"Bugs", Texas 1970 Bigfoot killer and C2CAM caller ousted

"Bugs", a frequent caller into the Coast to Coast AM radio show claimed to have killed and buried 2 bigfoot in the Texas panhandle in the 1970s. Nobody could figure out who "Bugs" was.

From Cryptomundo website: The twelve-year running saga of “Bugs” and the claim that the guy killed two Bigfoot and buried them may, thankfully, be near its end. We have discussed “Bugs” on Cryptomundo before, here, here, and here. from Wikipedia... “Bugs” - Aging farmer who has repeatedly told of his account of shooting and burying two Bigfoot creatures back in the 1970s in the Texas Panhandle, initially thinking they were bears. Bugs has mailed a map of the location of this “burial” to Art Bell, to be released to the public upon Bugs’ death. During his first appearance in 1996, Bugs said he had taken a dozen Polaroid photos of the creatures he would be willing to send to Art. None of the alleged photos have yet been made available. from Cryptomundo... Now, thanks to the blog The Regulator, the rather supposedly unbalanced soul behind “Bugs” has been outed. Ed Hale of Wellington, Texas, the alleged racist owner of Plains Radio, is the mysterious “Bugs.” Here’s how The Regulator gives the run-up to their Eureka moment: An astute Freeper posted a link to a very interesting YouTube video and wondered if the man called ‘Bugs’ that was being interviewed in the clip could possibly be the one and only Ed Hale. Before I had even listened to the clip, the name ‘Bugs’ definitely sounded familiar. You see, Ed’s photobucket account name is ‘bugshale’ and a little more googling finds some comments about Hillary Clinton and oddly, an ad where Ed is selling some western wear. After listening to about five minutes of the YouTube, I was convinced and shared with ZeN, and our two Ed Hale specialists neonzx and GreatGrey. They all agreed that it is definitely Ed. Since the “outing,” Ed Hale has semi-”confessed” on his radio program, saying that he was indeed the Art Bell call-in person who used the name “Bugs.” Besides admitting that he is “Bugs,” he has said the killing story is “true.” Evidence? Well, too bad, but it is gone. Hale says that federal agents showed up at his house, made him dig up the bodies, actually bones, and the remains were confiscated. They were spirited away and are being hidden by the government. Okay. We’ve all been here before.... "

Why is it that people continue to claim to have killed a bigfoot when they haven't? All that does is shine a negative light on cryptozoological reasearch. If somebody ever actually does discover a bigfoot or yeti,whatever, nobody is going to believe it. Anyways, just though you guys would apprecieate this story.

Oh, and by the way, Ed Hale is allegedly raceist and one of the founders of the "Obama isn't born in the US" stuff.

BTW, I'm not saying anything about the truth of this article, I didn't write it or really reasearch it, just wanted to point it out as I thought people might be interested. Personally, I do believe in a bigfoot-type creature and while I have heard Bugs on the air a few times, I tend to take a skeptics look at him, as he has so far failed to produce any hard evidence.

Incidently...I haven't figure out how to "post from external source" yet...
Thanks RFBurns for the explanation!

[edit on 23-1-2009 by JJRichey]


[edit on 23-1-2009 by JJRichey]

In the post reply page are a row of buttons at the top of the text box. From there you can post external source.

I dont dismiss the exsistance of bigfoot/sasquach.

What I dont get is why the wait..put out the darn photos. Or is it that something about them isnt quite true and he avoided ridicule?



Cheers!!!!

It's a shame if Bugs is just another attention seeker. I actually had some hope that Bug's story might be the real deal.

The story goes that Bugs seeked out the help of a lawyer because the bodies looked very human and hence he was worried he could technically be put on a murder charge so he was hanging off digging them up until he had assurances.

Obviously, the "G-Men came and stole them" story is a classic hoaxer M.O. Shame!

As far as hoaxers go in any esoteric field of research, you must understand that the advancement of knowledge and credibility isn't the hoaxers concern. It's all about themselves. They don't care if Cryptozoology, UFOlogy etc gets a bad name.

