Keep Your Eyes To The Sky! (open letter to ATS members)

reply to post by Pockets


Yep just Venus.... Watching it move across my window as we speak - Always fascinated

reply to post by Phage


Do you know how long Venus will be visible?!
I look forward to seeing most every night.
Even when it's cloudy out it still seems to cut
right through.

Good post Cluckerspud.
I watch the sky a lot myself I do shift work and always make a point to go outside and look at the sky and also when I am at home I go out for a few minutes at least 2 or 3 times a night. I have seen some pretty cool stuff including the moon ring you were talking about. One night I saw 2 white lights, like on an airplanes wings, looked about the size of a medium altitude jet. Except the lights were moving end to end it went from straight over my head to out of sight in around 5 to 8 seconds, I have no clue what this was I have seen literally hundreds of satellites and other stuff, so I can say for sure whatever it was it wasn't normal.
I always say, look at the sky long enough and eventually you will see something that you can't explain or is just plain cool.

reply to post by cluckerspud


*waves arm (boots Stellarium)*

Venus will disappear from the evening sky in mid March.
She'll start being visible before dawn in early April.

reply to post by cluckerspud
Many thanks for your post.

That ring around the moon has always been one of the things I delight in seeing. I usually spot it a couple of times a year, mostly in the winter months.

Even as a child back in the 60's I used to watch the night skies, and on good nights I was able to spot passing (artificial) satellites and time their orbits. There weren't so many in those days and back then, we still had a sense of wonder that they were up there... It's only very rarely in the past 4 decades or so that I have seen "inexplicable" sights but those few occasions have remained with me.

reply to post by Phage

Thanks you also for your reply and the link; you saved me asking for more information about the "HP" designation. Much appreciated!

Mike

I saw one about 4 years ago.
It was truly beautiful to see the ring around the moon.

Are the concepts of Gates, Orbs and planes of a second dimension like that of the subconscious mind? Can these concepts be effectively transcribed into words? Why not? Would it be necessary in the first place? What did Thomas Edison use as his template to 'discovery'?

Were 'animals' so endowed with this template? Does evolution have an answer for this or is mankind itself 'parcel' to that of divinity itself?

How can a being such as an animal have knowledge of the 'purpose' and 'function' of the Laws in the Universe if it lacks the inherent intellectual capacity for the law's and Laws' interpretation? Has humanity alone? not interpreted self-evident truths to natural laws and their meaning in the hidden realms of dimensions?

Can truth itself be equated or proofed to a Numerical system in theory? Everything in 'our' Universe seems to moderate within a positive/negative relationship? Is their a golden mean or golden ratio to everything in the Universe? Does the word Chi make sense here or is it too abstract a concept to put into words. Is their one definition or many to the 'whole'? Are words even necessary? They didn't used to be to determine what is 'real' and what is perceived as such. Can one's 'instinct' be defined? I'd like to 'hear' it.

Can one have faith in the ability to effectively explain 'any' experience such as to taste, to hear, to smell, to feel, to see as well as to sense......to another? Words themselves seem to obstruct the path to knowing the experience of another. Empirical knowledge is helpful though can never alone define truth unto another. Without a template of reason and the willingness of one to trust their own instinct, I suppose it's impossible to know anything as it IS. Is 'something' to us as we are to that something we are comparing ourselves to? Can anything be defined without inclusion of the other.

What is One?



[edit on 24-1-2009 by Perseus Apex]

i had a post on ats called machine in the mountain but all i had were my words an what i had seen was almost like their was something behind the moon like offset ? Sound familiar ?

Originally posted by Pockets
I'm from the north east of England and have been watching the sky, and every couple of nights there is a quite bright light in the sky that moves east to west and I would like to know what it is, I don't know if it's a star a planet or what but it's the brightest light in the sky, I've used my binoculars to look at it but they are not much good, I'm thinking of getting myself a telescope but don't know much about them and don't wanna pay over the top prices, help from fellow ATS members would be nice on the light and telescopes

Apparently yours turned out to be a planet, but sometimes lights that move this way are satellites. I was out on a very remote island for many years, (Johnston Atoll) and often lay on the beach at night just watching the stars and such, and out there, you could very clearly see satellites running a very deliberate path across the sky. At first I thought they were UFO's (well for me they were, but I thought they might be aliens) until a friend of mine came to watch once and identified them immediately. (Space nerds they spoil all the fun)

One would have thought that in such a remote place one might see aliens, but alas, I never did see anything that could not be explained by satellites or meteors.

Originally posted by Perseus Apex

How can a being such as an animal have knowledge of the 'purpose' and 'function' of the Laws in the Universe if it lacks the inherent intellectual capacity for the law's and Laws' interpretation? Has humanity alone?

I am pretty sure my cat has knowledge of "purpose" and "function" and the Laws of the Universe. His laws are just different than mine. The Law of the Universe for him is that my purpose is to bring him treats and toys. And the function of all things is to please him or die a horrible death.

