No Civilian Casualties In Gaza!

The guys that launch rockets against Israel are civilians. The guys that the US has been fighting in Iraq are civilians. They guys that the coalition are fighting in Afghanistan are civilians.

The suicide bombers that have plagued Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel, are civilians.

Civilians, apparently are the ones initiating all this turmoil.

Therefore, logic dictates that to stop the attacks, the more civilians you kill, the better off you are.

So I have no problem with "civilian" deaths. The more the merrier.

reply to post by dooper


As usual your logic is flawed.

A civilian is anyone not a member of a)the armed forces,b)the fire or police force and c)does not belong to a particular group or engage in a particular activity.

Terrorist and militant organizations come under group c.




[edit on 31-12-2008 by DantesLost]

reply to post by DantesLost


But since one cannot differentiate under combat conditions, then all civilians are fair game.

The alternative is for these clowns to wear recognizable uniforms. Since these men are cowards, and conduct warfare as civilians, then civilians are fair game, and the day they've had enough, they'll either require uniforms or they'll get the hell out.

reply to post by dooper


You cannot tell the difference between men in the mountains with rockets and children leaving school?

Dear me,you should get that checked y'know.

Either that or go to Israel and join their government.
You can be the new minister in charge of religious genocide.




[edit on 31-12-2008 by DantesLost]

the irony is on the news today in the UK it showed plenty of those civillian casualties that apparently dont exist having to be evacuated to isreal for treatment in an attempt to win back some pr with the international community

and most of them were kids

reply to post by Solomons

I like her, and she is telling the truth. I'd like to take her to lunch. Good job sweetie, and keep up the good work. Kickin azz and takin names with those pally cockroaches. Go Team.

What a load of crud...

www.boston.com...

(p.s. off topic - I'm really surprise the boston updated their gallery with these set of picture, since they weren't going to update anything til jan. 2, I guess they want to inform the public)

Yes there were, causualites please read:

U.N. humanitarian chief John Holmes said the death toll was estimated at 320-390 and the number of injured at 1,500-1,900. Between 20 percent and 25 percent of the dead are either women or children, said Karen Abu Zayd, U.N. Relief and Works Agency commissioner.

news.yahoo.com...

Originally posted by noobfun

Originally posted by rightwingnut
israel's government is sworn to protect them from that type of enslavement.

so to prevent a holocaust they have locked up gaza refusing them enough power, medicine water food and go in and kill a bunch when ever they feel like it?

isnt that exactly LIKE the holocaust?

only palestine has managed to get some weapons in to at least pretend to defend its self

casuing genocide to prevent genocide is an absurd statement

Originally posted by noobfun

Originally posted by rightwingnut
israel's government is sworn to protect them from that type of enslavement.

so to prevent a holocaust they have locked up gaza refusing them enough power, medicine water food and go in and kill a bunch when ever they feel like it?

isnt that exactly LIKE the holocaust?

only palestine has managed to get some weapons in to at least pretend to defend its self

casuing genocide to prevent genocide is an absurd statement

Unfortunately we have a humanitarian outlook from the outside but when that happens to your race it will never end. Israel is attacking arab because they are arab and vise versa. Killing is racist, murder. Now, how does anyone propose to separate two of them? This is a centured racist battle. We have seen peace talks, end in horrible bloodshed that is by both sides and reckless. We will be appalled at the conduct of both. That's how they fight tit for tat.

[edit on 2-1-2009 by rightwingnut]

Originally posted by kozmoFolks, I am pleased to state that I believe that we are [finally] seeing the beginning of the end of the Jewish state of Israel - and none too soon!

Imadamnnutjob IS THAT YOU? Sorry if I misspelled your name I can spell Iranian names very well, anyways I wish you luck in your next election and allah ahkbar Mr. President...

Why would people think they can take down what God clearly stated wouldn't come down? I wish them Luck in their Endeavors and if history is any clue to the future I would say they are going to need some luck if not the hand of Satan himself to even look like they can wipe Israel off the map...

