Here are most of those I told about 9-11 before 9-11 happened.

Persons I told about the coming attacks of 9-11 in varying degrees of detail, beginning around September of 1997, and continuing to and through the night of September 10, 2001. In as near chronological order as I was able to remember. Source---Discovery 9-11: Genesis of American Terror.
Copyright John Gobin Shaw 2006.

Mary Conley 1996, exception, one other there too.
Students at Yeungjin Junior College 1997,
Larry W. Bowman, PH.D. 1997,
Ken Biondi 1997,
Professors Wendy and James Olmsted 1997, 2000, 2001,
Doris Hoffman 1997 or 98,
Xiang Li Zhu 1997-2001,
Rufus W. (Dub) Davis 1998,
Officer Danny Carey 1998,
Brian_____1999,
3-4 guys in youth hostel in Santa Cruz, CA 1999,
passengers and driver on Greyhound bus coastal CA 1999,
Stacie (Steve) Homer 1999-00,
Andrew Campbell 1999-00,
Students and teachers in Jinan, China 2000,
Xiang Li Zhu’s uncle Dec. 2000,
Jeff Shaw December 2000,
911 Stuart FL early 2001,
4 persons at church dinner 2001,
Mr. Osborne of FL DOC early 2001,
Craig Newbold 2001,
Nurse at Martin Memorial Hospital on or around May 22, 2001,
Eva Schulman May or June 2001,
6 persons in Shepard Park August 2001 (Robert Dixon and Martin Wrigley),
Some govt. or law enforcement number Fort Pierce, FL night of 10 Sept. 2001, possibly ninth, about 8:30 pm from phone booth near Dunkin Donut between I-95 and turnpike on Okeechobee Rd. OTHERS.


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So the day before 911 you were warning about 911.

I am missing some gaps. To what which method of dissemination did you employ? Coffee shops chat or otherwise? Where is your clickable source material...plucky is tired and champangna-out, otherwise...

Originally posted by pluckynoonez
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So the day before 911 you were warning about 911.

I am missing some gaps. To what which method of dissemination did you employ? Coffee shops chat or otherwise? Where is your clickable source material...plucky is tired and champangna-out, otherwise...

Person to person, face to face, e-mail, and telephone. Sometimes face to face and e-mail with same person, some only phone, etc. Some face to face and later phone, etc.

The entire document, 90 pages 54,000 words, is on disc and paper. It is clickable to me. It is not available in its entirety to the general reading puiblic. I obtained as many verifiable resources as I could with the time and resources available to me. It was time consuming, and disappointing and frustrating at times.

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How did you know.
Why did you only tell those in your OP.
Why are you letting people know now on ATS.

EDIT to add: I see you are new here, Welcome to ATS. Good luck.

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Give them a break, some people still dont realize the Bush crime family was behind it and its been 8 years now.

People are driven by emotions, not logic. If you grow up in the US, you have been "americanized" and therefore its much more difficult to realize what really happened on 9/11.

More and more people are starting to get it now though.


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Are you Shaw.

Found this.
Might be interesting to the thread.
www.newsforum.com...

Discovery 9-1-1 Is Not a Conspiracy Theory

Discovery 9-11: Genesis of American Terror

John Gobin Shaw

First Rough Draft

Copyright 2005

This version was substantially revised after 2005.

INTRODUCTION

It was 1997 in the city of Taegu, South Korea at Yeungjin Junior College. Professor John Gobin Shaw from Stuart, Florida discovered plans for the fiery attacks that exploded into history in Washington, New York, and Pennsylvania on that bright blue morning of September 11, 2001. From 1997 right up through the night of September 10, 2001, to twelve hours before the first commandeered jet aircraft burst into a large orange fireball in a tower of the World Trade Center, he had detailed the attacks to about one hundred and twenty people in the Republic of South Korea, in the People?s Republic of China, in North Vietnam, and in South Florida. Discovery 9-1-1, is the story of his uncovering the plans of attack, and of his experiences warning people about them in the years, months, weeks, and hours leading up that ill-fated day for America. Among those apprised of the attacks were college students, a federal officer, a long-time deputy sheriff in Martin County, Florida, the 911 emergency number in Stuart, Florida, and an officer of the state of Florida.

Originally posted by atlasastro
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How did you know.
Why did you only tell those in your OP.
Why are you letting people know now on ATS.

EDIT to add: I see you are new here, Welcome to ATS. Good luck.

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1. I suggested to people in Saudi Arabia it could be done successfully, and they could come to FL for technical training. They agreed to do it. I took their word for it.

2. OP? I am not sure what you mean? If I know I have been seriously screwed over by military, law, and government, why should I go out of my way to look after their security?

