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Originally posted by sizzle
I haven't posted anything in awhile, have just been sitting back and reading. But this thread seemed to bring out feelings that I share with a great number of post-ers here.
I have said to anyone that would listen, that there is something about Obama that worries me. I cannot really put a finger on it. It's just a feeling of terrible uneasiness.
I do not claim ANY specific party ties. I vote for the person that seems to be the best choice for our nation and it's ideals. Please do not call me a sore loser. I really did not care that much for McCain, either. And I have been more than a little disappointed in former Prez Bush.
I am not a racist. I believe that persons of color, have just as much right to hold office in this country, as anyone. But I would never feel good about Obama.
Originally posted by sizzle
English Language 101: The english language is one of the most difficult to learn, due to it's many adjectives (words that mean the same thing).
[edit on 29-1-2009 by sizzle]
Originally posted by orderedchaos
SCHOOL MAKES STUDENTS PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO
FLAG WITH HUGE PROJECTED IMAGE OF
BARRACK OBAMA
Several disturbing stories have come to our attention over the past weeks and days that further highlight how sections of the American population have elevated Barack Obama to a dangerously inflated “messianic” status normally only associated with Royalty or totalitarian leaders. Perhaps the most insidious is to be found on the Tree of Liberty forum where a concerned parent from Las Vegas reveals that his 1st grader son has complained of having to pledge allegiance every day at school to a huge projected image of the new president. The post reads: My son, who is in 1st grade, came home yesterday saying that he didn’t want to go back to school anymore. So I asked him why? He said that during the Pledge of Allegiance the teacher put up a large image of Obama next to the flag. I asked him if he was sure of this and I suggested to him that maybe the teacher just put up an 8×10 photo of the president. He said, “No, it is a large picture of Obama and when we are done Ms. **** turns off the image.” I also asked if they did this for Bush last year? He again said, “No.” This was my sons first day back to school since before Christmas, he was on a 5 week track break. My wife volunteers a couple of days each week with helping out with my sons teacher doing various duties. She said that she would come in early this morning to see what was going on. She just got back and reported that this was true and then some. She said she waited out in the pod area and could see inside 3 of the 5 class rooms in this section of school. She said that when the kids stand each teacher flips on the classroom overhead and a full body image of Obama, with six U.S. flags behind him, comes up about 4 feet away from the flag that hangs on the wall. She said that the image has Obama staring straight at you with no facial expressions, just a serious look. I asked my wife if Obama had his hand over his heart? She said that she was so taken aback by this that she didn’t see it. What is worse is she said that all of the kids in each class faced Obama instead of the flag that hangs in the corner. This is happening in the Clark County School District here in Las Vegas, Henderson area. The fervor with which Obama is being received by portions of the American public is reaching a frightening level. It has come to the point where the new president is literally being hailed as the anointed savior of humanity. We have flocks of celebrities encouraging Americans to “pledge service” to Obama, a disturbing notion given the fact that Obama has promised to found a “national civilian security force” and institute forms of compulsory community service for all Americans. It is one thing for naive adults to buy into such groupthink, but to also subject young children to this, a mentality akin to the desperate prole worship of Big Brother in George Orwell’s 1984, is profoundly foreboding for any so called free society.
www.prisonplanet.com...
