Spate of UFO's being reported to U.K Talk Radio, now.

I take it the zealots have all but shut up about their chinese lanterns now someone else posted a video of them from Youtube. Hmmm.

Wow this is cool, I can relate: me and about fifteen of my friends saw two orange lights down very low around the very minutes of entering into 2009. We were out the minutes before and after, shooting some fireworks.

Myself and two of my close friends were talking about it.

1: "Oh look at that chopper.. and look there's another one!"
2: "Hah, they can't be choppers, just look at how slow they are moving... look one even reversed its direction. I bet they are just lanterns."
3: "I don't think a frail lantern would sustain such a stable position in these winds. And yea, now one of them are even moving a bit downwards. As I belive lanterns would rise as they are filled with hot air, right?"
2: "Hmm well I guess you are right, they are not that far away yet I hear no sound that I'd think come from those objects"
3: "The others has moved in already, let's go, my ass will soon fall off in this cold"

That's all we talked about it. Never thought about it until I saw this thread. Haha, well well..

Edit: These were seen in Sweden (as I live there mkay).



[edit on 2-1-2009 by Clear]

reply to post by KIRKSTERUK


You cannot categorically say anything about something that you didn't see. You really need to shut up already your posts don't add anything to the discussion and it is annoying that they all end with a laughing smiley. Where is a moderator when we need one?

-rrr

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by Jay-in-ARThe idea of Chinese lanterns circling one another and dropping orbs out of themselves is ridiculous.

Not really, it depends on what the witness could see of them.

Imagine that there are four Chinese lanterns, but because of their relative positions, the witness only sees two. While they are moving, and although keeping their relative positions, the positions when seen by the witness change (and this is more noticeable for closer objects), so it may look like the objects are moving about themselves. Also, two light in the same line will look as just one light, and if one drops it may look like it was one light dropping another.

So I think that the Chinese lantern explanation is not that far fetched.

 

 

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by LucidDreamer85

 

No, alcohol doesn't make you hallucinate. But it certainly CAN make you misinterpret what you ARE seeing.

Alcohol causes hallucinations, but usually when an alcoholic stops drinking (the problem is the withdrawal), so we can consider that, for this situation, alcohol would not be a cause for hallucination.

Also, they could have been lanterns that were tied with strings and then some strings broke off as time went by. No easy way to tell from the video either way.

-rrr

These lights were seen in Finland too. A few videos of them were even shown in the national news, they said experts believe them to be satellites or meteorites, But they didn't mention anything about chinese lanterns or emergency rockets or anything like that.

In my opinion, judging from the videos, it was fairly clear they were not lanterns or satellites, since satellites would not appear that bright and clear when filmed and the way they flew did definately not look like a lantern.

However, I thought of: That it is still plausible that it may be those lanterns drifting. Due to from what I remember witnesses saw them around midnight on newyears eve - around the world.

Since we have different timezones they may very well be set ablaze around midnight relative to the timezone. Maybe why people saw them very close to +-midnight.

But! More data on when and where would be very helpful to either consider this or rule it out.

reply to post by Phage

The UFO Orbs are a reality in the sky of Planet Earth. Of all the sightings out there phage, these are the ones that time and time again appear throughout the planet, recorded since the Star of David.

reply to post by Rapacity


ME, MY Wife and two kids saw 3 strange orange lights over essex, about 00.30 hrs on 1st jan. Definitly not fireworks or conventional aircraft.

They seemed too bright to be laterns. Two of the three were close together and one was about a mile away from the other two. They all suddenly faded and disapeared at the same time, which seems unlikey if they were laterns. Add to that the numerous similar sightings in the same period over the U.K, and I'd say they were something very out of the ordinary.

I wanted to go back and borrow my sister in laws 10m pixels 18 x zoom camera but my wife was getting scared and did not want me to leave her and th kids. I am really kicking myself now.

My gut feeling (and my wife reaction) having seen them tells me they were something supernatural.

reply to post by KIRKSTERUK


With respects in return, maybe we have a misunderstanding?
I took contention with your flat out CLAIM that the third video in question was a group of Chinese Lanterns.
Normally, it wouldn't have been a problem at all. As I see stuff like this often here. However, your arrogance crossed me the wrong way whenever you went on to say, in essence, that you were "above" watching the second video because of a piece of music you found distasteful (as if you couldn't simply mute the audio)...

It is a classic tactic. Ridicule the opposition without anything substantive.
The Chinese Lantern video you posted in response to my critique of your claim was a joke at best!

Maybe YOU need to reread and see exactly WHERE the argument came from. It isn't nice when the ridiculing is turned around, is it?

Edit to add: As for other examples of Chinese Lanterns... Yeah, Chinese Lanterns ARE often mistaken for "spaceships"... Or whatever these people believe they are UFOs.. Government Black Projects.

