The Testimony of "Svali," Illuminati Defector

(Tried posting this on the "Secret Societies" board but no one responded...I think this is a better place for it anyway...)

Hey folks...

I came across something a while ago and I thought it was pretty huge. I haven't heard anybody else on this forum mention it, although I haven't been a member for very long, either. So here we go....


In 2005, a woman who used the pseudonym "Svali" went public with some "revelations," claiming that she was an Illuminati defector. She wrote some extensive articles detailing her experiences, and did a radio interview with Greg Syzmanski. Then she disappeared, prompting some to believe that she had been silenced.

Her interview (part 1) with Syzmanski is here, on YouTube, and you can easily link to the other parts from the "related videos":

www.youtube.com...


Some of her writings are here:

www.mindcontrolforums.com...



Thoughts? I'd like to hear what others have to say about this.

Cheers

sorry it took me some time to check these out...

over all i thought it was well thought out. it just lacked a powerful secret society, gets a bit spiritual (???) and refers to the cia.

www.mindcontrolforums.com...
Fifth step: the code of silence.
svali and her family would have been executed by the illuminati before she got a chance to 'escape'.

chapter 3 is just completely bogus. the illuminati control the world already (assuming that they actually existed). they are not a 'boys club'.


useless piece of information.
illuminati use prostitutes to make money (ch 2).
mi5 used prostitutes to blackmail people.

if you are interested in secret societies try researching spies from the 1930s to 1970s to get an idea. start with philby and angleton and build up. just dont get paranoid.

I almost got the feeling she took a lot of the information most anyone on ATS would already know about and turned into some kind of story. It sounded some what fabricated to me. However I cannot make that final judgment.

I find there websitng it never took long to find so here you go illuminati-order.com...

here is something from the site

Adam Weishaupt established the original Bavarian Illuminati in 1776. Even though some evolution has occured, we are still a republican (not the U.S. political party, as it did not exist then) freethought movement which advocates freedom from church domination over philosophy and science, release from the excesses of state oppression, and educating women and treating them as intellectual equals. (In case you were wondering, women are accepted into the Order as peers.) These ideals were very unorthodox in the beginning, and still are in some parts of the world. We have come a long way, but we still have a very long way to go.

The Illuminati Order (IO) has evolved into a global network that promotes a general knowledge and acceptance of the concept of individual rights and the proper role of government as protector of these rights.

We work together to spread the seeds of freedom far and wide. John Adams said, "Liberty can not be preserved without a general knowledge among the people ... Let us dare to read, think, speak and write." We could not agree more! It is one of our goals to establish a local influence in as many countries as possible.

To learn what we mean by the concept of individual rights, read "Man's Rights"; to learn what we mean by the proper role of government, read "The Nature Of Government." Both essays are by Ayn Rand and can be found in either The Virtue Of Selfishness (VOS) or Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal (CUI), though we strongly recommend VOS for its other valuable essays dealing specifically with rights. These books are usually kept in stock at most major bookstores, or easily ordered through them or online.

We must emphasize, however, that the Illuminati Order is not an Objectivist organization, per se. Accepting Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand, is not a requirement of membership.
All who support individual rights--which include the rights to life, liberty, justly acquired property, and the pursuit of happiness--are encouraged to join us!
Why here? Why now?
The Internet offers the means to reach an amazing number of people both quickly and easily, which is at once a blessing and a curse. Many people have at least heard of the term "Illuminati," which is great. However, because of widespread conspiracy theories, it has been our experience that a significant portion of what they have heard about us is incorrect. It is time to act against the misconceptions and disinformation. We aim to set the record straight by using this site to reveal the true nature of the Illuminati Order.

To begin with, we actually support personal freedom. We are pro-liberty and outspoken advocates of individual rights. The term "libertarian" describes us very well.
Our Secrecy: Past, Present and Future
A universally accepted theme of the Illuminati is that of being a secret society. Using this, some have tried to discredit our authenticity because we are not as secret as we are supposedly required to be. So, let us be clear here and now that we are only as secret as necessary to exist relatively unimpeded.

It was on this topic that Thomas Jefferson, one of the Founding Fathers of the United States, wrote the following with regard to the Illuminati:"As Weishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot and priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, and the principles of pure morality. This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment. ... If Weishaupt had written here, where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise and virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose."
This situation is in a constant state of flux, both in the United States and elsewhere. Since we take secrecy and privacy very seriously, we are monitoring this closely. We will not hesitate to make any internal changes that we deem appropriate and necessary.
Honorable Mention
This site is dedicated to all our members thoughout the ages! Thank you for your insight and devotion!

If this is valid, then i apologize to those in the society for any misunderstanding ive had.

yet why cant i for instance go to a "amsterdam style bar" in america yet?

can you use your unimpeded status to fix that loophole please

pretty please..

I can't count on my fingers anymore the number of people who claimed to be or know Illuminati on ATS alone. Its really hard for me to touch in this subject.

I have heard a lot of Svali interviews on youtube and I think she is genuine.

When one hear what other ex-Illuminati are saying - they are all saying similar things. These people are putting themselves in danager for warning us about what is happening behind our backs - so we should be thankful for that and not doubt them. Then in the end one is entitled to come to their own conclusions. But let us give these people the benefit of the doubt and pray that they stay on the straight and now and not go back to that lifestyle.

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My problem with Svali's story is this.....why the anonymity? If she is who she says she is, then certainly TPTB know who she is already. So why not just come clean about her real identity so her stories can be verified independantly?