Ground Assault is on in Gaza, CNN is reporting right now. There won't be any civilian casualties in this part of the conflict either. You see the palestinians are a terrorist cult of death. They can not be civilians if they are actively fighting Israel, because they are not wearing a uniform does not mean they are not the enemy and are combatants. I wish Israel nothing but God Speed in this newest conflict and I hope they make the pain so bad on the palestinians and the cost so dear that they decide to take the peace deal and statehood and decide to live side b side with Israel in PEACE. I know killing all the terrorists will be a good start to that peace, and I know that those peaceful poor palestinians they talk about in some media reports will happily welcome the new peace...

Nuttin but luck baby!

Originally posted by rightwingnut
Yuz just don't get. Terrorist are born terrorist. The hamas recklessly shot missles into Israel and Israel after centuries of fighting is religated to the genocide of that aggressor. The right of zionism is kept in check by the existence of palestine. However if palestinians cannot live normally without attacking Israel they will be genocided. This is why the pm,s attitude is like it is. Remember the holocaust, israel's government is sworn to protect them from that type of enslavement.

Who starred this?

Centuries? Are we all stupid now? Crikey...

Genocide is the talk of tyrants. nothing substantiates it.

Originally posted by dooper
The guys that launch rockets against Israel are civilians. The guys that the US has been fighting in Iraq are civilians. They guys that the coalition are fighting in Afghanistan are civilians.

The suicide bombers that have plagued Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel, are civilians.

Civilians, apparently are the ones initiating all this turmoil.

Therefore, logic dictates that to stop the attacks, the more civilians you kill, the better off you are.

So I have no problem with "civilian" deaths. The more the merrier.

That has to be the most logical post I think I've ever read on ATS.

Well done, I do hope it makes people think, because it really hits the nail on the head.

reply to post by skyblueff0



I can clearly see casualties on both sides, more so in Gaza. There will be
some at ATS that will claim it is all staged.

thank you for sharing the link.


Peace soon for ALL of them

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Talk about twisting facts! She NEVER said in this interview that there are no Palestinian civilians killed. Creating a lie and placing it in other person mouth is cheap propaganda.
Ironic thing is that she does say that there could be civilian casualties, Israel tries to avoid it but it is not possible. And it somehow gets twisted into "no civilian casualties"???????
Then another LIE about bombed school - show source. I understand that some people will twist truth or even lie to promote their causes. But in this thread those are not Zionists/Israelis/Pro-Israelis. it is actually the other side.
A) Where does she say - no civilian casualties. What time?
B) What school was bombed?

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


She says 'no civilians' at about 1.13/14.When the journalist is talking about the death toll.

reply to post by DantesLost


I just watched that vid and you are correct. Vizni does state "No civilians" Also note the date on the headlines - December 22nd - 5 days prior to the air strike.


res

reply to post by DantesLost


Journalists says:...Aproximatly third of "it?" is civilians..
Livni: no civilians.
Notice - she does not say that there are no civilians when journalist says:
"What concerns the outside world .... is the civilian deaths. The death toll is apporaching 300 "..
And only once he gets to third of it - she says it. So she means that number of civilians is not third of total amount of casualties.
It is funny how those two seconds are taken out of context and critisized but half a minute (in the same video) where she talks about impossibility of not killing civilians in such operations is not noticed.

Like " But we cannot avoid completely any type of civil casualties". Kind of ruins the whole story, does not it? 1:52.


[edit on 2-1-2009 by ZeroKnowledge]

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


In the space of 2 minutes she contradicts herself twice.

1)No civilians is followed by some civilians.
2)Surprise attack is followed by,the government called the civilians in the area.

So which is it?
No civilian casualties or some?
It was a surprise attack or they warned people?

Originally posted by dooper
Civilians, apparently are the ones initiating all this turmoil.

Therefore, logic dictates that to stop the attacks, the more civilians you kill, the better off you are.

So I have no problem with "civilian" deaths. The more the merrier.

Again, reminds me of something World War II-related. American officials believed that Japanese civilians worshipped the Emperor, so all of them would die for him. This was one of the justifications for bombing (and, in doing so, killing) at least a million Japanese civilians.