Hmm, oddly enough, that is not so different from the way humans view the natural world after all, now that I think of it.

I wonder if we are not just self serving in assuming that "we" know the Law, and "they" dont. And, I wonder how much of the Law is really Law, and how much is our own self serving interpretation. And, I wonder to what degree we could ever free our self of the architecture of the mind and its own propensity to "self serve" so that we could ever know. Our very definition of "intelligence" is suspect, as it measures all things against our own thinking as a species. If it is like ours, it is intelligent. Not the most objective model, really.

Interesting post. I just hope if an alien species ever arrives on Earth they do NOT have our brand of intelligence. Or the intelligence of my cat. If so, we are in big trouble.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Were you downwinded? 'All clear' now?

Did the Dept. of Entropy oblige you?

How about that Alternative Energy?

reply to post by cluckerspud


Clucker,

thanks for the message to all, if everyone would take a few mins to look up at the sky with camera in hand a few days a week, we will find something, if not verifiable truth then one individual will be a believer or have them think outside of the box for once.

liked the letter, keep it up! keep lookin up!

(saw my first UFO in December of 2008 in Florida, from there on out, ive always been looking up a lot more, people WILL open up their eyes... eventually)

reply to post by Perseus Apex


I understand the references to downwind, and, all clear, and even the DOE, but what did alternative energy refer to?

Late last night around 1:45 am i was looking outside by bedroom
window checking out the deer coming down the street.

Just then i noticed this object in the sky coming towards my house.

All lit up in the sky. As soon it got closer i could make out it shape
by the lights on the object.

The lights made a diamond shape with two lights in the middle
which were blinking. I called the airport and there was no flights
departing at that time.

The city i live in has a air national guard. But, would they be flying
that late of night. Ive seen jet fighters and cargo planes but nothing
like i saw last night.

Anybody have a idea what i saw?

The lights were so bright unlike a commercial airliner.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Alt. Energy was hot, now-it-not. Is it really on the agenda of the TPTB and DOE or more smoke in mirrors? Either way, objective analysts believe the supply/demand of future oil prices will remain out of sync with one another with the result of a rise in price/value of the commodities themselves for at least 10 years time till alternative energy begins to take over in mass.

Commodities are expected to be trading at a premium with future inflation waning demand for dollar denominated assets. The rise in price levels of the commodities as a whole may partially make up for the drop in the value of the currencies their priced in.

Then again, how much can one rely on a market system of which has been manipulated/engineered to the End of the few of who it benefits? Only true oversight, accountability and transparency can restore any faith in the Sys-tem.

Seems like a mass consolidation of the world's assets into the hands of a few for pennies on the dollar and at taxpayer expense is ahead of schedule after all, though is on a much grander scale than the first Depression; only now their are over 6 Billion people scraping for there share of the Earth's resources. Net, too many people chasing too few resources. This is ultimately bullish for commodities in general such as metals, minerals and foodstuffs and bearish for the survival of Billions in population.

As in a casino, the House usually comes out the victor paid for though not owned by the citizens or 'subjects' themselves.

Good day all....out here.


[edit on 24-1-2009 by Perseus Apex]

To all regarding the bright star in the UK, it is jupiter not venus.

reply to post by Merkabah


Jupiter is almost exactly in line with the Sun (on the far side) at the moment. It is not visible any longer. Venus is the bright planet in the western sky.

[edit on 1/24/2009 by Phage]

Excellent Thread!

kudos to the OP, starred.

I have to agree, theres so much wonder all around us, and we still keep looking past it for somthing else,

and I understand,
I remember my first and only E.T. observation, two large orbs, hovering across the sky, one stopping behind a small cloud while another came from high above then both proceeding off into the horizon at high speed. breathtaking,

but no less breathtaking than when I first got my 8" reflector telescope,

put it together, and went out on a cold winters night, the sky was still and clear!
2003 the best year in 75yrs to see jupiter and saturn,

the moment I got it in the eyepeice and I saw a crisp sharp image of saturn and its razor sharp rings, it was an experiance of total awe.

jupiter, faint bands of colour covering its heavenly mass, pin pricks of sharp beautifill blue light was the apperance of its many moons dotted around it.



Never stop looking up and out, its beautifull and the heavenly cosmos is no less important than its otherworldly inhabitants it gave birth to.

Enjoy, as its ours to behold.




x





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[edit on 24-1-2009 by TrentReznor]

I to have seen the ring around the moon,

the first time i saw it was a year ago, there was a perfect ring around the moon, within the ring there was nothing but the moon, no clouds, nothing. but once outside the ring there was a ring of clouds. and those were the only clouds around. its hard to describe

and i saw another ring recently although it wasn't as spectacular

just the other day i saw what i believe is a satellite, it was as bright as jupiter was in the night sky but move across the sky a little faster than an airplane.

amazing stuff