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Debunking the 'Fake Jew' AKA The 'Khazarian Jew' Myth.

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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: sk0rpi0n
That's the third off topic insult post in a row from you. Address the topic or get off the thread. Address the facts presented by the Universities and by National Geographic and the Smithsonian. Try to debunk the basic fact that migration changes race and dna and culture. It's established fact and well proven ... so good luck with that.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan


Whoa there FlyersFan.

I see nothing indicating a hatred for Israel and or Jews. Hatred of Zionists maybe but that is because through tactics of Terrorism and Murder of the inhabitants of that land that they the Khazar Jews (Zionists) were able to illegally invade and take it over. They are the ones that are full of hatred. They are the murdering Racists. If it wasn't for the Zionists then the Middle East would probably have been different and more peaceful. Of course there will always be disagreements between the countries, people and governments but not full on Genocidal Wars that there are now.

Zionist controlled Western and Arab Countries are doing all the damage to the middle east not the Muslim people!



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
That's the third off topic insult post in a row from you. Address the topic or get off the thread. Address the facts presented by the Universities and by National Geographic and the Smithsonian. Try to debunk the basic fact that migration changes race and dna and culture. It's established fact and well proven ... so good luck with that.



Speak for yourself.

The topic is: "Debunking the 'Fake Jew' AKA The 'Khazarian Jew' Myth." and not migration changes race and culture!

Now that we have had our differences of opinion aired out let's get back on topic shall we?



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

No, the real history of the region is that Arabs, Christians and Jews were living peacefully amongst each other prior to 1917. Afterwards they were put in a strip of land which is blown to bits because the Palestinians disagree that they should be isolated there against their will. They are not allowed to return to their homes even though the below


Article 15 required the mandatory administration to see to it that complete freedom of conscience and the free exercise of all forms of worship were permitted.

The proviso to the objective of the mandate was that "nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".


was a condition on the British Mandate. So who is in the wrong here? Obviously the Zionists who then also went on to attack British soldiers in the late 40's. These sadistic muts then went on to murder innocent Women and Children before eventually Palestinians were put in the modern day ghetto they are in now.

So you can justify the Israeli position all you like but to be honest with you, they only deserve the same in return for the brutality they have committed against the Palestinians. My hate isn't for the State of Israel but the maggots who are in control of that country. And judging by the actions of those maggots, they are not Jewish and do not have any legitimate claim to the state they possessed through international Banksters.
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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: Dorrell
The topic is: "Debunking the 'Fake Jew' AKA The 'Khazarian Jew' Myth." and not migration changes race and culture!

Skorpion brought in the migration issue with this topic about who is a real jew and who isn't. He introduced it. Therefore, it is now part of the topic. He stated migration doesn't change race. I proved it does using credible proven science. This is basic stuff that every school kid knows ... migration changes populations. It's part of the discussion.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: Dorrell
I see nothing indicating a hatred for Israel and or Jews.

I"m sure you don't ... but it's there. Quote from DarknStormy - "What must be questioned is how they adapt the Jewish religious laws into their lives and the majority of Jews today do not even consider living by the Torah. They are money hungry and like to murder innocent people and think this is enough to justify their belief." The 'majority of jews' are money hungry and like to murder innocent people according to him. If that's unsubstantiated then that's bigoted hatred.

If it wasn't for the Zionists then the Middle East would probably have been different and more peaceful.

The Middle East has ALWAYS been a blood bath. It was long before Israel was set up. It's been that way for thousands of years ... from Joshua being a terrorist murdering thug of innocent people, all the way up to Israel doing it's nasty stuff today and the PLO teaching their children to be suicide bombers.

Zionist controlled Western and Arab Countries are doing all the damage to the middle east not the Muslim people!

That's not even remotely true. Everyone is doing damage to the middle east. Israel. Jews. Muslims. Interference by the West. Interference by Islamic countries. Everyone is stirring the pot. There are no innocent parties in the Middle East.

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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: DarknStormy
The 'Palestinians' don't live in a modern day ghetto and the 13 million Jews on the planets aren't all murderers as you claimed. Israel does nasty things. The 'Palestinians' do nasty things. But the fact is, Israel exists and there has to be a two state solution. This is 2014AD ... it's not 2,500 BC. Live by todays laws and by secular rule ... not some 4,500 year old Hebrew peasants unsubstantiated claim of 'we are God's chosen' ... and not some Muslim squatter attempt to take the title of 'God's chosen'. No one is 'chosen'. Welcome to 2014.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

It was alright to steal what we wanted 400, 200, 70 years ago.. This isn't about 2500 years ago. The modern day Zionists have never inhibited that land in history so what gives them the right to pillage and murder then take that land for themselves with the consent of Britain who had no right either? It's like China defeating the USA in a war and then giving 48 states of America to Kashmir because they are Indians and have the same name as an American Indian. Would you see that as a legal act?


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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
The modern day Zionists have never inhibited that land in history ...

King David's Tomb - From 1,000 BC.
The Jews have a history in that region. The Arabs have a history in that region.
A two state solution based on modern secular law is the only common sense solution.

I get that you think the 'majority of jews' are murdering thieves. You said so. But guess what ... they aren't. Israel isn't innocent but the 'Palestinians' aren't exactly innocent either. People need to evolve. DNA is unimportant. 'Race' is unimportant. Living together on a very crowded planet IS important. NO ONE IS "CHOSEN".

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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Yeah, King David was a Semite, what's that got to do with Modern day Zionists from Khazaria? And just so you know this is where there history originates from.





Heard of a Caucasian? Obviously from the Caucasus area.


