making a weapon enough to kill or knock out

id like to hope so but remember 9/11 no one ever expected America to get hit
i hope your right

reply to post by LeTan


i was thinking of staying at home while all this crisis is happening is that a good idea
and...theres no possible way of convincing the family to get supplies so idk what to do TBH

Since you don't want to kill unless needed, like MOST human beings, you could look up how to maker your own taser. Instructables.com had a good homemade taser using a 12V power supply and a 9V battery... You can make one to give 50,000volts.... It'll put them down...

And remember, it's not dangerous and no one, not one person, has died from being shocked by a taser. They may have had a heart attack at the time of the tasering but the taser didn't cause it...

There are other weapons on that website also... unless they've found it...


Rgds...

My best advice would be to get yourself down to Target or a sporting goods store, buy yourself a brand new Louisville Slugger...wooden or aluminum...both work great.


Spend roughly $30 and you have yourself a bonafide instrument of warfare. Take it home and learn to swing it like you mean it. Any thug that comes at you holding anything short of a fire arm is toast.

Also, buy yourself a baseball for around $2 and wherever you stash your bat also keep the ball near by. This is especially meant for if you drive, keep the bat and ball near one another, this way if the police start asking why you have a baseball bat in your car simply show him the ball.

"I like going to the park to hit the ball around in my free time, officer "......no laws broken and you have an excellent means of self defense. Knives are too close quarter and can be taken from you, guns are best obviously, but if not available a baseball bat will be your best friend.


$0.02

here's a link to a site that teaches you how to make and use various simple weapons, as well as other survival techniques:

www.ssrsi.org.../Bola

The bolo is an effective weapon that gives you the option of killing or stopping; several can be carried at once. For close personal defense use a straight-blade knife: they don't jam and don't need reloads, but be careful: don't play around, stick 'em once and kill 'em quick if you have to and throw up later. If facing them from the front, throat, heart, groin (aiming for the femoral artery, about four inches from the jewels to either side, holding the blade up and slicing up as you pull back); if facing the back aim for the kidneys, twisting the knife on the return stroke, alternatively a spinal cut will render them not worth worrying about. Preferably avoid conflict.

The best preparation is mental: use GoogleEarth to map out several routes from where you are if where you are is going to be untenable to where you need to get to. Think it through and map out at least three routes from here to there via car, bike, foot...each has different optimum route, a secondary route and an if all else fails route. If there are more than one of you set waypoints to meet if you get seperated. Never stay at a waypoint for more than a few hours at most: that's why you set multiple waypoints if you miss one, catch up at the next or the one after.

I live in socal and fortunately my home is a rally point: I'll make my stand here come what may; I've enough space and am remote enough for this place to be both defensible and self-supporting if things go extreme.

I'm a pretty pragmatic guy, a combat veteran, and not given to either over-optimism or pessismism, but I pay attention to what's happening around us and I don't like what I see. Extremely hard, difficult and dangerous times are upon us, not in some misty future, but now, within a few weeks or months, at the very most. I cannot possibly overstress the importance of preparing while you can, there isn't much time left.

Another tip: always make sure you can make fire.

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Replace baseball with cricket and then it'll work out nicely.

(he's Australian)

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Sorry....I guess you are right.


I was thinking more East St. Louis.


I still stand 100% by the quality of the advice though

reply to post by BlackOps719


Yep agreed

Good advice

reply to post by BlackOps719


thanks for the help everyone
but TBH theirs no hope for me to get the basics of food supplies

I agree with the suggestion of a club or bat, but be sure that you're reasonably able to keep a firm grip on it, especially in the midst of panic; it'll soon become a weapon against you if it slips from your hands.

Just about any room has something that could become a weapon when needed. Look around each room and try to locate things that might deal a injurious blow to an intruder. These need not be large objects and in fact, small objects with a pointed edge will work best. Do a bit of research into bodily pressure points (there are specific areas that can promptly disable anyone if hit with enough force and accuracy).

The most important weapon you have is your mind. A marauding gang is likely to be unruly and full of adrenaline, with little in the way of common sense. If you can maintain focus and relative calm, you'll have a good chance of outwitting them. Successfully combatting a gang without a gun will not be very likely, but you can outsmart them. Do you have an attic? If you do, practice getting in and out quietly and rapidly. A gang looking for possessions is not likely to think of an attic; if the door is relatively difficult to locate, all the better.

It is unlikely that chaos will erupt without a slow build. You should have a bit of warning beforehand that things are going to become unruly. When this happens, you need to either move out of the central area or move to a location with other like-minded individuals. This could be a friend's home, church, etc. This way, you have a group of known individuals to provide camaraderie and assistance. It is not in your best interest to hole up in your own home, unless you've invited several friends/family members to join you.