But in the case of your claim, about the third object in question being a group of Chinese Lanterns. I'm sorry, but that was bogus.



[edit on 2-1-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

yeah i seen 2 orange lights tonight aswell,walking bak home with my friend

iam based in nottingham so i really would like to know what this is if other countrys have seen it the day before.

reply to post by KIRKSTERUK


Did you catch that flash across the left hand side of the screen at about 3.36? Don't know what that was but it was fast!

Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by Rapacity

Perhaps a few filmed test releases of Chinese Lanterns should be done by ATS so that we all have a reference point to check against. Could even be used as a bit of a quiz: lanterns or UFO's?

Happy hunting everyone

One of dozens:

A lot more

[edit on 1/2/2009 by Phage]

Awesome Video!

Thanks for the posting!

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by KIRKSTERUK

 

With respects in return, maybe we have a misunderstanding?
I took contention with your flat out CLAIM that the third video in question was a group of Chinese Lanterns.
Normally, it wouldn't have been a problem at all. As I see stuff like this often here. However, your arrogance crossed me the wrong way whenever you went on to say, in essence, that you were "above" watching the second video because of a piece of music you found distasteful (as if you couldn't simply mute the audio)...

It is a classic tactic. Ridicule the opposition without anything substantive.
The Chinese Lantern video you posted in response to my critique of your claim was a joke at best!

Maybe YOU need to reread and see exactly WHERE the argument came from. It isn't nice when the ridiculing is turned around, is it?

Edit to add: As for other examples of Chinese Lanterns... Yeah, Chinese Lanterns ARE often mistaken for "spaceships"... Or whatever these people believe they are UFOs.. Government Black Projects.

But in the case of your claim, about the third object in question being a group of Chinese Lanterns. I'm sorry, but that was bogus.



[edit on 2-1-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

So what - you're saying the third video is a legit UFO? Because I don't know what you're whining about. The video isn't anything special. Anyone who viewed the footage provided by Youtube which another kind poster released on this thread, can see a link between the grouping and colouring of the objects. It's CERTAINLY *NOT* a UFO, be it chinese lantern, red arrows, military. Yes they do look like chinese lanterns. Even others on this thread admitted it. Open your eyes dude.

reply to post by KIRKSTERUK


No.
If you had actually read my responses in this thread, I agreed with another poster that the third video, the one in question, was undoubtedly a formation of planes.
Don't put words in peoples' mouths.

reply to post by Rapacity


strange but true I witnessed a orange oval orb travelling north west at 900 feet and turned and headed south west on new years eve when no aircraft in the sky ,it was silent and hovered for a couple of seconds ,I thought it was a flare but flares don`t move and change direction an accelerate upward into high altitude clouds ,whats going on,weird. I tryedto photo it on myy mobile but by the time I had deleted files It had gone ,only A pinhead in the distance.So it must be true I`ve Seen one?

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


Regardless of personalities, the use of music in UFO videos is a discredit to the field. Every time music is attached to UFO evidence, it degrades the evidence and the field.

If you want it to be taken seriously, do not attach music.
If you want to sell it and make money, pick spooky music.

Only third world journalists and UFO reporters attach music, and both uses are viewed the same way by scientists. It is an attempt to manipulate beyond the evidence. It is manipulative.

And while there are Chineese Lanterns out there, arm chair skeptics are a waste of time. Ignore their posts. THeir purpose is not to apply The Razor. Their purpose is to maintain their world view at all costs, and to tell themselves otherwise.

Originally posted by gringoboy
reply to post by Rapacity

 

strange but true I witnessed a orange oval orb travelling north west at 900 feet and turned and headed south west on new years eve when no aircraft in the sky ,it was silent and hovered for a couple of seconds ,I thought it was a flare but flares don`t move and change direction an accelerate upward into high altitude clouds ,whats going on,weird. I tryedto photo it on myy mobile but by the time I had deleted files It had gone ,only A pinhead in the distance.So it must be true I`ve Seen one?

Chinese lanterns. Pretty much official now. But the conclusion will still hang in the balance because the papers never debunk their stories at a future date. This is how the UFO coverage has always worked to produce hype and more disinformation. You can report the UFO sighting but not debunk, because that'd be too boring and non-controversial!

[edit on 3-1-2009 by KIRKSTERUK]

reply to post by gringoboy


You forgot to tell where you were in the World.

It would help.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


This sounds very similar to one particular report i read, the only difference was that all the lights were "red", moving at a steady pace from west to east towards the Essex Coastline, where again there were numerous report from people living near the Coast.

Is it possible that the lights of orange & red are / were the same or a different set of lights?
Did they change colour whilst traveling?

the 2 i seen were bright orange,,at first i thought they were stars and found it strange they were bright orange,,then i noticed they were moving ,,then they jst grew dimmer and dimmer until i couldnt see them