In his earlier racial typology, Meiners put forth that Caucasians had the "whitest, most blooming and most delicate skin". Europeans with darker skin he considered "dirty whites", admixed with Mongolian. Such views were typical of early scientific attempts at racial classification, where skin pigmentation was regarded as the main difference between races. This view was shared by the French naturalist Julien-Joseph Virey, who believed that the Caucasians were only the palest-skinned Europeans.


This is where your white skinned Jews originate from, not Israel. Heard of Khazakstan? This is where the Muslim Khazars went.
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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
This is where your white skinned Jews originate from, not Israel.

SO WHAT? Jew is Jew. Migrations and slavery and changes in population movements happen. SO WHAT? Are you going to say that since the Jew is white and not olive skinned, that somehow they are less Jewish ... and that they can't live in Israel? And that because today's Jews have a lot of white skin that somehow they should automatically move out of the land and give it to brown skinned Muslims ... based on skin color?

Comeon ... really?

This is the kind of crap that comes from people adhering to the notion that certain groups are 'specially chosen' by God .. notions that came from unsubstantiated peasant claims of 4,500 years ago. It's silly.

SIde note - My hispanic daughter from Bolivia got her DNA testing done with 23&me. She's got Asian and European and even Ashkenazi and Sub-Saharan African DNA ... but does that make her any less hispanic/Bolivian? NO.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan



Skorpion brought in the migration issue with this topic about who is a real jew and who isn't. He introduced it.

Because it has everything to do with a thread regarding the origin of the blonde blue eyed people parading as Israelites.



He stated migration doesn't change race.

Not to the extent of transforming an entire regions racial make up.


I proved it does using credible proven science.

No you just ran a bunch of searches on google and copy pasted whatever came up. anybody could do just that, if they wanted to stoop to your level.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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SO WHAT? Jew is Jew


Yes. Even european converts to the jewish religion are "jews". That doesnt make them descendants of the actual semitic Jews.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
Because it has everything to do with a thread regarding the origin of the blonde blue eyed people parading as Israelites.

They aren't 'parading as Israelites'. They are indeed Jewish and they are indeed Israeli. You are just looking for an excuse to kick the jews off the land so Muslims can move in. Obvious racial bigotry based upon antiquated religious notions. It has no place in 2014 AD.

Not to the extent of transforming an entire regions racial make up.

Yes it can. If you had actually read the information given by the scientists, you'd know better than to make that uneducated statement.

if they wanted to stoop to your level.

Grow the hell up .


This is yet another example of why adhering to the unsubstantiated 'God's Chosen People' rhetoric of 4,500 years ago is bad for humanity. The planet is overcrowded. People need to learn to deal with the fact that no one is specially chosen by God and no one has a 'god given right' to that land. A two state solution is the only one that could work ... if idiots could keep religion out of it.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

No, I'm saying that land was obtained by deceit and that no Jew should be entitled to that land simply because they butchered the people who were already there. You know, the ones that were invisible according to all Western observations. Even your secular style diplomacy let the Palestinians down after they were promised that they wouldn't be persecuted. But I guess that just makes sense though, doesn't it?



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
That doesnt make them descendants of the actual semitic Jews.


1 - The amount of semitic Jewish DNA is irrelevant. You don't have to be olive skinned with brown eyes to be considered a 'real Jew'.

2 - It doesn't matter if someone is a 'descendant' or not. This is 2014 AD, not 2,500 BC. Ancient claims of 'gods chosen people' getting the land if they behave a certain way is irrelevant. Muslims using that as an excuse to kick Israeli Jews out ... Israeli Jews using it as an excuse to take over settlement areas .... it's all just excuses for land grabbing.

3 - Israel exists. 'Palestine' will soon officially exist. The only way that the two will be able to get along is if this ignorant religious rhetoric based on ancient claims of 'gods chosen' are stopped. People need to grow up.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
I'm saying that land was obtained by deceit and that no Jew should be entitled to that land simply because they butchered the people who were already there.

Israel exists. Palestine soon will exist. There is no going back.

Large movements of people take over others all the time. Change and migration and spreading at the point of a sword. That's how Egypt and Syria and Iran became Muslim ... native peoples were wiped out and forced to convert and have Muslim babies. That's how North America became 'european' and (it's becoming hispanic now). That's how South America went from Native Indian to Spanish. None of those places will ever go backwards to what it was.

People have to deal with change. Nothing stays the same.

And holding onto 4500 year old unsubstantiated religious notions of who should own which piece of land ... that's just insane. The people who are in Israel now are Israelis. The people who are in 'Palestine' now are Palestinians. Both groups - the Israelis and Palestinians - have recent ancestors who came from other places. BOTH GROUPS. So what? They are there now. They have been for generations. Live in the here and now .. not the year 2,500 BC.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:23 AM
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And since it was missed ... I'll restate this ...

- My hispanic daughter from Bolivia got her DNA testing done with 23&me. She's got Asian and European and even Ashkenazi and Sub-Saharan African DNA ... but does that make her any less hispanic/Bolivian? NO.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: AshleyD

Giving the Jews the land in Israel after WWII makes as much sense as it would for Americans to finally return the lands back to the Natives of this land that was stolen and called America.

I don't dispute Jewish ancestry. I dispute the political motivations to create a Jewish state after the fall of Nazi Germany. These things weren't linked at all, other than certain Zionists pushing for Israel prior to WWII.

In fact, I have a theory (for a different thread) that ties together the founding of America and the creation of Israel. It has nothing to do with ancestry.



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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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God forbid peace were to break out.Whom would the resident national socialists have to direct their insane hatred towards then?




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