Is Barack Hussein Obama an antichrist? We know that the Antichrist as a governing beast is spoken of in Revelation, chapter 13. As we study that chapter, we find that even though the Antichrist is a beast, he has the number of a man, and his number is 666. Thus, numbers are important indicators of the Antichrist and of antichrist activity. Here let it be noted that Obama claims Hawaii as his birthplace, although he has never proved that. Using his claim, however, we find some very interesting numbers. We know that Satan told Almighty God in Job 1:7 that he had come from walking to and fro in the earth, and walking up and down in it. To and fro would indicate latitude, and up and down would indicate longitude. The latitude of the claimed birthplace of Obama in Hawaii is 21.6. Those three digits that make up 21.6 are significant because the number 216 is the number 6 cubed, or 6x6x6=216. Obama was born on August 4th, 1961, which is the 216th day of the year, another 666. We also know that Obama’s office in Chicago, Illinois, had an interesting zip code: 60606. In the ancient Babylonian numbering system of letters having numerical equivalents increasing by six for each letter, we find that the words “A messiah Barack” equal 666. We also know from Revelation, chapters 7 and 14, that the number 144,000 represents the people of Almighty God. It is the Antichrist that tries to divide them. If we divide the number 144,000 by 666, we find an amazing quotient of 216.216216. If we divide 144,000 by 216 we get the number 666.666666. We must also remember that Obama’s claim of birth in Hawaii is further revealing, because Hawaii is in the Pacific Ocean. The word Pacific means “peace”, and the Scripture says that the antichrist will come as a man of peace. We also know that the metaphoric meaning of the word Hawaii comes from “Ha” (breath of life), and “Wai” (fresh water). Thus, in metaphor it means “the water of life.” The extra letter “I” would then indicate, “I am the water of life.” This is a title that belongs only to the Lord Jesus and not to Barack Obama. Obama is also connected with Kenya, which is no doubt his real place of birth. The word Kenya is actually a feminine word pronounced “Keen-ya,” and it refers in feminine usage to the “cradle of mankind” in the native Kikuyu language. The literal meaning of the word Kenya is “the abode of the gods.” Even Obama’s political roots in Illinois are significant because the word Illinois is an Algonquin word which means, “Tribe of superior men,” or In other words, the master race. There is much more that could be said!
Originally posted by memyself
To sezsue:
Prince Charles as Antichrist? Must be an elaborate joke! What importance does he have in world politics? It seems that he is mostly mentioned in scandalous newspaper reports … Is this an attempt to deviate attention from Maitreya being 666 (or one of them who are)?
Ramifications in His Name CHARLES m English, French From the Germanic name Karl, which was derived from a Germanic word which meant "man". (source: behindthename.com) "...for it is the number of a man..." (Rev. 13:18) Prince Charles of Wales = 666 - transmuting Hebrew/Greek numbering onto the English alphabet. "...and his number is Six hundred threescore [60] and six." (Rev. 13:18.) "charles" spelled in Greek, comes on page 667 of Thayer's New Testament Lexicon, just one page after 666. The word just before it is: 5487 charitoo - 1. to make graceful i.e. charming, lovely, agreeable. 2. to pursue with grace, compass with favor; to honor with blessings. The (only) word on page 666 of Thayer's is 5485 charis - grace This is the cardinal word for the core concept of Christianity: grace. Clearly an opposite meaning from that of the beast. The first definition on page 665, the page immediately before 666, is: 5480 charagma - a. a stamp, an imprinted mark: of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of Antichrist. The word just after that (quoting from Zodhiates) is: 5481 charakter - (characteros, masc. noun from charasso (n.g., see charagma [5480]), to carve. The -ter suffix signifies agency, hence the word originally denoted an engraver or engraving tool. Agency is the prime principle of freedom, which it the antithesis of the mark of the beast, which is centered in coercion. For what it's worth, on the day (March 19, 2002) I linked to this study on Charles from the 666 index at Greater Things, at around 11:30 am, the FastCounter page visitor counter read: 66669.
Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
no one ever said maitreya was a christian concept i think your logic is a bit weird my friend. it is the concept of maitreya being the embodiment of all religions that would cause christians to be concerned for that is their anti-christ, someone who attempts to be saviour to the world ex: of all religions. im sorry but your reasoning is extremely flawed.
Eventually the time will come for Maitreya to appear as the fifth universal Buddha of this world age and turn the wheel of dharma for the benefit of all. This will come about in the following manner. In the future, because of the growth of delusion, the beings living in this world will degenerate. Their lifespan will decrease and be filled with much suffering. When the human life expectancy has shortened to only ten years, Maitreya will mnanifest in the form of a great spiritual leader and demonstrate the path of virtue. He will particularly spread the teachings on loving kindness and, as a result, the fortune of the beings in this world will begin to change. As they gradually give up their deluded attitudes and harmful behaviour, their lifespan will increase. After a great many ages the life expectancy of humans will grow enormously and then slowly decrease again until the human lifespan is about a hundred years. According to the prophesies of all the Buddhas and his own promise, this will be the time when Maitreya Buddha will appear in this world as a universal teacher.
