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Alien Abductions: Good or Bad

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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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I was just wondering. There seems to be a lot of debate going on about people trusting aliens. Seeing I'm just a beginner at UFOology I'd like to know.

Why are there so much offense and defense about them. Are they here to help us or they malicious little monsters?

They beam people aboard their spaceship and do horrible things. Or from what I listened from Coast to Coast they impart some wisdom.

So which is it?



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Probably it is higly individual, just as with "Earthlings". Some är good, some are bad.



[edit on 15-1-2009 by Nightchild]



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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Some are Spielberg's ET and some are Fire In The Sky. I don't trust them greys, not one bit. Just my opinion



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ronnie K.
...aliens. ...Are they here to help us or they malicious little monsters? ...


Lynn Marzulli had an interesting take on this. He said "Look at what they do." (assuming the stories are real).

They take people against their will. In ALL societies, that's kidnapping.
They (allegedly) harvest ovum and sperm. At the minimum, that could be considered various forms of sexual abuse. Again, illegal in all places.
They perform procedures against the persons will. Illegal everywhere on earth.

Now, does that sound like someone who has your best interests at heart?



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 05:46 PM
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It depends on...(How to put this..) what abducts you being that I'm not knowledgeable on the races that have been coined in the UFO field. I'd say what Nightchild said was pretty much true. Their are some who have good intentions and then those who have bad intentions it seems like it's the way the Universe works. You can have those who choose to go left or those who choose to go right.

Aside from that, I'd say that the cases that are most often reported are ones in which aspects of sexual organs are removed (Sperm and ovum) yet, what about ones that have no intention of doing such things? If I can find the links I will post them as soon as possible, but I remember reading about someone who was abducted and put into a different place. For the most part their life had turned for the better. So really I'd say it all depends, like a flip of the coin your not one-hundred percent sure what side you are going to get.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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It's my theory that the same alien may treat two different people the opposite, just to see how they respond like a lab animal or monkey. Kinda like the good cop bad cop routine also.
A subject may respond better to these aliens using either or even both of these methods for mind control just as humans supposedly have.

I wonder with watching movies such as Mars Attacks and than if these aliens visitors do also.


I would really like to hear their opinion of our science fiction. I suppose they may also lack many of the 'special effects' capabilities as real science ability we've imagined and than feel embarrassed or angry that they can't yet or possibly even do that as if some challange for them. It's not like some IQ test and ability they have to pass.

I've seen a few science fiction movies and programs that also insult my intelligence and logic. Such as Star Trek can beam somone up, but can't repair their wounds when they put them back together.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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Lynn Marzulli is going to be interviewd this Sat on THEEDGEam with Daniel Ott.He was on last Saturday when the server went down interrupting theprogram.I find his views interesting to say the least.For the most part I believe theyre up to no good !Some telltale signs will be discussed in his interview as well as ways to interrupt an abduction in progress.Interesting point that was discussed was the fact that many documented abduction experiences were brought to an abrupt end when the name of Jesus was invoked ,but for some reason most of the researchers withheld this information rather than bringing it forward!



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ronnie K.


Why are there so much offense and defense about them. Are they here to help us or they malicious little monsters?

So which is it?



I dont know maybe its all the probing that goes on in the middle of the night. People are tired and try to get some sleep these guys seem to be perverts they travel billions of miles to get here and they do that!


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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Ronnie K.
They beam people aboard their spaceship and do horrible things. Or from what I listened from Coast to Coast they impart some wisdom.

So which is it?


I think the first thing you should take into consideration is that the abduction phenomena is light years away from being understood. Don't accept anything as a sure thing, or the "most probable scenario".

While I'm sure something is happening to some people (obviously not everyone has been 'abducted'), we can't say with any level of certainty that it's aliens, much less figure out what their intentions are.

From a certain point of view it would make some sense if they are here to study our planet, that they would study us much like we study other animals, but some abduction accounts are just absurd and bizarre.

Also you have to consider the state of mind a person would be just by being in contact with intelligent beings from another place. Add the fact that some people report they were taken from their homes and are put in situations out of their control, and it's not a stretch to think that many would think the experience was a negative one.

One's interpretation and 'bias' of the whole thing probably has a lot of influence on how the experience is perceived.

Furthermore, people reporting abductions could also be going through something else, and are looking at their experience as abductions because that's the only reference they have that makes some sense of whatever happened to them.

So, in conclusion, when it comes to abductions I say we don't have enough information and don't know enough about the phenomena to say anything about it's nature, much less the intentions of whoever or whatever is behind it.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Bnmssnit
Interesting point that was discussed was the fact that many documented abduction experiences were brought to an abrupt end when the name of Jesus was invoked

So the Grays are afraid of Jesus or is that the password for stopping the abductions?
No wonder many believe the Grays are biological machines.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:44 AM
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I went to a local mufon conference once, just to see what it was about for fun, and it was just a bunch of people talking about aliens, but since most people if not all are believers they were more fanciful in their story telling, and I went to the restroom before I went in there and this guy was telling this other guy about the anal probe the aliens put up his anus.

Is rape harmless? that's the question.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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It continues to amaze me how people tend to imply that "the aliens" are only one type, and are either good or bad. There are many, both good and bad.

Benevolent types will always respect your free will.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul
It continues to amaze me how people tend to imply that "the aliens" are only one type, and are either good or bad. There are many, both good and bad.

Benevolent types will always respect your free will.


That's good to know. But tell you the truth the the most species of aliens I only grew suspicious of because. Well, Greys are the most I've ever heard in abduction stories so far.

So I guess I am coming off as bias now that I think about it. ^^;





[edit on 16-1-2009 by Ronnie K.]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by PoisonousPoison
It depends on...(How to put this..) what abducts you being that I'm not knowledgeable on the races that have been coined in the UFO field. I'd say what Nightchild said was pretty much true. Their are some who have good intentions and then those who have bad intentions it seems like it's the way the Universe works. You can have those who choose to go left or those who choose to go right.

Aside from that, I'd say that the cases that are most often reported are ones in which aspects of sexual organs are removed (Sperm and ovum) yet, what about ones that have no intention of doing such things? If I can find the links I will post them as soon as possible, but I remember reading about someone who was abducted and put into a different place. For the most part their life had turned for the better. So really I'd say it all depends, like a flip of the coin your not one-hundred percent sure what side you are going to get.


Thank you very much for your insight. Now that it's making a bit more sense to me now. If you ever could provide the links I'd love to read them.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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For the most part, the alleged abductions are not wanted, nor are they planned for. If you get a chance, listen to what tapes of Betty and Barney Hill are available to the public. There is true terror in Mr Hill's voice during the incident. The aliens themselves did not seem malevolent at all, but just interested in collecting data.

For the most part, it is terrifying as it is the unknown, our greatest fear.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by sir_chancealot

Lynn Marzulli had an interesting take on this. He said "Look at what they do." (assuming the stories are real).

They take people against their will. In ALL societies, that's kidnapping.
They (allegedly) harvest ovum and sperm. At the minimum, that could be considered various forms of sexual abuse. Again, illegal in all places.



maybe if they are the "greys" they are trying to figure out how in the world we are able to make babies since they have no visual reproductive organs of their own and yet here we are with girly parts and boy parts. And also they may not take this as a bad thing. they may not understand our laws and what we perceive as "bad" if they have no sexual organs they probably have never dealt with nor heard of "sexual abuse"



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