UFO traffic and Australia's Bermuda Triangle

UFO traffic and Australia's Bermuda Triangle

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On the 7th of October 2008 the passengers on Qantas flight 72 from Singapore to Perth experienced something that may well haunt them for the rest of their lives. As the Airbus A330-303 was travelling over the

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Naval Communication Station Harold E. Holt is located on the northwest coast of Australia, 6 kilometres (4 mi) north of the town of Exmouth, Western Australia. The town of Exmouth was built at the same time as the communications station to provide support to the base and to house dependent families of U.S. Navy personnel.

The station provides very low frequency (VLF) radio transmission to United States Navy and Royal Australian Navy ships and submarines in the western Pacific Ocean and eastern Indian Ocean. With a transmission power of 1000 kilowatts, it is the most powerful transmission station[citation needed] in the Southern hemisphere

Sir Garfield Barwick, Australian Minister for External Affairs, negotiated the lease on the US Base at North West Cape in 1963 with U.S. ambassador William Battle. The lease did not allow Australia any degree of control over the station or its use.

The station was commissioned as U.S. Naval Communication Station North West Cape on September 16, 1967 at a ceremony with the US Ambassador to Australia Ed Clark and the Prime Minister of Australia Harold Holt, at which peppercorn rent for the base for the first year was paid.[1].

On September 20, 1968, the station was officially renamed to U.S. Naval Communication Station Harold E. Holt in memory of the late Harold Holt, former Prime Minister of Australia, who disappeared whilst swimming and was declared dead, presumed drowned, three months after the station was commissioned.

With the election of the Labor Government to power in 1972, Defence Minister Lance Barnard started negotiations on the condition of operation of the U.S. military bases in Australia. On January 9, 1974 a joint statement by Lance Barnard and James Schlesinger, the US Secretary of Defence: assigned the Deputy Commander of the base to a Royal Australian Navy officer and gave Australian personnel roles in base technical and maintenance functions. The cipher room was closed to Australian scrutiny. The joint statement stressed the importance of consultations in crises. There was no undertaking given by the USA to relay fire orders to their submarines bearing nuclear missiles.[2]

In May 1974 several hundred people traveled to North West Cape from around Australia to protest and occupy the base and "symbolically reclaiming it for the Australian people".[1] During the occupation the Eureka Flag was flown over the base with fifty five people arrested during the protest. Songs composed in the campaign against North West Cape and other US bases in Australia include We don't want no Yankee Bases and Omega Doodle which have become part of the Australian folkloric tradition.[3]

In Western Australian domestic politics, the presence of foreign military installations in the state has occasionally been questioned over the decades.[4]

The "U.S." was dropped from the station's official title with the advent of joint U.S. and Royal Australian Navy operation in 1974.


Learmonth Solar Observatory is jointly operated by IPS Radio and Space Services and by the US Air Force. The observatory is the site of one of six solar velocity imagers in the world-wide GONG (Global Oscillation Network Group) network operated by NOAO (U.S. National Optical Astronomy Observatories).

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How does any of this relate to ufo's?

You have to read the news article....

Basically the systems of 2 aeroplanes (in 2 years) went completely nuts (wrecking the autopilot, sending the craft straight up into the sky and then nosediving it several times).
There are several different high-tech bases there (submarine communication, sun and atmosphere observatory and a base without a purpose) and the question is are they there to communicate with UFOs.

Very brief summary, see link for more details!

Samuel

There was also a similar incident in the same area on the 27th of December 08.

Defence station interference suspected in Qantas mishaps

January 3rd 2009 - A MALFUNCTION has forced a Qantas jet to return to Perth, prompting concerns for the second time in three months that interference from a defence station in northwestern Australia may be to blame for a mid-air drama on the national carrier.

Qantas flight 71 was on route to Singapore with 277 passengers about 8.30am last Saturday when it had to return to Perth after the jet's autopilot disconnected because of a problem with a unit that supplies key information to flight control computers.

The Airbus A330-300 was 45 minutes into the journey and about 380 nautical miles south of the Harold E. Holt Naval Communications Station - 15km north of Exmouth - when the autopilot switched off.

After being notified that the plane was experiencing a problem with the air data inertial reference unit, the crew responded in less than a minute and followed revised operation procedures issued by Airbus after a similar emergency in October.

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Wonder if the AA still calls this a co-incidence

AA?
You mean the Civil Aviation Safety Authority aka CASA?