3. Why not? These forums are starved for primary source information on 9-11.

4. Edit: Thank you.

[edit on 1-1-2009 by Jailhouserock]

Originally posted by atlasastro
Are you Shaw.

Found this.
Might be interesting to the thread.
www.newsforum.com...

Discovery 9-1-1 Is Not a Conspiracy Theory

Discovery 9-11: Genesis of American Terror

John Gobin Shaw

First Rough Draft

Copyright 2005

This version was substantially revised after 2005.

INTRODUCTION

It was 1997 in the city of Taegu, South Korea at Yeungjin Junior College. Professor John Gobin Shaw from Stuart, Florida discovered plans for the fiery attacks that exploded into history in Washington, New York, and Pennsylvania on that bright blue morning of September 11, 2001. From 1997 right up through the night of September 10, 2001, to twelve hours before the first commandeered jet aircraft burst into a large orange fireball in a tower of the World Trade Center, he had detailed the attacks to about one hundred and twenty people in the Republic of South Korea, in the People?s Republic of China, in North Vietnam, and in South Florida. Discovery 9-1-1, is the story of his uncovering the plans of attack, and of his experiences warning people about them in the years, months, weeks, and hours leading up that ill-fated day for America. Among those apprised of the attacks were college students, a federal officer, a long-time deputy sheriff in Martin County, Florida, the 911 emergency number in Stuart, Florida, and an officer of the state of Florida.

Well, ahh, you know, it was just my opinion until the morning of September 11, 2001 at which time it became a tangible, historical fact.

Originally posted by Jailhouserock

1. I suggested to people in Saudi Arabia it could be done successfully, and they could come to FL for technical training. They agreed to do it. I took their word for it.

Ok. So you are Mr Shaw, Hi. Are you claiming that you inspired the 9-11 attacks. Did you train these people?
I have seen you implode on other forums, and I hope you are more patient as you will be heavily scrutinized on ATS if people pick up this thread.

2. OP? I am not sure what you mean? If I know I have been seriously screwed over by military, law, and government, why should I go out of my way to look after their security?

By OP i mean your original Post, the thread started on.

3. Why not?

I was only wondering why you post now, just interested. Good Luck with your book.

BTW. Cyclings a great way to see the world. Have done a few cycle trips myself. Take care.

Originally posted by Copernicus

Give them a break, some people still dont realize the Bush crime family was behind it and its been 8 years now.

People are driven by emotions, not logic. If you grow up in the US, you have been "americanized" and therefore its much more difficult to realize what really happened on 9/11.

More and more people are starting to get it now though.


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Sorry, I do not have any first-hand knowledge about government elites staging the attacks.

What you say about emotions. Yes, it is very much so. They cannot accept facts unless they are culturally conditioned to do so, which, in the USA, they often are not. The Europeans say the trouble with Americans is they believe their own propaganda.

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it's good that more people are confessing up...
i've long thought that there were perhaps hundreds of people all over
America that were ?sensitive? enough to pick up on the pre-9-11
(call it tapping into the collective Un-conscious ?)
events and to then 'warn/alert' friends, aquaintences, and others as they became networked in your life.

prior to 1990, i was very quiet about relating the future attacks by
crashing airplanes into 3 targets, by followers of a man in a blue turban...

And because events in my circumstances changed in 1990, i could then
follow a 'Quest' which took me to the Desert...i wound up in Phoenix for the next 7 years...
and networked into the new-age community & an alternate sub-culture there...

At the Scottsdale, AZ airport, my 'Quest' mission became realized...
My work partner, Robert Chase Was there too, when a group of 6, young
'Arab' men were walking briskly across the concourse to their next Pilot Training class.
After telling Robert that these were the men- who would fly
aircraft into the WTC, Pentagon, & the Washington Monument...
and to just look at their faces without drawing any attention.
Later that night I wrote a 'Tip Letter' to the Phoenix FBI...
this was in April-May 1995.


Jailhouserock, maybe we can share information...and try to find others who were the prophets (as it were),
perhaps even map out where the message/warning was announced, to whom, etc

My last attempt to warn the un-concerned was to Forbes Magazine in June 2001...
when they printed (without my permission) an old picture of myself on the cover of the
April-May 2001, issue of the 'American Heritage' magazine.


i then just folded my arms, and went about my own business and concerns...as i did all i could do...& i still did not know if the events would happen that year or the next...or if 9-11 was in Sept or in Nov


thanks,


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Originally posted by atlasastro

Originally posted by Jailhouserock

1. I suggested to people in Saudi Arabia it could be done successfully, and they could come to FL for technical training. They agreed to do it. I took their word for it.

