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Obama urges Congress to postpone Digital television switch

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posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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Make the dang switch already I'm tired of hearing about it.

Yes, radios will still work and I'm pretty sure you will still be able to buy a newspaper and talk to your friends and family about current events.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 09:30 AM
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It could be a good thing for those people. Imagine family time becoming a families escape again. They might actually dust off the old board games that the tv made them forget about because they were busy watching survivor or american idol. But, who wants to spend time with people anymore, it's much more fun being a zombie



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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It has been since 2005 that they have been pushing this.

The 2005 Defecit Reduction and Balanced Budget Act, Title III Transition to Digital and Public Safety Act. H.R. 4569

Now while many might wonder what is so important about having High Definition Digital Cable the first thing I wondered was how the heck does it reduce the deficit and balance the budget?

Congress has declared publicly that September 11th illustrated a need for a broader communications band and more effective communications capabilities for emergency responders.

That after a period of evaluation some decades on the VHF dials will be determined in the future as being available to auction off to broadcasters under the new system.

All sounds kind of nice until you discover that it isn't just emergency responders that need the airwaves but emergency creators.



Well hey thiis video certainly explains how to reduce the defecit!

All you need is a giant machine in Alaska and to not have any communication bands interfering with it.

HDTV also allows for a broader application of the patented silent sound subliminal presentation system.

Silent Sound Presentation System

It truly saddens me when shortsightedness on behalf of the powers that be leaves the slaves without enough monopoly money to think of installing their collars and shackles properly.

I guess less perfect forms of brainswashing are better left in place than the much better perfected ones if none of the people are likely to miss out on the former and too many of the people are going to miss out on the later.

It's a kinder gentler NWO that can now be so flexible. Thanks Herr Obama!



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by nyk537
I don't disagree with you BH, but I just can't see making such a big deal about it.


I don't think it's a big deal, is it? He wants to postpone it. What's the big deal?



I mean honestly, how long have we known about this switch?


I'm embarrassed to admit that I heard about this LAST WEEK. I had no clue. My husband knew, but I didn't.

But it sounds like it's OK with you that other people have to give up their TV. Are you willing to give up yours? Or whatever you do in the evening for entertainment? You don't sound very sympathetic to me. Sorry.


Originally posted by numo16
Actually, the converter boxes are technically free since the government offers vouchers


They are out of vouchers. Link above.



So, they are not really forcing anyone to pay for them, just the stupid people who don't pay attention when the commercials come on and tell them exactly what I just said.


Well, that includes me, then... I guess I'm just too "stupid" to stare at the lame commercials. I mute those suckers every time. I'm a real idiot.



Originally posted by numo16
It could be a good thing for those people.


What people? And if it's good for them, then it's good for you, right? Join the movement and toss your TV (unless you can't bear tearing yourself away from those lame commercials you love).


But, who wants to spend time with people anymore, it's much more fun being a zombie


Sounds like you know of what you speak.



It's pretty amazing how some people are willing to give up other people's TVs and chosen entertainment, but don't ask them to give up what THEY do for entertainment... :shk:



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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I did not realize they were out of vouchers, interesting...Thank you for that information.

In all honesty, I don't watch much TV...95% of the time, if my tv is on, I'm playing video games with my friends and family...wii sports = fun family activity.

Silly BH, I'm not a zombie...I hunt zombies. YAY Resident Evil!



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Get with it people, you can go and get a converter box and you will be ok! HOw many dang commercials have we seen on this? Even though i think it is wrong to force someone to pay for the converter box. I guess Obama is just trying to do something good, but seems like he is going to end up stretching this out much longer than it needs to be.

www.foxnews.com

Here is the true "conspiracy theorist" in me talking now. The reason why we are going to have to pay for tv, and have "the box," or cable or satellite, is so "Big Brother"(the government, the "G-Man") will "know" what we are watching. Soon, radio will be the same way. The reason they want everyone on "direct deposit" is so they can hurry up and usher in the "cashless money system" they want so bad, and then "their control over us" will be "complete!"

Can't you see what is coming folks! They will know what websites we visit, what tv hows we watch, what radio stations we listen to, and will have control of our finances, too!

Kiss my butt, "Big Brother!" I will never comply!

~ Lonelypoet



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by ChilledVoodoo


Get with it people, you can go and get a converter box and you will be ok! HOw many dang commercials have we seen on this? Even though i think it is wrong to force someone to pay for the converter box. I guess Obama is just trying to do something good, but seems like he is going to end up stretching this out much longer than it needs to be.


Are you aware that we are in the midst of the worst economic times since the great depression and many people simply may not be able to afford a converter box?

Some of you people amaze me with your thinking skills (or lack thereof)!


Edit for spelling

[edit on 9-1-2009 by LiquidMirage]



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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I give a plus to Obama for thinking about the main street in this nation for once and taken into consideration my friends in ATS that most of the people that has not change yet to digital are senior citizens and the very poor.

Everybody else has done it and that is fine and dandy but is still millions out there that has not.

At least Obama is shows his head is not so up the butts of wall street.

Because for the last year everything in this nation is been all about wall street and screw the regular Joes.



[edit on 9-1-2009 by marg6043]



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Doesnt anyone use the search feature to find out if subjects are already posted before starting an identical thread?

Topic posted here.

Read my posts and get in on why this whole thing is such a mess.


Cheers!!!!



