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Originally posted by Jonna
The obvious just hit me.
A tree is by all acounts alive and may even feels pain as I have heard, but probably does not have consciousness (at least in a way that we can tell). So is a star alive? It goes through a 'life cycle' just like all other things that we consider to be alive. It is born, grows, decays (uses up its energy) and then dies (becomes inactive). So using that logic, I am going to have to change my answer to reflect that, by our current definition, it is indeed alive.
Originally posted by Jonna
The obvious just hit me.
A tree is by all acounts alive and may even feels pain as I have heard, but probably does not have consciousness (at least in a way that we can tell). So is a star alive? It goes through a 'life cycle' just like all other things that we consider to be alive. It is born, grows, decays (uses up its energy) and then dies (becomes inactive). So using that logic, I am going to have to change my answer to reflect that, by our current definition, it is indeed alive.
Originally posted by LuDaCrIs
THATS RIDICULOUS!!!!!...A tree doesnt have conciuosness or pain!!....wat the hell are u talking about????....you need a brain or some sort of organ or something to process input. As far as i am concerned, trees are just a mechanism to convert CO2 into oxygen. Eventho they are made of cells, this still makes no sense, since cells dont think or feel pain.
RIDICULOUS...
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
Sorry not alot to add to the thread, But I just want to say thanks for starting a topic other thatn Bush, Kerry, and Iraq. And take my mind to a place where these problem are are a grain of sand on the level we are talking.
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
BTW Just to throw something in the pot, Could a Star be like a river, or body of water. Where it gives life, but it self is not alive.
Originally posted by Jonna
What�s more, the researchers who studied this response had a rather bizarre way of measuring the presence of ethylene � by listening for it. To be precise, they captured the gas in a bell jar and fired lasers at it, which resonated with the molecules and emitted sound at a particular frequency. Upon seeing this, it wasn�t long before scientists and journalists alike were calling these sounds �screams�, and suddenly this response seemed a lot more like pain as we know it!"
www.sciencenet.org.uk...
Origginally posted by AlnilamOmega
This picture is for indirect inspiration (meaning, it could be a real supernova [70% probable], a random decision by the star to detonate [probably unlikely], or it could be an artificial detonation of some sort [30%, judging by observably erratic jumps in luminosity wavelenghts and magnitude])
It may not be a coverup, but in speculation, it could be a result of not having observed the star earlier than the organization did.
Stars that really seem alive to me are Binary stars which feature a constant transfer of particles between the two, which sometimes reminds me of a mother nursing her child. Refer to the picture below for an example of a relationship in a binary star system between the "parent star" and its companion.
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
BTW Just to throw something in the pot, Could a Star be like a river, or body of water. Where it gives life, but it self is not alive.