Racist Violence Mars Australia Day Celebrations

reply to post by resistancia


Yes it was and I believe some might have copped a punch and now they are going to tone it down next year locals only.
by the way this place is called Repentence Creek.
How about that the cops are still looking for them they will get them eventually.

Originally posted by Jacob08

Originally posted by vox2442
I'm a Canadian ex-pat living in Japan.

Are you sure your not the same ex-Canadian who has already regaled us with their stories and who has also traveled (or your friend in this case) to every country in the world but never one as bad as Australia. Whose first post in these forums with your other account was in this thread...

I'm positive that's not me. I have one account: this one. All I've ever had.

I'm also a Canadian, not an ex Canadian.

Oh, and my own experiences in Australia were positive, overall.

I've seen numerous comments about australians being ignorant, racist, drunken people. But quite simple it is because of how some people were brought up. If a childs parents are racist and they grew up in a racist immoral home they are most probably going to be just like their family. We have people like this all over the world. I don't condone what occurred I don't condone violence at all, but when we start talking about the history of countries, and ignorant police and all that crap. Your the ones who begin to be ignorant for even making comments like that. I say what the youths need is discipline. Do people not smack their kids anymore?

welcome....to the desert of the real...

Okay, so this thread has gone on a while now, and it's most likely no one will read my two cents worth but here goes.

I have noticed earlier in the thread that a lot of posters are referring to Australians as a race? Australians are not a race, we are a CULTURE combined of many different races.

"We are one, but we are many, and from all the lands on Earth we come".

I have met so many different people from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds, and I strongly believe that the problem here is not immigration, but assimilation and the segregation of many different cultures which make up this beautiful land of ours.
I'm not saying that people can't be proud of who they are, or where they come from, but I believe a lot of the tension arises when immigrants refuse to assimilate into the Australian culture (eg: refuse to learn english). It really pisses a lot of Aussies off and offends them! I understand that many immigrants flee their countries because of war/ poverty etc. and we are definately happy to have you here, but you should make an effort to adapt to the country you migrate to!

Heck, I'm a first geno Aussie myself, with my Dad migrating from Finland and my Mum migrating from Ireland! But their families assimilated no worries, and they are some of the most Australian people I have known

I have also noticed that certain races (and cultures) migrate a lot easier into Australia than others.



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I was thinking of shifting to Australia.
But this news is depressing.

I am cosmopolitan and dont subcribe to racism in any form.
I thought that Australia would be a good place to bring up my children (right now just one)

Wherever i have been, i have seen one or the other sort of bias.
In the middle east, in India (where i am from), in Europe, In both the americas.

I am not that interested to settle in india again because of the growing Hindutva mentality and back to hindu values movements. I am a christian and have faced bigotry many times in india itself.
When i was in Europe, i had run ins with the skinheads.
In the Middle east, some arabs are more extreme than the skinheads, but it is on a religious bais.

I wanted to shift to a place where such bias and bigotry is less. Australia and New Zealand were/are good options.

Now, second Thoughts!!!


Take me as an equal. treat me as an Equal.
If any show me any sort of Bias, they earn my contempt.
If they treat me equal, they are my friends!


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Don't judge all Australians on what a group of a few d!ckheads did.
If you are willing to move to Australia and embrace the Australian culture, I suggest moving to a smaller, nicer city, and not to Sydney. You will find racism no matter where you go, from all sorts of people, not just whites, but if you can be the great person you sound like you are, then I guarantee you will be given a fair go

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Originally posted by coredrill
I was thinking of shifting to Australia.
But this news is depressing.

I am cosmopolitan and dont subcribe to racism in any form.
I thought that Australia would be a good place to bring up my son.

Now, second Thoughts!!!

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then you are letting yourself be blinded by the ignorant people who blame a whole country on the actions of a MINORITY group of un-australian idiots in one part of one city.

Australia is what *YOU* make of it.
walk around with a negative attitude to our country and our country will give a negative attitude right back at you.
embrace our country and all its people from all walks of life, and they will welcome and embrace you back.


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Amen to that Obliv! I second his comment wholeheartedly coredrill.

Do not let the actions of a few idiots mar your perception of our beautiful country. We have much to offer and give it willingly if you are prepared to embrace us as friends.

Originally posted by Obliv_au
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walk around with a negative attitude to our country and our country will give a negative attitude right back at you.
embrace our country and all its people from all walks of life, and they will welcome and embrace you back.

Thats the same philosophy i practise on a personal basis.

Take me as an Equal, Treat Me as an Equal.
If they show bias towards me, I give them the same back @them.

Thanks for the postive outlook!!

Originally posted by vox2442
Just got off the phone with a friend in Sydney.

She's Japanese. Spent over two year saving her cash to take a long vacation in Australia. Left just before Christmas, was planning to stay on for three months, traveling and surfing and doing all the things Aussies do when they come to Japan.