Ok.

So you are Mr Shaw, Hi. Are you claiming that you inspired the 9-11 attacks. Did you train these people?
I have seen you implode on other forums, and I hope you are more patient as you will be heavily scrutinized on ATS if people pick up this thread.

2. OP? I am not sure what you mean? If I know I have been seriously screwed over by military, law, and government, why should I go out of my way to look after their security?

By OP i mean your original Post, the thread started on.

3.

Why not?

I was only wondering why you post now, just interested. Good Luck with your book.

BTW. Cyclings a great way to see the world. Have done a few cycle trips myself. Take care.

I have given you some facts, and you have drawn conclusions from them. There is a lot more. Conclusions from what I have given you would be hasty generalizations. There is quite a bit more.

No, I did not train anyone. I am a cyclist, not an aviator. The technical aspects of the flying, and the physical takeover of the aircraft were their jobs, and had to be attended to only by the actual commandeers. I had no business telling anybody details of what to do in those matters, only that the mission could be done successfully. I gave a little advice on what to say and not to say, do and not do to avoid coming under suspicion while in the US training, but I did not train anyone myself. The most my correspondents ever did was make an agreement to do the attacks, and some other matters I referred to.

I have never substantiated the people I was corresponding with had anything whatever to do with the attacks, but the fact remains I found out through this correspondence and had told about 130 others in highly accurate detail about the attacks before they happened.

Scrutiny is one thiing. Accusations, filth, ad hominem, threats, lying, and twisting of the facts, and invasion of privacy do not constitute scrutiny.

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Mr. Shaw,

Will you be willing to submit your identification to the mods of this forum? I for one am very skeptical that you are who you say you are.

Thank you,
CF

Originally posted by CameronFox
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Mr. Shaw,

Will you be willing to submit your identification to the mods of this forum? I for one am very skeptical that you are who you say you are.

Thank you,
CF

I have already identified myself.

Thank you,
JGS

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One thing I have noticed about internet forums on which conspiracy theorists do most of the posting is this. The CTs do not care about what the truth might be. They are much more interested in discussing information and theories, no matter how impossible and preposterous, that deliver the kicks they are seeking. Look at this thread. Somebody with real knowledge comes along and posts; he gets denounced and banned. That is true to CT philosophy, a point of view totally antithetical to the truth.

Originally posted by Jailhouserock
Persons I told about the coming attacks of 9-11 in varying degrees of detail, beginning around September of 1997, and continuing to and through the night of September 10, 2001.

Why didn't you warn the pilots of the 4 affected flights?

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
One thing I have noticed about internet forums on which conspiracy theorists do most of the posting is this. The CTs do not care about what the truth might be. They are much more interested in discussing information and theories, no matter how impossible and preposterous, that deliver the kicks they are seeking. Look at this thread. Somebody with real knowledge comes along and posts; he gets denounced and banned. That is true to CT philosophy, a point of view totally antithetical to the truth.

So says the anonymous person. If I understand correctly, the OP had contact with people who were the alleged terrorists or people that had contact with the alleged terrorists and the OP even instructed those on what to do and not to do, i.e. aided and assisted. If it all were true, I don't think he would be sitting there at a computer typing a story to everyone.

OK Bonez. You CT posters are all the same. Your ageda center around invalidating what others have to say, and in order to pursue your unethical little passions you ignore whatever information might get in the way of doing your underhanded thing, and you twist information you can in order to pursue it. For example, the OP said there was a lot more to the story than is posted here, specifically 54,000 words, and any conclusions reached here from this little bit of information would be hasty and general at best. But you ignore that, and post a negative opinion of the OP and his story. The OP also said it had never been substantiated who his correspondents were in Saudi Arabia, or if they had ever had any connection with 9-11 at all. But here again, you only want to put people down. You just ignore whatever it is people say, and continue on with your negative opinions.

You also come across with an "if, then" subjunction which is nothing more than your mental conception of the way you believe the world should operate. How old are you anyway? I hope you are not a mature adult. If you are seventeen, eighteen or younger, and relatively inexperienced, I can understand your point of view. If you are thirty or older and well educated, all I can say is that your thinking does not speak well for humanity.

If the OP found out about the attacks, and told all those people, don't you think it was also incumbent upon those people to contact the relevant authorities. Or, perhaps they were people such as yourself who are out on a personal mission of invalidating others, and did with that information they were given then what you are doing with it now, ignoring it, invalidating it, and attacking the messenger.

Another thing. What happened on September 11, 2001 was an act of war.
Your own government and its military and police forces committed acts that provoked those retaliatory strikes on 9-11.