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by numo16
So, they are not really forcing anyone to pay for them, just the stupid people who don't pay attention when the commercials come on and tell them exactly what I just said.



The government doesn't pay for anything; taxpayers do!

Who's stupid now?



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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There is no reason the government should be doing this in the first place. The frequencies used now for analog t.v. are here for everyone to enjoy. With the switch to digital, the government can now controll and tax the broadcasters, and there is nothing we can do about it.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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Can we really be that stupid or that conditioned that we can't see the handwriting on the wall? Come on these guys just are not that bright. Why have we allowed ourselves to be turned into electronic junkies that fear loss of electricity to loss of food and water? My work schedule and my location makes the internet my means for communication and socialization so I am not painting myself outside the loop but I removed myself from the box years ago. It has always been a tool used for controlling the way we think and behave but with the forced switch to digital will push that box into warp mode. God help us if we don’t wake up and help us if we do.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by ChilledVoodoo
There is no reason the government should be doing this in the first place. The frequencies used now for analog t.v. are here for everyone to enjoy. With the switch to digital, the government can now controll and tax the broadcasters, and there is nothing we can do about it.


Umm...the government has been controlling the broadcasters since 1936 when the FCC was created.

The only frequencies that will not be used for digital broadcasting are the lower VHF frequencies...Ch 2 through 6. All the others will still remain in use.

90 percent of the stations digital channel allotment is on the same frequency or adjacent to their exsisting analog frequency.

Chances of the dealy making some major impact are nill. It will only mean that broadcasters will keep their analog transmitter running for awhile, giving more time for consumers to get into the 21st century.



Cheers!!!!



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by numo16
In all honesty, I don't watch much TV...95% of the time, if my tv is on, I'm playing video games with my friends and family...wii sports = fun family activity.


See? If this switch were happening to video games instead of TV and you would have to pay some amount outside your means (say $2500) to get the converter box, you might be able to understand my position a little better.


And I don't even watch Network TV OR play video games.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Hmm... This doesn't seem like some benevolent move from our Prez-Elect - to me - it smakcs of a oh S*** people might just stop watching TV.

We certainly don't want that! - so lets push the date back a little.

For me - there is nothing on TV I cannot get (or get a better version of) on the Internet.

And that, of course, is why they want to kill the Internet.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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Liquid, you misunderstood, and Marg, I agree with you both.

Okay, let me explain better. Folks, I am against this d*mn box, because why should we give up analog tv? I have no satellite or cable, have a Zenith TV from the 80's, works perfectly with "Rabbit Ears." LOL!!!

Here is what I am saying. I dislike Obama, but, I agree with us not going to this digital crap, why? Well, why should we pay when we've had it free for decades? It is because it is a control issue with "Big Brother." More control! I refuse to submit, so will never have cable or satellite, or "the box," so they can "kiss it!" I will never get satellite radio, more control, they can kiss it!

Wake up folks, before it's too late! :-(

~ Lonelypoet



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:35 AM
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Truth Magnet, you are so right, because the reason they want to kill the Internet is because people still have "freedom of speech" on here, say what they think, and get their news from alternate sources, and sometimes, "better sources!" God forbid, so they are trying to squelch our "freedom of speech" and ideas!!!

THEY WILL FAIL, FOR WE THE PEOPLE "WILL WIN!"

~ Lonelypoet








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posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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obama's not the president


i dont now much about this but i am curious if this leaves open an entire media to be picked up.. could people find a way to take over the use of air broadcast television since the networks re abandoning them? its not like it will be against the law to have an antennae right?


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posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Lonelypoet
Liquid, you misunderstood, and Marg, I agree with you both.

Okay, let me explain better. Folks, I am against this d*mn box, because why should we give up analog tv? I have no satellite or cable, have a Zenith TV from the 80's, works perfectly with "Rabbit Ears." LOL!!!

Here is what I am saying. I dislike Obama, but, I agree with us not going to this digital crap, why? Well, why should we pay when we've had it free for decades? It is because it is a control issue with "Big Brother." More control! I refuse to submit, so will never have cable or satellite, or "the box," so they can "kiss it!" I will never get satellite radio, more control, they can kiss it!

Wake up folks, before it's too late! :-(

~ Lonelypoet


You wont be paying any monthly charge for the use of this converter box. Be thankful you are not in the UK, where the public has to pay for a receiver license every year just to watch tv or listen to the radio!!!

The cost of the box is not that expensive. Around 130 bucks without the coupons. Some pay more than that for a night out on the town or 5 hours at the local pub, even during these bad economic times.

Its a matter of putting this all into prospective. If you want your analog tv to continue to work with over the air signals, you need a converter box to receive the digital signals. Even if you dont get a box, you can still use that old analog tv for other things, like using a RF converter to watch DVD's or using the RF output of an old VHS machine to play back video tapes. Or maybe monitor Ch 3 and Ch4 for that alien broadcast thats supposed to happen sometime later this year!!


There is no forcing of anything onto anyone. If you want it, you can get it. If not, simply do without. It wont matter to the government, the FCC, the broadcasters or anyone else. The only one that will loose out is those who dont get the box or subscribe to cable or satellite tv.

Even that good ol workhorse Zenith tv will give out sooner or later. Good luck finding replacement parts.


Cheers!!!!



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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There is something far more sinsiter relating to this 'change'. It is going to be the next step, the next level in the process of mind control.



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