Love Is Oil You Need!

"Uh, Lupe said nobody in Iraq wants Saddam gone after I said we'll use the OIL $$$ to pay off the war and rebuild Iraq....get a clue by following each post in this thread"

Sorry but you are posting them so quickly as I was typing my reply to Lupe you were posting.


"cassini - Uh...we rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII as well as being the world's leader in giving aid around world. Yet you're calling us LIARS when we say we'll rebuild Iraq with the oil profits????"

1) what does the rebuilding of europe after the war have to do with me calling them liars?
2) Yes, Yes I am. I`m not calling the american citizens liars I`m calling your oil companies and Governments liars

", Lupe said nobody in Iraq wants Saddam gone" not really he just asked where the letters asking for your help are. and where are they? I`m sure they do want him gone but they are an independent people and may want to work this out for themselves.

Originally posted by Winston Smith
Can someone explain why you would not like your government to secure a reliable flow of a vital natural resource that is critical to the national economy?

We can make cars drive on air, heat our houses with electricity and when you think of the rumours that there exists a that produces enough electrical energy to supply the whole world of it!! In a clean way!!! (sunlight).... I'll look where I've read this 'rumour'.

"I`m sure they do want him gone but they are an independent people and may want to work this out for themselves. "

me too, my problem lies in our arrogance in that assumption, and the US governments ability to take that "assumption" and utalise it as a "fact" in order to disguise another adgenda.

It reaks of us telling people what they need and then charging them for it.

Not a good state of affirs in my book.

Have you ever been in a situation where you wanted somthing but the cost was too much so you didn't buy it?

I'd personally quite like to be freed from the Labour government at the moment, if you told me you'd do it but as it would cost you severaly billion dollars and I'd have to foot the bill out of my national reserves, and, while your at it, you'll have to carpet bomb London killing a fair number of my friends and family I'd probably decide it was worth putting up with him till a less "costly" solution comes along thankyou very much.

Lupe - Come back to this board after you get a Calender and some National Geographic magazines, so that you'll know what day things took place and where.

no problem, and you come back when you've bought a decent pair of glasses so you know which topic your posting in. I think you meant to put that in the other thread.

I have 20/20 vision and a higher IQ than you.

Originally posted by alienaddicted
We can make cars drive on air, heat our houses with electricity and when you think of the rumours that there exists a that produces enough electrical energy to supply the whole world of it!! In a clean way!!! (sunlight).... I'll look where I've read this 'rumour'.

Cars drive on air? They must be light, lots of plastic in the construction... how is the plastic made without oil? Wait a minute... you said cars drive on air... what is that?

How will all that new electricity be generated if we're using so much more for heat? We've already seen the summer month electricity shortages caused from increased need in air-conditioning.

How will sunlight provide the energy in climates where clouds prevail? (This doesn't take into account the current issue with not having an economically viable means to convert sunlight into electricity on a massive scale.)

And how will we suddenly convert the legacy of millions and millions of existing cars, trucks, and aircraft that rely on oil? Are there plans to convert this legacy of oil to your new air system?


It's very easy to "say" there are alternate fuels, it's very hard to convert a massive existing infrastructure.

thats nice dear.
tell me.

a: what's my IQ
b: what has either of our IQ's got to do with anything
c: how your IQ was tested
d: what you believe your score represents
e: why you feel the test was an effective test of what you believe it represents

I could do with a laugh.

Lupe - Just reading your drivel makes it all too clear.

Oh, did you even graduate from High School???

nope.
never went to high school.

nope.
never went to high school.

That explains everything....and I knew it from the start too.

I went to secondary school.
and then university.

Ok, whatever. The name of the university???? Degree(s)???

Originally posted by MT69
Ok, whatever. The name of the university???? Degree(s)???

Yup they definitly need a rolleyes here!

Roehampton In London.
and yes.
2.
Considered a masters but got offered a rather peachy job and decided I didn't need one, taking one next year.
There are people here with far less education and far more wit and insight, there are people here with more who exhibit less.
now. Do you have any more questions about my schooling or can we get back to the topic at hand?

THere is nothing wrong with capitalism; I'm a capitalist and proud of it. But like everything else, there are shades of gray - capitalism without morality or ethics is how you should qualify what you're against. We've a great system in the US, but this administration operates without morality or ethics.

NEWS:


"We're Going For Oil" --UK troops set to seize wells (UK) British troops will seize control of Iraq's oilfields under a secret invasion plan already agreed with America. A battleground blueprint has already been drawn up, the Daily Mirror has learned, with Britain earmarked to secure Saddam's fuel supplies and squash suggestions of a US "oil grab".

www.mirror.co.uk...

"Crude could hit 100 dollars with war on Iraq:OPEC founder"
The price of crude may soar to 100 dollars a barrel if Iraq sets oilfields ablaze in the event of a US-led war, leading to a global disaster, according to former Saudi oil minister Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani.

sg.news.yahoo.com...

Now follow me on this conspiracy: after the 1991 Gulf War, the company that was given the contract to go in put out fires and stabalize oil well production was Brown & Root, a division of Halliburton, a company that ended up appointing Dick Cheney top dog after he finished his government stint. I am of the mind that it was payola for the juicy multi-million dollar clean up contract that he was instrumental in throwing their way.
Fast forward to a war scenario as outlined by the OPEC founder. What company, based on their previous experience would be called in again? Also, based on an "emergency" situation in the world oil markets, what better justification can the Bush administration ask for to explain their usurping of Iraqi oil output?
They engineered the self fulfilling prophecy of allowing the 9/11 attacks leading to more control and less accountability of their administration and now they are poised to set that same mechanism in motion to justify a grab of the world's #2 Oil producer.

Roehampton???? Never heard of it, but I'm sure people in your country have heard and attended my alma mater.

Oh, the topic...the USA is evil??? Ok....

[Edited on 23-1-2003 by MT69]

Originally posted by Winston Smith
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Cars drive on air? They must be light, lots of plastic in the construction... how is the plastic made without oil? Wait a minute... you said cars drive on air... what is that?

It was on major news sites not so long ago. The model photographed was a yellow, minivan like car...

Originally posted by MT69
I have 20/20 vision and a higher IQ than you.

IQ is not an accurate description of intelligence. Hasn't been so for like 30 years...

www.encarta.com...

Thankyou Bout Time for trying to get this back on topic.
The USA and Europe are a lot better prepared than the last Gulf War even then Oil prices didn't rise anywhere near that much and this time the USA,Europe,and anyone with half a brain has been stockpiling oil for the last 6-9 months.The Mirror isn't a good newspaper to quote from.

Just want to make a couple of points before,hopefully, we can get back on topic.

Winston,You are correct in you assertion that it is one of a governments priorities to safeguard natural resources for it's people,However national security is a greater priority and if any land grab threaten the security of a country then that country is no longer acting in the interests of its people but is acting irresponsibley.

MT69,Most of us don't need to see Lupe's CV(sorry resume)to know he's smarter than you.

BTW.What is interesting is that nobody has denied that it is about oil now.The only two posters not to be outraged by a War for Oil have basically said"Why not?"
And yet all who support this war only Yesterday were actively denying that oil had any meaning in this conflict.

This was a big public relations foul-up by Colin Powell.Whether it has any relevence or not I don't know but Russia and China have openly voiced concern.I think it can safely be said that there will be no new resolution calling for military action.As a consequence I doubt Britain will be with the USA public opinion would allow it.SO......................Where does that leave us.