His father will be called The Great Compassion Brahmin (Tramze Tsang rab) and his mother The Youthful-lookinig One (Tsang Denma). Maitreya will be born from her side as she stands in a forest garden, and the great celestial kin INdra will receive the new born buddha with great deviotion. Immediately the baby Maitreya will take seven steps in each of the four directions, and on each spot that he places his feet, a treasure of lotuses wil bloom. Then he will declare, "I am the unsurpassed saviour of the world and have come to liberate all beings from their suffering. This will be my last rebirth; there will be no further reincarnations for me." Upon hearing this, all the exalted beings and spirits of the world will rejoice, performing many acts of purification and presenting magnificent offerings to him. His proud father will then take him around the city so that the citizens can also rejoice at their new treasure. Beautiful goddesses will offer him flowers and the great sages will predict that in that very life he will become a fully enlightened Buddha.
Thereafter he will follow the life of a royal prince. When the time comes for him to be educated, Maitreya will be the foremost of four thousand and eighty students and when it is time to marry, Maitreya will have many wives with whom he will live for many years. Then a great religious festival of Brahmins will take place in his kingdom. During this festival, Maitreya will demonstrate that he has come to realise the impermanent nature of phenomena and, seeing the examples of ascetic monks, will declare his renunciation of cyclic existence and his intention to leave his royal surroundings and follow the religious way of life. This decision will so greatly shock those around him that the whole palace and all his wives will fly up into space.
Buddha Prophesized about Jesus (Yeshua) Buddha's Date of Birth: approx. 563 Before Christ (BC) Text
Originally posted by sezsue
It sounds like you are a follower of Buddah,
...if so, by the Buddah's own words, he doesn't say look for the Buddah-Maitreya,
...he says look for a holy one, he describes Jesus.....Buddah was born about 563 BC (Before Christ)
See what he says:
Buddha Prophesized about Jesus (Yeshua) Buddha's Date of Birth: approx. 563 Before Christ (BC) Text
It wouldn't let me copy from the article, it looked like the pages were scanned, so following is the link
bibleprobe.com...
Originally posted by creatrix
Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
no one ever said maitreya was a christian concept i think your logic is a bit weird my friend. it is the concept of maitreya being the embodiment of all religions that would cause christians to be concerned for that is their anti-christ, someone who attempts to be saviour to the world ex: of all religions. im sorry but your reasoning is extremely flawed.
My reasoning is flawed? Tsk.
Daer, who says that Maitreya is the "embodiment of all religions"? It sure isn't the Buddhists. Please make certain you get your information from the source and not a Christian interpretation. Find out what the real story is first. That is not the myth or legend, (take your pick), or how the prophecy is written.
Maitreya is supposed to attain enlightment and teach others how to also. And even saving some of them! Some may see him as a Saviour of the world, but so what?
Does christianity seriously only have room for one enlightened teacher on this Earth? The Christian saviour, Jesus Christ, can be the only one? Don't you see the fundamental problems and hypocrisy of this kind of thinking? That is such a small-minded and prejudical interpretation of Christian doctrine if I have ever heard one. I think Jesus Christ would be embarrassed.
Christians have nothing to worry about. There will be plenty of people to save for your Messiah, too. Obviously, Buddhism is not for everyone...but then again, neither is Christianity. Everyone has their own path, and not a single one above all the rest, is the perfect path for all.
You may feel justified calling another religion's Saviour "false" or "the anit-christ" but your peculiar brand of logic just reveals you as a religious intolerent and not a pious or educated Christian.
"Who is Maitreya?
He has been expected for generations by all of the major religions. Christians know him as the Christ, and expect his imminent return. Jews await him as the Messiah; Hindus look for the coming of Krishna; Buddhists expect him as Maitreya Buddha; and Muslims anticipate the Imam Mahdi or Messiah.
MaitreyaAlthough the names are different, many believe that they all refer to the same individual: the World Teacher, whose personal name is Maitreya (pronounced my-tray-ah)."