These hoaxer people are hollow inside and they need to constantly reassure themselves that they are smart, popular, liked, revered and so on. It doesn't matter if their confirmations come at the expense of a lie. So long as they keep feeding that sad little hole inside their lives where self respect used to reside.

We certainly need a classic hoaxes area of ATS where people can wise up and learn how to recognize a hoax. These people really need to be made an example of so the pay-off doesn't weigh favorably against the personal ridicule.

IRM

Steve Quayle reported that a museum in the south had the remains of a 8 or 9 foot tall mummy. He reported it on C2C, and several days after that, someone from the government showed up and took it away.

I do not think it is so far fetched as it sounds. (Not to say that the story of the killing is true).

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Do you think that Bigfoot and ancient giants bones could possibly threaten national security? What's your personal rationalization for hiding the evidence?

In your mind, why would they hide them from the public eye? I can't imagine there being religious implications given the bible speaks directly of giants. Therefore I can't foresee the public showing a sensitivity toward them.. more awe and wonder.

As far as Bigfoot is concerned, I can't see a sensitivity there either. Scientists have been searching for the missing link for a long time. Bigfoot may put an end to that mystery. Surely that's a good thing? We might as well hide the reality of apes and monkeys too!

IRM

[edit on 24/1/09 by InfaRedMan]

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We certainly need a classic hoaxes area of ATS where people can wise up and learn how to recognize a hoax. These people really need to be made an example of so the pay-off doesn't weigh favorably against the personal ridicule.

I thought there was already a classic hoaxes area of ATS....its located in the 'Predictions' forum. No one is ever right/accurate there and they get their a$$es handed to them regularly. They usually have a good following of believers until the date of the prediction comes and passes by without change. Then everyone suddenly disappears, only to show up in the next "real" prediction thread.

This cycle continues quite regularly. And that is a prediction you can count on.

I don’t know why this story bugs me.
I agree that the hoaxers ruin real research in these fields, It would be a shame if real photos of Bigfoot or a flying saucer came to light and people because of being burned in the past by hoaxers will just pass it by as yet another CGI or man in a ape suit ploy.

I was just on another thread chatting about how now a day’s anybody with Photoshop can come up with some realistic photos and any student and a high-powered video card and software can make some amazing videos all the time ruining it for real research.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Steve Quayle reported that a museum in the south had the remains of a 8 or 9 foot tall mummy. He reported it on C2C, and several days after that, someone from the government showed up and took it away.

I do not think it is so far fetched as it sounds. (Not to say that the story of the killing is true).

Art Bell and his show have their own share of credibility issues as well you know. I listen often but I know in my heart that it is more entertainment than anything. Art himself is well known to keep hoaxers in the game until the heat is way too high. He has been confronted and silent about his close friendships with some of the known hoaxers over time. I often felt this is the main reason for his constant retirements (cool down times.)

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
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I thought there was already a classic hoaxes area of ATS....its located in the 'Predictions' forum. No one is ever right/accurate there and they get their a$$es handed to them regularly.

That's quite funny! Thanks for the comic relief iamcamouflage!!

Still... I think a Classic Hoax forum would be a great inclusion for ATS. It's my personally belief that having the ability to spot a hoax is an important aspect of Denying Ignorance.

On topic, another charlatan in the field of cryptozoology or more accurately Bigfoot - is Tod Standing. I remember in 2007 when Art had him on C2C raving on about human rights for Bigfoot, he brought on Bugs in the final hour to talk about how he shot a couple and it completely freaked out Standing. It was a classic show, even if none of it was true.

It appears now that it may have been a hoaxer hoaxing a hoaxer.

Now that's Gold!

IRM

[edit on 24/1/09 by InfaRedMan]

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For twelve years the person who claimed to have killed a Bigfoot was pulling the leg of C2CAM. To him, it was a long joke. I would think most people would tire of the joke after a year.

I think cryptozoology researchers need the type of vetting procedures as the other paranormal researchers need. Too many cranks out there, and in the end it is the research that gets slammed in the end.