Man refuses to drive 'No God' bus

reply to post by spellbound


This whole "bus-ad" thing was started by some Christian who thought all the "non-believers" should be told they will "burn in hell"!

The Atheist response was to tell people not to take things like that so seriously.

So YES....religion (christianity) DID start it!

If you check the whole story and read some of the other threads concerning it you would have known that.

And yes, it was done by an ignorant person like you said...but what made them do it?

[edit on 16/4/2009 by nerbot]

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Its not a viewpoint if the person contradicts themselves regarding other religions.

What about a Christian man refusing to drive a bus with an advert for a Mosque on it?

What about a Buddhist refusing to drive a bus with an advert for a Church on it?

What about an atheist refusing to drive a bus with God written on it?


Either you feel :

a) They are all wrong to refuse to do their duty

or

b) They are all able to freely express their wishes and refuse to drive the bus


Simple as that in my mind.

I choose A on principle. People can't just stick to extremes. There's always levels to something.

If the slogan said: Killing childrens is fun., then I would agree with the man., but for what he did is well.....just stupid. Especially during a recession when thousands of people would kill to have that job. Very selfish for a Christian if you ask me.

reply to post by nerbot


mea culpa! I did not read the whole thread, you are quite right. I hang my head in shame.

Who knows - an anti person, that is all I know.

Good for him...I would do the same in a heartbeat! I would rather scrub floors then drive a advertisement around saying there is no God...This is coming from someone that was a astrologer for over 30 years, had astral projections, done the crystal gazing, believed in reincarnation, involved in esoteric knowledge and dealt with demonic activity. So I am not some Sunday school church teacher.
I got NEWS for you...The spiritual world is a as real as me writing this posting and as real as you reading it.
I came back to my Christian Roots..Believe or not... but those that don't believe in God or Christ will have a very RUDE awakening on the other side. So keep running off at the mouth..Keep blaspheming Christ and God! I seriously pity you.






[edit on 19-4-2009 by Wideawake08]

reply to post by Wideawake08


Great post! You are so right.

What can I say to have a second line - you are so right! Need 8 more, now I can submit.

reply to post by Wideawake08


I have to ask - why did you come back to Jesus, and what do you believe in ultimately?

And did you find that those things were not true?

Originally posted by Wideawake08
I would rather scrub floors then drive a advertisement around saying there is no God...This is coming from someone that was a astrologer for over 30 years, had astral projections, done the crystal gazing, believed in reincarnation, involved in esoteric knowledge and dealt with demonic activity. So I am not some Sunday school church teacher.
[edit on 19-4-2009 by Wideawake08]

Then why did you omit the one IMPORTANT word from the atheist advertising phrase?

There "PROBABLY" is no god.....

reply to post by nerbot


Most determinations are based upon probabilities....

You omit that from your post.

Are you still mad that this fellow stood up for his beliefs?

Or are you mad about the basis of those beliefs?

Spot on with that

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[edit on 4/19/2009 by AshleyD]

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by nerbot

 

Most determinations are based upon probabilities....

Probably, but that doesn't make them right does it?

You omit that from your post.

See above

Are you still mad that this fellow stood up for his beliefs?

Was I "mad" in the first place?

Or are you mad about the basis of those beliefs?

His beliefs are none of my concern. This story interested me in the first place (months ago) because a: I found it amusing, and b: I have enjoyed combating the ignorance and reminding people what began this issue to start with which seems to get forgotten or missed by some posters who haven't read the whole thread or skipped to the last post.

If you didn't understand my reson for posting about the missing "probably" then you should read the original advertisements to understand.

Cheers.

I may believe that if I venture out I will be in mortal danger (Agoraphobia). Despite statistics that imply I am more likely to expire from an incident occurring inside my own home. What matters to me is my perception of the situation, and nothing else. If, as has been mentioned, the message said “Pedophilia is fun”, that might have induced some others to refuse to drive the bus. But possibly not all. A highly sensitive individual unable to read the poster would be unaware of it, and thus unaffected by whatever the message implied. Isn’t what separates the acceptable from the unacceptable, dependant on individual interpretation? Each constructs their own version of reality from the action of their experience upon incoming data. For most, that interpretation is recognized as being actual reality. Which they are then compelled to act upon, as though it were precise. In this man’s reality that message is totally unacceptable. But can I prove (for certain), that my reality is any better a match with the real thing?

When this campaign started, I e-mailed the Lady responsible for these adverts, and posed a few questions. She declined to respond. Perhaps she preferred not to have her interpretation of reality exposed to scrutiny.