I don't think it's a coincidence, but I also don't think it is due to aliens.
I think those bases mentioned, serve the purpose they are stated to, along with some capabilities that are kept secret, perhaps intelligence gathering of some sort in the Indian ocean? But UFO's from outer space? Don't think so.

The reason I say it is not UFO related is that if these things do exist, which I'm not saying they do or don't(until I see one land in front of me and an et walk out, providing I'm not drunk or haven't bumped my head), is because if they did, and they wanted to conceal their existance, they wouldn't use an area were an International flight route is located. They would move it further inland.
The majority of Australia is uninhabited. There is literally hundreds if not thousands of locations they could do something like that. Why chose an area were Inernational flights pass over?

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Love the language in the linked article; "mysterious airbase."

Nothing mysterious about it. Australia is a very, very large country with a small population, and a small air force. We only have two squadrons of FA18A fighters (total about two dozen). We cannot afford to maintian large active airbases let alone fill them with aircraft. So the economic solution is to maintain "Bare Bases". These are large bases with all the trappings of a military airbase dotted around north western Australia, maintained by a few caretakers. These places can be made operational in a matter of days (or weeks?) If the worst happens near one the operational squadrons are deployed there at short notice. In the mean time they are often used for training purposes.

There is however several telecommunication "spy bases" (local vernacular) near there and further south near my home town of Geraldton. Again these are not very mysterious. In fact there is a sign off the main road leading to a picnic area and lookout over the base for curious sight seekers. This base (we are told) are for monitoring not transmitting. Interestingly we were told years ago when they were being built that most NATO & US Navy telecommunications in the Indian Ocean go through the base.

Erm, the RAAF has a lot more then two dozen fighter jets.
There are 71 FA18 Hornets in three squadrons. No.3, No.75 and No.77.
There are also 21 F111's in two squadrons, which will be replaced by 24 FA18 Super Hornets in a few years for around 6 billion.
On top of that, the FA18 Hornets will be replaced by around 100 F35. It remains to be seen what will happen with the new Super Hornets, will they stay in service after the F35 enters service, or will they be put in storage or sold.

Btw, the cost of the F35 purchase is around 16 billion.

In addition to that, we are also building 3 air warfare destroyers, in a contract worth around 8 billion. And there might yet be a fourth one announced.

I don't know where you got this notion that Australia lacks the funds for its defence, but it is misguided and couldn't be any more off base.

You have 30 billion worth of weapons purchases in just the three things I mentioned above, on top of a 22 billion dollar annual budget.

The RAN is also acquiring two new large amphibious assault ships(which could be modified to carry F35B), plans are underway for the replacement of the Collins class submarines, every field vehicle in the Australian Army will be replaced, new anti-submarine helicopters, the NH90 helicopter is being acquired too. Not to mention the Army replaced all its tanks with the M1A1AIM(51 in total), as well as the RAAF purchasing four C17 Globemasters(one of only four countries to operate those beasts).

We also developed and built our own over the horizon radar capability worth billlions, called JORN. We now monitor all our northern approaches with this capability, and it is used at times for border patrol assistance. It is also said that when the conditions are ideal, it can track objects(missiles, ships, planes) as far away as southern China, in other words, take a guess how far the range of this baby really is

We have an area in central Australia, which is a no go zone. The Woomera exclusion zone. This area is larger then most countries.

Trust me, Australia does not lack the funds. There is a lot more going on then most people realise or will ever know about.

But I do agree, for the size of our country, we have a very small airforce, and in fact, a small military/defence force overall.

The bare bases with skeleton crews left behind to maintain them, are more of a strategic thing, then anything else. In the event of an attack on Australia, the bases are ready to go, the only thing they will need is the planes and personnel to arrive which will be swift anyway.

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Well what a load of crap How many flights do you think have passed over this area on the past say 10 years ???

I worked for Ansett for many years and the amount of issues that happened is shocking....I find it very hard to swallow that bs





Trust me, Australia does not lack the funds. There is a lot more going on then most people realise or will ever know about.

You don't know how close to the truth you are

In what capacity did you work at Ansett? On a side note, it's a shame it went under, I only flew with them twice but can say the crew were friendlier then Qantas(what airlines staff aren't though? :lol

And can you specify any incidents that occurred? I assume they were similar in nature to the two to have hit the news in recent times.
I was actually wondering after the first incident, if there had been any previous incidents, as with the location mentioned on the news, it was pretty obvious what was nearby and well, like the rest of you, that's the first thing that popped into my mind(interference from the base).