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Undeniable 10 Evidence's of Global Warming Now, it is time to provide the evidence of man made global warming, Scientific American has compiled the list of the top ten places in the world affected by global warming. 1.Darfur, Sudan- Until the rains failed in Darfur, the region's pastoralists lived amicably with the settled farmers. But with the land crippled by a decades-long drought, the region was no longer able to support both. Farmers began to fence off their fields, and clashes broke out between sedentary and nomadic tribes. The reason- So what caused the rains to fail? When climate scientists studied the drought, they discovered that rising temperatures in the tropical and southern oceans had combined with cooling in the North Atlantic to disrupt the African monsoons. The roots of the drying in Darfur lay in changes to the global climate....................
Originally posted by Marmota monax
Yes I do. Here are some references for you. (It was easy, try Google)
100 THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT DDT
As the Third World now knows, there is no ready substitute for DDT.
Safe DDT [ TIME MAGAZINE ]
So Dude, you might want to Google "Malaria Deaths" . Billions have died to date and DDT is the most effective treatment. Would you advocate the use of screening and better housing in exchange for preventable deaths?
Wait, don't answer, I'm sure I'd be disappointed.
Breaking News, WHO has made some changes ! They Now Advocate DDT in the Prevention of Malaria Deaths !
Anyhow, the prevalence of Malaria has been a global issue over the years throughout the world and to conclude that a perceived warming is the only cause is most likely in error. Try searching the history of Malaria.
Originally posted by Marmota monax
Answer, yes I did "happen to notice" OP's post. Diversionary at best and not sound reasoning. Try checking the suggested search term in the original text and also review the statement above.
How does the spread of malaria in Italy have anything to do with malaria being present in cooler regions as mentioned?
And OP's opinion supersedes clearly documented history and makes the point mute? Really?
Originally posted by Marmota monax
I'll give you a pass on the name calling.
1. CO2 and Warming are tied at the hip, no matter waht the cause. Many sources feel the CO2 rises is after the fact and can be graphed as such. Said another way, when the temperature rises this causes CO2 levels to rise after the fact. I'd urge you to check it out here Link
Originally posted by Marmota monax
A rocket scientist would be open to looking at this closer without jumping to conclusions.
Originally posted by Marmota monax
More to BluegrassRevolutionary
I have done my best in this tread and others like it to dispel the myth of the medieval warming period. This period is also known as the Little Climactic Optimum. The problem with the idea of the MWP is that it only takes into account temperature records present in Europe. You see, when determining global temperature levels it is necessary to use temperature data from many sources on the planet. Essentially, the data set is too small to make any conclusions. However, luckily scientists do have a more accurate prediction about the global temperature during medieval times. By taking ice core readings and doing tree ring studies on a global scale, we know that the global temperature during medieval times were comparable to those present in the early to mid 20th century and thus, less than they are today. Essentially, the idea of a medieval warming period is a FARCE and should not be believed.
Thanks for the clarification. Consider the issue dispelled. You should also notify the many authors of books concerning the Medieval Warming Period, the Vikings who clearly benefited from the warming period, and all other parties who clearly benefited from this warming period. Oh, and let's not forget the historians who have been apparently wrong to date.
Also, could you respond to and summarily disprove the "Little Ice Age"? I'll alert the publishers for you.
Originally posted by Marmota monax
Originally posted by Marmota monax ::Mars is warming too, as is Pluto, yet to date, no humans have been found at these locations
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
This idea is quite controversial and has little data to support it. Again here, given that we have only recently had the ability to gauge the temperature of other planets in our solar system and lack an ability to gauge historical temperatures, we really have no idea about the cyclical nature of their temperatures (unlike our own planet)::
On rounds this morning the Doctor proclaimed : "The patient in room 9 has the same symptoms as the patient in the bed next to him. All the tests to date are very similar. He may follow a similar progression of the disease process. Wait, let's not even consider that, cancel all testing, it's not worth further consideration, and while you are at it discharge the patient."
Follow?
Your attacks seem to be centered around the premise that skeptics such as myself are somehow uninformed or do not qualify to have an opinion other than yours. Maybe (conjecture here) this is in an effort to support the "Green Movement".
Surprisingly, I once was fully on board for man made global warming, but after reading a few books, spending some time on the web researching and watching the avalanche of scientists who once supported global warming voluntarily abandon ship, I became a skeptic.
I also heat my house 70% with solar heat, drive 2 very economical vehicles and support the "Green Movement" weekly with my hard earned money.
The global warming debate will continue, even after your declaration of the issue being closed.
Lastly, Mr. Gore seems to be heavily invested "financially" in carbon trading, so I am not convinced he can speak on the topic objectively.
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
Essentially, the OP's post stated that as temperatures rise, mosquito populations will be able to thrive in cooler areas not accustomed to having them. As far as what it has to do with the spread of malaria in Italy, Italy is one of the those countries that is not accustomed to having large populations of malaria carrying mosquitoes due to its cooler climate. However, again, as the temperature in Italy rises, so too will the mosquito population, thus increasing malaria infections.
Many lay people regard malaria as a purely tropical disease. However, the distribution of malaria used to be world-wide. Today, it still occurs in some 100 countries. The situation varies from region to region. Until 1938 there was still P. vivax malaria ("polderkoorts") in Belgium, and in the Netherlands as late as 1958, although there was an unexplained (possibly autochtonous) case of P. malariae infection in a child in Zealand in 1969. The WHO declared the Netherlands officially malaria-free only in 1970.
P. vivax has the widest distribution area (previously as far as London, Norway, Denmark, New York, southern Canada and even Siberia
Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by Zaphod58
While I agree that there may be a cycle the planet is going through, I strongly believe that mankind is making things worse by polluting and deforesting the planet.
Originally posted by peacejet
5. Great Barrier Reef, Australia-
The carbon-di-oxide released into the atmosphere, gets absorbed in the sea water and reducing the Ph, thus increasing its acidity.
The first to feel the impact are the creatures of the sea that use calcium carbonate to form their shells and exoskeletons. The acidic (or actually less alkaline) water wears away at crabs, mollusks and sea snails. Coral reefs face a double whammy as the changing ocean chemistry adds to the stress of unusually warm water. Australia's Great Barrier Reef lost an estimated 10 percent of its coral to mass bleaching in 1998 and 2002.
The reason-
we've added enough carbon to shift the pH of the world's waters from 8.2 to 8.1.
Originally posted by peacejet
Now, it is time to provide the evidence of man made global warming, Scientific American has compiled the list of the top ten places in the world affected by global warming.
...........................
5. Great Barrier Reef, Australia-
The carbon-di-oxide released into the atmosphere, gets absorbed in the sea water and reducing the Ph, thus increasing its acidity.
The first to feel the impact are the creatures of the sea that use calcium carbonate to form their shells and exoskeletons. The acidic (or actually less alkaline) water wears away at crabs, mollusks and sea snails. Coral reefs face a double whammy as the changing ocean chemistry adds to the stress of unusually warm water. Australia's Great Barrier Reef lost an estimated 10 percent of its coral to mass bleaching in 1998 and 2002.
The reason-
we've added enough carbon to shift the pH of the world's waters from 8.2 to 8.1.