Morals.

What do you sacrifice to keep yours and sleep well at night?

I’d rather sleep well and stand in an unemployment line than feel shame each and every single moment at work.

It’s nice to hear there are still people who will sacrifice the almighty dollar for what they believe in.

More power to him.

peace

Suppose it were possible to lay out for comparison, the contents of all of our individual brains. Would any pair be an exact match? If our minds are as individual as our physical appearance, doesn’t it follow that our response to the same situation would be likely to differ? The upshot being success or failure based entirely on the efficacy of the particular technique attempted. Rather than some abstract evaluation of the method itself. In other words, if the driver manages to alter the situation to accommodate his understanding of the matter, his interpretation is reinforced as correct. If, on the other hand, it resulted in (extreme exaggeration) his starving to death through loss of employment. That interpretation would perish with him. If a set of responses proves successful is it not likely that they will be adopted? However, does that imply that they are in any respect special?

Is truth more important than survival?

reply to post by LiquidMirage


I acknowledge his viewpoint, but I don't accept it. I still think his viewpoint is stupid, but I wouldn't, say, refuse to give him a vaccination that is based on evolution just because I disagree with him. I wouldn't refuse to go on his bus just because I know he's Christian.

Christians- and honestly many other religious people- never want to see or hear about anything they don't agree with. That's what the issue is.

They should all just go back to Vatican City if they only want to be around people they agree with. If they can advertise their spiritual idiocy, I can advertise my lack thereof. It's an even trade.

Should a meteorite lay waste to our civilization. Would survivors find succor in a resource that can be conjured up out of thin air? Or instead cling to an infrastructure laid waste? Without prior knowledge of what challenges are to be presented, isn’t the most prudent strategy maintenance of all available responses?

Should a meteorite lay waste to our civilization. Would survivors find succor in a resource that can be conjured up out of thin air? Or instead cling to an infrastructure laid waste? Without prior knowledge of what challenges are to be presented, isn’t the most prudent strategy maintenance of all available responses?

Originally posted by Wideawake08
Good for him...I would do the same in a heartbeat! I would rather scrub floors then drive a advertisement around saying there is no God...This is coming from someone that was a astrologer for over 30 years, had astral projections, done the crystal gazing, believed in reincarnation, involved in esoteric knowledge and dealt with demonic activity. So I am not some Sunday school church teacher.
I got NEWS for you...The spiritual world is a as real as me writing this posting and as real as you reading it.
I came back to my Christian Roots..Believe or not... but those that don't believe in God or Christ will have a very RUDE awakening on the other side. So keep running off at the mouth..Keep blaspheming Christ and God! I seriously pity you.

Which god?

There are thousands upon thousands of gods (and goddesses) to choose from - the god from the abrahamic mythologies is just one.

Do you just mindlessly beleive in 'Zeus sat around a chessboard' or Sobek the Egyptian crocodile god -if not,why not?

I think if anyone deseves pity its the conditioned,indoctrinated acolytes of organised religious cults who attempt to forcefully impose their non provable opinions on everybody else.

If we would all follow this gentalmens lead, this NWO thing would be toast in a few days...

This world is messed up in a really awkward way. If I think someone is in the room and I call him Bill I get taken to the nuthouse, but if I call him God, its suddenly ok and I am not crazy. Same idea, different name.

This man should have been fired on the spot. We live however in a Christian society in the west, and thus these people will get away with having sand in their vagina over something like an advertisement.

I am a proud atheist, but I will never enforce my beliefs on anybody. In my head, there is no god. That doesn't mean I'll complain because there's a bible in my house... If I did complain, it would almost be like not going to see someone's tombstone and pay my repsects because there's a cross. I accept everyone's viewpoints, but I don't see why they need to enforce on others? Everyone has a right to be believe whatever the hell they want to believe, no? I don't see how a slogan of a personal opinion should make this man not drive his bus.. He doesn't have to agree with it. I find it really, really stupid. Everyone should jsut live their lives, god or no god, allah or no allah. I could almost relate it to a Republican not accepting a Democrats point of view. And it's funny cause on the first page of this thread, I don't remember who, but he/she stated that the OP should respect the man's point of view and not just his/hers, yet that posters adavar stated that Obama was a big mistake for America. Hmmmmmm kinda similar...

Everyone just needs to get a grip and live their own lives. Who cares what the person next to you believes in?

-Jimmy-