The likelihood is not very high of something happening on a par with apocalyptic films. I imagine the communal spirit will in fact surprise us if things become dire. Maybe I'm just too optimistic.

Break an old piece of glass into a blade shape wrap a piece of cloth around the end so you don't cut yourself... you've got a one time use stabbing instrument.

Pick up a piece of wood, you've got a club that will kill someone or at least knock them out with a few hits.

With some basic creativity you could rig up a steel pipe, a small punch for a firing pin, a spring, a hinge, and some sort of homemade trigger assembly and make yourself a single shot shotgun.

It really isn't that hard to make weapons.. use your imagination..

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Duct tape.

With duct tape you can take a kitchen knife and tape it to a bloom handle and you have a spear. Make 5 or 6 of them.
Broken window glass shards work good too.

Learn how to make a atladle (spear thrower) this will make a spear more powerful.

Bows are good but hard to make.

Crossbows are easier to make from a light car leaf spring.
www.survivalblog.com...

Even a wrist rocket sling shot will disable or kill someone if you know where to hit.
west.loadup.com...

All these weapons are silent and that is a plus in defending your self.

With any of these you can work up to a gun by taking out the person with the gun.

In a SitX criminals/gang members are fair game.
You are doing a public service by taking them out and then you have there weapons.

There are plenty of common daily instruments and tools that can be made into weapons of war. A sling shot is a heck of a weapon and its ammo is almost always available on the ground. Viewed mostly as a child's toy, it is often overlooked as a mostly non-lethal weapon (depending on the shot). Gardening tools are great weapons and can offer you some distance when used in polearm style fighting. Baseball bats, mop handles, pool cues (and pool balls), even those nice trinket necklaces on cord can be used offensively. Dont forget that you probably have several plates and saucers in your cupboard, which are disk projectiles that fly quite well and can cause non-lethal damage. If it came right down to live or die, dont forget to sacrifice the laptop or monitor on your desk.

There is a wealth of weaponry in your home. Look around at everything you and your family own. Open your mind to the worst case possibilities and you will see what an arsenal you have.

Finally, love you dog. A loyal dog will not only warn you that something or someone is nearing your house, but they will fight to their dying breath. I have 3 dogs. They bark at every single thing that moves within 20 feet of my house. I always know when there is someone near my property. My neighbors have even come to appreciate their absolute guardianship over our small area.

If you have the opportunity, you may also be able to pick up a sword, machete or various knives at a local pawn shop. In close quarters, they are invaluable. I have 21 swords, a battle axe, machete, a couple of knives adorning my home. They all have the capability of drawing blood and when the SHTF, they will go from decor and exercise to defense in a moment.

If you want non-lethal, just get a mace or stun-gun. Either can be bought by young adults (at least where I live, you should check to see if it's the same for your area).

For me, a walking stick would work. It can be lethal and non-leathal depending on how you use it, plus it's cheap, not-illegal, and can be used anywhere

400~ people have died as a direct result of being tasered...probably by induced heart attack (reverse defibrillation) rather than electrocution per se....but induced or caused by same nonetheless.

Hey Im not positive if this was mentioned but...

One of my favorites, that has been proved time and time again throughout history:

Molotov cocktails. Gas would most likely be used for other survival needs so under the sink chemicals can also be deemed credible if necessary. Cocktails are sufficient in offensive and defensive measures and have a nice damage radius. They are mobile and can be created in a short notice

Originally posted by piero
theres no possible way of getting a hatchet i was thinking a spear gun but parents would find it and go wtf

An alternative weapon is get a pump pressure sprayer and fill it
with habenero juices.

It is hotter than jalepeno by a long shot, and what is used in pepper
spray.

A quick sweep of this on ppl trying to get at you they will be blind
and screaming in pain, and it will not kill them.

If you do this I recommend a full face mask for you and anyone
else nearby you do not want to be in excrutiating pain.

You can back it up with something like a roofing hammer or ice axe.

A paintball gun with pellets filled with this juice would be nasty too.

Man anything can be a weapon a lead pipe, heavy chain, roll of nickels, brass knuckles, padlock in a sock. Just use your imagination. Whats wrong with a baseball bat?

Originally posted by DJMessiah
If you want non-lethal, just get a mace or stun-gun.

Clearly we're not talking about this "non-lethal" mace.

Saw this today. Hmmm...

Originally posted by piero
i don't live in cali i mean the crisis thats happening there sorry haha
but thanks for the info i live in Perth Australia by the way

Why on earth would things going bad in California affect you at all? Be more concerned about getting a train on the Armadale line after 7pm, I know I am.

And remember, it's still an offense to set any traps around your home or to attack anyone even on your property in WA. So think twice before you dismantle your victor mower..