In the days leading up to Australia Day and since, she's had "..off, we're full" screamed at her on the street numerous times, been pushed to the ground and told off (on Australia day), had a bottle chucked at her from a passing car (with the "we're full" comment tacked on), had drunk guys twice her size screaming obscenities at her, and finally had some fat Aussie chick spit at her this morning, with a comment that would get me red-flagged here for sure.

She's leaving. Going to Thailand as soon as she can get out, probably tomorrow. Doesn't feel like it's a safe place to be anymore.

She'll return to her job at the start of April, and I'm sure it will be the topic of quite a lot of conversation, both with her co workers and her customers.

She's a regional manager for the largest travel agency in Japan.

Way to go, Australia. Pure class.

Ironic that a Japanese person should act all moral and superior on immigration issues considering Japan has one of the tightest immigration policies for a developed nation.

Like Julie.... I ducked this.

But....


I am over Americans making judgements and anyone else that hasnt
sat back and drank a beer here.

YES we have racial problems.

Yes.. we have had them before.

Yes the before mentioned got with the program and
Yes... so will the rest.

The basic truth is this.

Everyone who comes here WANTS to come here.

Leave your *snip* behind.

Aussies WILL knock your belligerence out of you so dont complain.

You know the rules.

It IS simple.

If you dont like it... I'll shout you the trip to MASCOT AIRPORT !





Yeah I sound racist.. but guess what?

Maori's, Pakistan's, Indian's Pommies, Irish ( shouldn't have married into that )
and even some black guy I didn't ask (and he hasn't said) are all friends of mine.

And all live here.

Peacefully.

So all you that came to Aus for your $200 tour and had a bad weekend...... fine.
Dont come back.


DONT HANG YOUR TRASH ON MY COUNTRY.

God Forbid...... we could end up like the America's


Maybe you should take a good look at where you are at.


And LEAVE AUSTRALIA ALONE !!


We dont need you're help.

We can stuff it without you..


If I insulted you..... great...... wake up.

Australia did not bring down this economy..... The US did it all by themselves..


and take us ( albeit screaming) TO THE MAT WITH THEM.


Do not try to blame us for the racism here.

Learn the facts.

Then put yourself in the opposite corner...

and if you dont get it then try GLP


That is my last word.




DISGUSTED

Mungo


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This is Australia and if you don't like it you can leave cause we don't want people who aren't willing to accept our way of life.

Calling us all racist and red necks is ridiculous, as true Aussies have always been open to all cultures. Accept for those like the Lebanese in Sydney who enjoy all the benefits of our great land but then make the streets unwalkable at night with out fear of getting jumped or mugged or if your a girl packed raped because your skirts to short.

There were tons of brawls on Australia day none off them involving race accept for the ugly incident in Sydney where there is still a lot of bad blood over the Crunulla incident, which if you remember was sparked by an attack by a group of Lebanese on some life guards who were trying to protect some girls who were being physically and verbally harassed because thy we're wearing Bikinis.

So like I said we're Aussies we like to drink have BBQ's kick the footy and and every now and then we like to brawl. We're very laid back and friendly if you don't act like a wanker and piss us off.

And to all you Aussies who are so ashamed wake up to your selves, just cause some guys and girls had to much to drink and made fools of them selves is know reason to hang your head.

This is Australia
Aussie Pride

Originally posted by primal
This is Australia and if you don't like it you can leave cause we don't want people who aren't willing to accept our way of life.

Calling us all racist and red necks is ridiculous, as true Aussies have always been open to all cultures. Accept for those like the Lebanese in Sydney who enjoy all the benefits of our great land but then make the streets unwalkable at night with out fear of getting jumped or mugged or if your a girl packed raped because your skirts to short.

There were tons of brawls on Australia day none off them involving race accept for the ugly incident in Sydney where there is still a lot of bad blood over the Crunulla incident, which if you remember was sparked by an attack by a group of Lebanese on some life guards who were trying to protect some girls who were being physically and verbally harassed because thy we're wearing Bikinis.






And when we "Brawl" we pick the other off the ground.....

And go and have a beer and a laugh.

Dont believe me?


Mungo



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If your seriously considering moving to Australia then there's no better place than the Gold Coast or Sunshine Coast. That's if you enjoy good beaches friendly people and an awesome and affordable lifestyle.

Originally posted by primal
If your seriously considering moving to Australia then there's no better place than the Gold Coast or Sunshine Coast. That's if you enjoy good beaches friendly people and an awesome and affordable lifestyle.

ya forgot "toolies"

Originally posted by mungodave

Originally posted by primal
If your seriously considering moving to Australia then there's no better place than the Gold Coast or Sunshine Coast. That's if you enjoy good beaches friendly people and an awesome and affordable lifestyle.

ya forgot "toolies"

Yeah I forgot about those little buggers schoolies, toolies and droolies.
The whole festivals out of control we didn't have schoolies when I was a kid we just left school and got jobs.

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Forgiven my friend.



Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

Mungo