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Originally posted by SS,Naga
OK, let's get ready to Kill the Messenger! Everybody, get your stones, machetes, whatever. Here it comes...Feel It? Can't you FEEL the Fear, the Hate Building?
#10. Explained: (in words?) The Fear of Enlightenment is Real! Why? Because Everything in the State of True Enlightenment is A HOMO.
That's right everybody, it's the Integrated, or Male-Female Blended SELF! Whoops, shouldn't have told anybody the Truth, heck, is That gonna Hurt! Owwie! That's Right, It's Androgynous. That's what you're Afraid Of: This Androgynous Being-Self is found in the Unknown: It Deals with the Unknown, because it IS the Unknown (read my posts! get some guts: face IT). You Become the Central Light Core of Yourself In This Manner.
Ok, all done. Grasp #1 & #10, and you can prepare to Go Home As Pure Energy (the Transmutation, purpose of Life), instead of 'go home' back to the Void of Unknowing.
Not the End.
Anybody getting the shivvers Now?
Society teaches you not to know this stuff: KILL IT WHEREVER YOU FIND IT!
Notice all the gays coming out, crawling all over 'healthy' society? Hmmmm?????
No: no gay sex is permitted, sorry: that's sandbox stuff. You must learn to become IMPECCABLE.
PS - OK, you can start to 'kill the messenger' now: I sense the hate, the fear, the 'oh no no no!'
This is YOUR TASK, not philosophy 303.
[edit on 18-1-2009 by SS,Naga]
Originally posted by SS,Naga
That's right everybody, it's the Integrated, or Male-Female Blended SELF! Whoops, shouldn't have told anybody the Truth, heck, is That gonna Hurt! Owwie! That's Right, It's Androgynous. That's what you're Afraid Of: This Androgynous Being-Self is found in the Unknown: It Deals with the Unknown, because it IS the Unknown (read my posts! get some guts: face IT). You Become the Central Light Core of Yourself In This Manner.
from myein "to close, shut," perhaps referring to the lips (in secrecy) or to the eyes (only initiates were allowed to see the sacred rites).
Again, if they had appeared to me to admit adequately of writing and exposition, what task in life could I have performed nobler than this, to write what is of great service to mankind and to bring the nature of things into the light for all to see? But I do not think it a good thing for men that there should be a disquisition, as it is called, on this topic-except for some few, who are able with a little teaching to find it out for themselves. As for the rest, it would fill some of them quite illogically with a mistaken feeling of contempt, and others with lofty and vain-glorious expectations, as though they had learnt something high and mighty.
I did not, however, give a complete exposition, nor did Dionysios ask for one. For he professed to know many, and those the most important, points, and to have a sufficient hold of them through instruction given by others. I hear also that he has since written about what he heard from me, composing what he professes to be his own handbook, very different, so he says, from the doctrines which he heard from me; but of its contents I know nothing; I know indeed that others have written on the same subjects; but who they are, is more than they know themselves. Thus much at least, I can say about all writers, past or future, who say they know the things to which I devote myself, whether by hearing the teaching of me or of others, or by their own discoveries-that according to my view it is not possible for them to have any real skill in the matter.
Originally posted by SS,Naga
reply to post by Mr Green
Mr Green - I told you the link was going to be difficult, and also that it required a bit of gnostic background. Oh well.
May I strongly suggest you read the simpler version: "The Gospel of Thomas?"
Also, no comment from you on this link:
"THE SECRET OF LIGHT"
www.abovetopsecret.com...
[edit on 17-1-2009 by SS,Naga]
"...we could go on forever like dogs biting their own tails, trying to describe this. Language is inadequate. ...these experiences are beyond syntax."
("The Active Side of Infinity," Carlos Castaneda)
"If two make peace in one house, they shall say to the mountain: 'Be moved,' and it shall be moved.'" (Gospel of Thomas, sayings of Jesu, 1959 A.Guillaumont translation)
more
"When you (plur.) make the two one and make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside and the above like the below, and that you might make the male and the female be one and the same, so that the male might not be male nor the female be female..."(G.of Thomas, Layton)
"...there are many around the cistern [reasoners who 'know all about it'], but nobody in the cistern. Many are standing at the door, but the solitary are the ones who will enter the bridal chamber." (Gospel of Thomas, saying sof Jesu, 1959 A.Guillaumont translation)
Enlightenment is the shedding of reason and purpose to everything. Enlightenment is the destroyer of self. Enlightenment is the scariest and most lonesome thing you'll ever experience.
Originally posted by BombasticChaos
I've wondered about this myself many times.
Personally, I think "Enlightenment" is achieving a full Oneness with the universe.
Finally understanding why things work the way they do. What your purpose is. What your soul is meant to do.
I think you can do this by meditation, astral projection, and accessing the Akashic Records. All of this takes a gargantuan amount of training and discipline, but it can be done.
Originally posted by Mr Green
Why is it to remain secret/unknown? Even though the mind is unable to experience or even accept this, why does it have to be kept secret? Do you mean from the mind or us?
Originally posted by Mr Green
I know my mind will never accept non dualism, that it is totally unable to experience this, but I still know its the ultimate truth, to me it is not unknown.
Originally posted by Mr Green
Listen to my heart. My heart is totally open to the oneness of life, and as long as I allow it to be totally open to unconditional love nothing else matters. I have all I ever need within so why be confussed.
Enlightenment is love. Total love and acceptance of all. To love being part of all, to know we are part of all. To love all.
if you know all the scriptures, all the vedas, are a highly trained monk, know all that is to be learnt and taught about "the way" note here elf he was referring to the name Taoism, which maybe Mr Green would like, the unknowable, the all, the undescribable, reality
If you meditate endlessly, and offer prayers, blessings, and walk the world in search in truth, it is for naught, for nothing if you do not have LOVE in your heart.
I was in real Danger
In real danger of loosing compassion for my jailers
Originally posted by SS,Naga
#10. Explained: (in words?) The Fear of Enlightenment is Real! Why? Because Everything in the State of True Enlightenment is A HOMO.
That's right everybody, it's the Integrated, or Male-Female Blended SELF! Whoops, shouldn't have told anybody the Truth, heck, is That gonna Hurt! Owwie! That's Right, It's Androgynous. That's what you're Afraid Of: This Androgynous Being-Self is found in the Unknown: It Deals with the Unknown, because it IS the Unknown (read my posts! get some guts: face IT). You Become the Central Light Core of Yourself In This Manner.
[edit on 18-1-2009 by SS,Naga]
...as it is becoming more apparent to me as the years go on of practise that to learn the entire Sutra's is easier than real change in the face of adversity in this context.
May Love and Light bath you all in its truth.
understanding and not just learning.
Its probably one of the most horrific things in the world knowing how to help someone that doesn’t want it
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by psycho81
Well talk in u2u's
So as to not hijack this thread more than once.