entire maps "and more" and things like that, so I certainly believe it's possible.

If I don't forget, I might make your map a target for myself and some friends. If so I'll get your PEM for the data.

PJ

I forgot to ask. Can you tell me the protocol you were using for that data? (This does not refer to psychic method. This refers to the science controls, e.g. blind, doubleblind, others present, etc. Did you know it was '2010'?) This doesn't to me invalidate it -- I'm really interested in this because when I get 'graphic icons' as RV data, that is really rare but they're always awesome data when I do -- so it makes me think if it came through that clearly for you maybe there's something to it. Just like to know more about your original for feedback to the viewers about the task source. Thanks. Palyne

Originally posted by RedCairo
Can you tell me the protocol you were using for that data? (This does not refer to psychic method. This refers to the science controls, e.g. blind, doubleblind, others present, etc. Did you know it was '2010'?)... Thanks. Palyne

I'm the first to admit that my technique is about as far-removed from Science and the scientific method as it can be. In fact, I suppose I shouldn't call it remote viewing, even in the pseudo-scientific sense, except that it involves a prompter (my present self) and a receiver (my future self).

I can only try to explain my method of visualizing the past-present-future connection, and it's nothing if not scientific. It's based on the notion that I am one continuous, sentient being stretching across decades of time and space — which is what most human beings are, from a certain perspective (unless their lives are terminated at an early age). Employing this visualization, I attempt to transfer information back and forth to myself, sometimes only hours or days in advance, but sometimes years or even decades in advance. The feedback can be pretty startling.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 2/27/2009 by Doc Velocity]

That's actually not an uncommon model in viewing, either. (There are many.)

That doesn't really fall into the protocol boat so much as the "paradigm" boat -- we all have a "way of framing or thinking about things" that works for us. Information from future-self-feedback is IMO probably one of the best of the seemingly infinite sources of data. Good for learning theory basics, too.

I meant only the tasking protocol. If you or anyone present knows the target it's still legitimate psi work, it's just not technically RV, but that doesn't really matter -- I find all psi work to be interesting and worth exploring.

Best,
Palyne

Perhaps it has somthing to do with the 2010 tidle wave predicted to hit the eastcoast of the US. Sorry I dont have much info, but I overheard a conversation about someone watched a show that said the CIA was being relocated to the central US, due to the threat of a tidal wave expected to hit the eastcoast. They said the government was well aware of the threat and it was going to be caused by planet beneath us. But I must add, Ive had too many odd dreams of tidal waves, even before the Thiland tsunami.

jane

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Well, I admit started employing this technique a few years ago in repeated attempts to win the lottery; and, yes, it worked. Skeptics still probably wouldn't accept my lottery wins as "confirmed hits," inasmuch as I never publicly announced my number selections in advance. But, then, why would I do that, anyway?

I use remote viewing for my own private reasons, not to predict earthquakes in earthquake-prone areas nor tsunamis along coastlines — anyone can do that. Suffice to say I've seen enough personal success with my technique to know that it works.
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Sorry but I don't believe in remote viewing. As far as I'm concerned it's hogwash. I think your having premonitions, glimpses of a possible future etc. Even premonitions are hard to accept but they make a hell of a lot more sense than remote viewing.
You say that you don't use remote viewing to predict tsunami's etc, and then go on to say, "Anyone can do that!" Well I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I don't believe anyone can do that. . ! If you really can predict the lottery numbers then you should by now be a multi millionaire laying about on some tropical beach somewhere, drinking tequila and enjoying life, not dishing out this sort of nonsense on the internet.
No offence meant but I'll start believing when someone shows me a modicum of proof. I won't be holding my breath.

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What an awesome gift you have. I would love to learn how to do this.

People believe what they choose. I was a medical model skeptic at one point. That's probably part of why still to this day I'm a major science buff. Now many of my previous belief systems seem simplistic if not downright retarded.

If you don't believe in psychic functioning, it's probably because you're not particularly competent at having it, and nobody can be expected to believe in something they've never experienced, that's fair. While it's unfortunate, a bit like being color blind, I understand everybody is different in this regard, and I'm sure you have other talents.

I suspect, though, that if you merely had no belief in it, you wouldn't be ranting on threads about it, you'd be talking about things of more value to you. The posting sounds more like a psychology issue than a psi issue. Hope you get that taken care of someday.


Back on topic to the thread, I think anybody exploring this stuff is having fun and doing something proactive. Doesn't matter what. As far as the geography stuff, the problem with that is nothing is totally accurate, and people telling someone else that "you're all gonna die" is profoundly unethical. It just breeds fear without solution. Best to use your psi for your own purposes, like you're doing.

