entity summoning process question

say I have a name

by what process can I request the presence of the name-bearer?

has anyone additional names? what of pronunciation?

Before i object or protest.

Heres a tin opener

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That should help you rip open the can to get to the worms, the juicy ones are usually kept at the top and the rotten ones at the bottom.

If all you have is a name and you don't even know the process, then even if your told the process, you are still not ready, there is a difference between knowing something and understanding it.

The process varies depending on the type of entity you are dealing with, so to accurately assist i need more info, but check the link I provided and have a nosey around the related links and you might find something of use, they have digital scans of a lot of old books on magic, some a few hundred years old (althought nothing is really useful unless in its original language, which you'll have to learn, as most translations are actually transliterations and arent the same... But even with that most people still need someone to physically teach you, it would be like learning to do martial arts from a book, youll maybe get the external movements right, but there is a lot more going on you wont understand.,

Even if you do manage to pronounce this name you have right, you very rarely get what your looking for.

any entity you call will be older and clever than you, and will have seen a thousand young souls just like you who have tried the same things you are thinking, it usually turns into a game of the puppet pulling the puppet masters strings

My advice personally, and i dont mean any dis respect, just dont do it, and the fact this post exists is justifiable reason to say so



However, the way things are at the moment we need as many people exploring the boundries of reality as possible...............................................................................................
So to hell with it, (literally!?!) go for it!! knock yourself out!!! and try and pull down some walls on your way out!!!! thanks!

under "MyATS" i see on my subscribed threads that Anonymous poster has replied to this thread.. yet now when i check to see what this kind poster may have said i see that there is only my OP.. has someone deleted this kind reply from ats?

Hmm yes the reply may have been deleted by gremlins

We shall see, my posts seem to have the ability to defy time and space. They disapear, then when everyones moved way on in the thread (and still not provided the answers) my post will re appear in its original place away back in the thread, where most people wont look because they think they've seen it all already.

And You have to laugh as my last post dealt somewhat on the matter of time.

Don't worry, knowledge will find you if you call for it.

And if it doesn't ill be in touch!

Unless you are good friends with an experienced Warlock or perhaps an extradimensional being itself, I would not advise messing with any thing you can recite by name unless you are looking to become posessed, paralyzed, psychotic, deathly ill, or just plain dead. I would lie to you if I was a powerful negative entity lurking just out of your perception's range. I would lie and make myself sound so sweet and hell even get cheerleaders say things like "Beelzebub rocks! He's actually the GOOD guy. He's cool cuz he hates Jesus and likes METAL!!!!"

And then there's little newbies running around getting their weewees wet with this stuff for the first time and just looking for a cheap thrill... and those would be the idiots I would lie to FIRST. Especially the fearful idiots... the ones that would do anything to avoid being scared. I could make myself appear to them as hordes of dead zombies every time they think of puppies and sunshine, and suddenly a saint can become a deranged killer, and no one would ever suspect me.

Ya get my drift? Don't call upon spirits. That's just asking for it.

still don't see what there is to be afraid of i just need information

reply to post by dunwichwitch


Come on now...you know that telling someone not to do something, in such a manner, only increases their desire to do it.

reply to ReptileInRays

I've never summoned a thing in my life, so I am by no means an expert in the matter, but have read a lot about it for well over a decade...the first thing you should do is start with research. Depending on "angle" of evocation that you're taking, be it Wicca-based, Key of Solomon-base, gnostic, etc, etc, there may or may not be a "standard" evocation....or invocation...

I think that is probably the bet bit of advice I could think of, and it applies to most things in life.....make sure to do your homework.

...oh yeah, and don't bite off more than you can chew.

[edit on 11/1/09 by madhatr137]

You don't need a name to summon anyone or anything, they are around you all the time. The greatest danger you face is getting them to go home especially if they like you and find you interesting. I really hate people who mislead others by pretending to have knowledge of the unseen people, if they cannot show you a photograph of theirself with the entities they are talking about then you should not listen to them. You can google debris765nju and you will find thousands of webpages of information from ats, disclosetv, youtube, gee videos, etc. Its free and you don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

Typical ATS, everyone just tries to discourage you from free thinking.

2 Posts still haven't appeared.

I will create a login for ATS tomorrow to provide you details of where to find some PDF scans of some books that will interest you.

Originally posted by dunwichwitch
...unless you are looking to become posessed, paralyzed, psychotic, deathly ill, or just plain dead.

Holy crap, that sounds epically brvtal. Nothing more epic than summoning something that can do that. That really goes to show that summoning something of that calibre is definitely so very death metal.

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[edit on 11-1-2009 by Angry Potato]