I've never tried the lottery. I suck at getting numbers directly though, although I've never done a specific dowsing-style test on it. I just don't really have a belief system to support it; I think if I were willing to allow that for myself I'd already be winning stuff by 'luck' (without regard to psi). I think if a person is not willing to let certain things into their reality, no amount of psi is going to get it for them because they're working against themselves. I'm impressed that you've managed it.

Best,
PJ

Originally posted by captiva
Can I add that "Dead in the water" can also be used as a description for a lost cause, people who are unsaveable.

That's a good point.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
You say that you don't use remote viewing to predict tsunami's etc, and then go on to say, "Anyone can do that!" Well I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I don't believe anyone can do that.

You're taking me out of context. What I said was that I don't try to predict earthquakes in earthquake-prone areas nor tsunamis along coastlines.

Earthquakes always occur in earthquake-prone areas. Tsunamis always strike coastlines. Anybody can predict that an earthquake will occur in California, for example. Anybody can predict that a tidal wave will strike a coastline somewhere. Those are like throwaway predictions. Anybody can do that. I don't.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
If you really can predict the lottery numbers then you should by now be a multi millionaire laying about on some tropical beach somewhere, drinking tequila and enjoying life, not dishing out this sort of nonsense on the internet.

Well, you give me a lot of credit for my psychic abilities. In my efforts to see a randomly-selected set of 6 numbers, I can pretty reliably hit 4 numbers. That's either 4 regular numbers or 3 regular numbers and the Powerball. And since I always opt for PowerPlay, I do, in fact, win up to several hundred dollars pretty regularly. Fortunately, they haven't figured out a way to tax psychic ability.

I don't fully understand why I can't see all 6 winning numbers. Is there such a thing as psychic traffic? Because I can just imagine that millions of people out there are all trying the same thing, trying to see a few hours into the future, all focused on the same 6 numbers. Perhaps it produces a psychic gridlock.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
No offence meant but I'll start believing when someone shows me a modicum of proof. I won't be holding my breath.

No offense taken. The purpose of this thread is to produce the very proof you seek. I intend to keep this thread alive with The Map through the year 2010, so we can all see how accurate (or inaccurate) I am. Based on my prior experience, I'd say I'm very accurate; but, of course, I realize that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

So, with your kind patience, we'll just wait and see what happens.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 3/3/2009 by Doc Velocity]

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Perhaps it has somthing to do with the 2010 tidle wave predicted to hit the eastcoast of the US

I don't think that my Map is related to a natural catastrophe in North America. I didn't see or hear anything about America, aside from the U.S. Navy taking a terrible blow from a Chinese "mistake."

Now, I have viewed a period of the future when there are geosynchronous mirror satellites used to reflect light onto the Earth (for some reason unknown to me), and it's during this period that a huge section of the continental shelf off of the Carolinas breaks loose and plunges into the Atlantic. That's, like, 150 years in the future. Surf's up.

— Doc Velocity

Thanks--- very interesting! I get prophetic dreams about the future aswell--- they mostly involve things falling from the sky- seeing alien airships in the sky- and airships coming out of the oceans. I get the impression of nuclear warfare. I havent had luck pinpointing locations though.

I think the concept that you communicated with your past child self is very cool and as I know from personal experience, very real. I think people totally downplay the fabric of time- I experience it bend all the time. I think it is a radical idea though- to perhaps maybe even intervene at a time in your past that might help your current situation.

Thanks for sharing! I think i just might try this tonight!

[edit on 4-3-2009 by xynephadyn]

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
I don't fully understand why I can't see all 6 winning numbers. Is there such a thing as psychic traffic?

Sort of. For lack of a better word, and in accordance with one way of modeling it, there is so-called "noise". In hands-on psychic terms, this is why you can get a doubleblind set of numbers and generally have a more vivid experience if it's on another planet, or in the future, or on something of serious import to the tasker/self/in realtime, than a target in the past, such as something you have a photograph for feedback on. There's a few theories but most amount to, the more consciousness interacts with something, the more noise (think white-noise here, or bits and pieces of 'everything else') is associated. Small targets such as things around your house are likely to have a lot more noise as well.

If the viewing is just-for-you then it's just something to be aware of; there'll be more data in the session that is inaccurate/offtarget than usual. If the viewing is for posterity in some fashion then you'd want to work whatever had the least noise possible.

Sometimes part of the problem is memory, particularly if you're working frontloaded and especially if you're working in a forced-choice model (which numbers would be). Psi is not always a strong reception and memory (as well as imagination) can be louder. Maybe you might consider choosing a lottery a month away and doing a few sessions on each number each week? I don't know if that'd help--probably depends on the person--just as an idea, then you'd have less going on at any given time toward that target. Seems like if you can do 4, you can do 6 -- although the belief system issue I mentioned previously may be kicking in here!

Best,
PJ

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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
No offence meant but I'll start believing when someone shows me a modicum of proof. I won't be holding my breath.


No offense taken. The purpose of this thread is to produce the very proof you seek. I intend to keep this thread alive with The Map through the year 2010, so we can all see how accurate (or inaccurate) I am. Based on my prior experience, I'd say I'm very accurate; but, of course, I realize that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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Well, you've got my attention for one! At last someone making one of these predictions who doesn't sulk or throw insults around when you question their abilities. You are a rare creature indeed. . .
Extraordinary claims do require extraordinary proof, I just hope, in this case, that you're wrong. But then again, I would say that living in the UK!
And as for being able to predict four numbers in the lottery! Perhaps you could start a thread where you predict the lottery numbers days before they are called? Now that would be interesting, and while I find it difficult to believe in this kind of prediction I almost certainly would use them on my lottery ticket.
"I may not be a believer but I'm not willing to take the chance!!"

I'm re-posting The Map (now that it's moved it to the ATS Media Portal):

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Also, the hairs have been standing up on my neck for the past few weeks as the Chinese Navy has repeatedly challenged other navies in the eastern Indian Ocean. Remember, those three red zones on the map are tactical nuke strikes, and China is the culprit — although they will insist that the multiple strikes are a mistake.

— Doc Velocity

Well I live in London and I have Family in Morocco, UK and France, so I hope nothing happens in all three places at once. Nightmare.

p.s You on the east coast in the USA right doc?


[edit on 16-3-2009 by _Phoenix_]

Yes, East Coast of the North American Continent. Although I live in the Appalachian Mountains (arguably the oldest mountain range on Earth), I'm only about 100 miles from the Atlantic, sitting on this continental shelf that is going to slide off into the abyss in about 150 years. Make no mistake, the imminent seismic cataclysm off the coast of North Carolina is quite probably going to hurl out enough energy to obliterate coastlines all around the Atlantic. When that continental shelf slips in about a century and a half, well... The world is going to be a very, very different place.

This brings up a question — I've gotten a few PMs — about how I can view through my own eyes hundreds of years into the future. I mean, how can I see 500 years into the future, unless I live to an age of 500 or more?

Hey, it's the Twenty-First Century. Anything is possible. I think I might live to be a thousand years old. Why not?

Originally posted by Doc Velocity


Hey, it's the Twenty-First Century. Anything is possible. I think I might live to be a thousand years old. Why not?

I agree, I'm suprised scientists haven't figured it out yet, but I know it's a very complicated subject, how the body is damaged (aging)

I think the only thing that would stop us being able to live longer is goverment and rules.

People think we would be bored living so long, I disagree. Humans have an endless curiosity, and endless imagination, old people always talk about their past, how they could have done things differently etc.

In my opinion thats the urge of their endless curiosity and imagination at play, if they had the chance to become young again and experience the endless future possibilites, to learn more, to experience more, the new future inventions, findings etc, I think a lot would jump for that chance.

If goverment let this out and that we survive long enough, then I'll see ya in a 100 years haha.



[edit on 16-3-2009 by _Phoenix_]

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I've had a few dreams come true during the course of my life, but would not come close to calling myself a seer. But i know where you are coming from with the visions.

I also had one particular dream that repeated itself every couple of days for about two years. That was when i was 12. The same dream started again when i was 16. This time it stopped when i was 19. It started again when i was 24 and i still have it every so often. I'm 38 now. The dream was always the same, same places, same situation, and the only faces i recognized was mine and my brothers. With the world falling apart like it is it makes me wonder if it will come true. In my dream the world has gone to sh*t and we are fighting for survival.

As far as your map goes, i can understand the nukes, and the grey area over western Europe, but there is nothing of any real import in that region of Africa. Perhaps it's viral in nature?



[edit on 24-3-2009 by Anuubis]

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Couple of years ago, I was employing a kind of home-brew remote viewing technique — one that has startled even me with its prophetic accuracy on more than one occasion — and in the course of the viewing I was "shown" the following map when I inquired about the year 2010:

Thanks for sharing, this is good information to know, I wonder if you saw our current timeline or a variant.