Will Russia Attack Israel ?

Israel is a cohert with the US and UK and their behavior wins no God on their side. Only the peacemakers and those trying to stop nwo, and all the oppression of children on this planet, of every nationality, wins God's approval.

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reply to post by mystiq


Whos God might that be ? I didn't know you had direct contact with God.
I thought this was reserved for .... lets see Jesus or Moses Or Mohhamed, or Budda etc. , and I haven't read them telling anyone about the US and Uk or whatever you have just come up with. Maybe this is a made up religion of your own? Sounds like a war mongger religion to me ,persecuting other countries because you say so. Hmmmmmmmm
Proof please?


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God, is not a the war mongler many think God is, but pure and radiant love, and very patient as we evolve into similar beings. Anyone that would ever harm a child is a lower dimensional psychotic beast. Any religion that promotes such is satanic.

If that is so what about coutries that get women and children to strap bombs to there bodies to kill other women and children?
These Islamic countries don"t seperate religion and state it is their law this is a fact.
What about Russia where a person was persecuted for believing in any religion. You weren't even suppose to believe in God in Russia.
I don't know how you think you can put down some countries and state God says so this seems like a very ignorant and child like opinion. Who are you to make statements like this with no facts zero none whatsoever.

I really feel as though you are very ignorant when it comes to the truths.
Nobody would take you seriously just becuase you make a statement and expect people to go along with what you say because you show no facts.

Your opinion seems very young indeed.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Russia won't act alone and just suddenly attack Israel. They'll need provocation first. A few years ago I read that Russia had promised Iran during construction of their nuclear reactor that Russian troops would be used to protect it should it be attacked. Of course I think this was mainly a shot at the Isralis who had attacked Iraq's nuclear power plant suddenly in the 1980s. This fits though since its perfectly ok to make promises, another thing to keep them between countries (I'm not firing that at anyone, its a neutral statement).

One other poster said that the surface fleet movements were unimportant or actually gave evidence to why we shouldn't be worried. To this I disagree. Russia still has many nuclear submarines (both of the attack and Ballistic Missile variety unless I'm outdated) which could already be in place now waiting underwater with payloads of cruise missiles. They would be an effective first strike platform to disable Radar for an Air attack either from Russia or via refueling points in Iran (either way there would have to be some strikes on a NATO nation to take out their radar, or heavy jamming of these radars, both possibly construed as acts of war). An Air assault would be the easiest and quickest way for Russia to attack Israel in accordance with their promise to Iran and would be devastating to Israel.

Sure Russia may be trying to get the truth out, but just because they are trying to do so doesn't mean they aren't going to attack back if one of their allies is assaulted by another country.

Anyway, thought I would throw a couple cents into the debate. Now if I can just find my wallet to tip the porter....

reply to post by Sir Solomon

Excellent post,thank you for answering the original question . It really bugs me when people start to rant and rave about something totally off topic and bring in their spin on how they are holier then the rest and are some way intouch with God blah blah blah and make a statement that has nothing to do with the original question.

Once again the question was dose anyone think that Russia will attack Israel?
I think you have done the best in answering what you think based on the original question,excellent reply.

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Originally posted by bigheadjay
reply to post by mystiq

 

Kind of like the way Israel had no option but to stand up and defend its people. Lets not forget that Russia took over alot of countries after world war 2 and ask some of the people that lived in these countries how they were treated under the old Soviet government.
I think you will find that they killed many innocent people of other nations at the same time taken away many of their freedoms ,such as freedom of religion,freedom of the press and oh ya those great rock groups from Russia ask a russian what would have happened to them 30 years ago. The only reason the Soviet Union collapsed is because they lost the cold war. The old saying a leopard dosen't lose its spots.

If you are old enough to remember which wasn't long ago you would understand this.If you are old enough and don't understand this I suggest do alot of research.

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Actually that was Stalin by the way, and he came from the Georgia area, was of the same stock as Israel, and was supported by the Rotschild's. There was a good thread on this around the time of the Georgia war on ATS, with some very good reference links. I'd look into that if I were you.


Edit to add: This was a very good thread! www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I guess after Stalin died his ghost suppossedly continued to oppress and murder its citizens? Stalin was also the one that invaded Afganistan the first time or killed the people in ceckoslovakia,or east Germany or many number of countries including their own .Or what about these Islamic countries that if you as a women lived in would be a secound class citzen .
May be you should watch this video with all your concern for childrens rights and tell me when western countries fight for freedom they should just let this go on . Do some research before you quote others without facts.
www.youtube.com...
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Once again the lie that the Bible states that Israel is "God's chosen people" is brought up here with the implication that in a war between Russia/China and Israel that "Israel is on God's side".

This is a pure false teaching of what the Bible says and is one of the main reasons why the US is basically run by Israel via proxy these days. Because of all the "Christians" in the US that believe this nonsense.

The Bible actually states that Israel would be punished after the Jews crucified Christ. It also states that The Antichrist would actually be on the same side as Israel in the end times.

Enough already with this false Satanic teaching that the Bible says God is on Israel's side.

reply to post by Red Cloak


Can anyone stick to the original question? I'm getting tired of replying to people that make statements without facts.

Originally posted by bigheadjay
reply to post by Red Cloak

 

Can anyone stick to the original question? I'm getting tired of replying to people that make statements without facts.

I did not do that. My post is stating true Biblical prophecy and not a made up one that was being mentioned in the thread. As for your question about Russia and Israel - the Bible clearly talks about a war involving Iran/Russia/Europe/China and possibly also some other Asian countries like maybe Japan and North Korea and such coming to war with Israel.

So according to the Bible........yes it will happen.

reply to post by Red Cloak


Show me in the bible were it says that? Also to think that God would back two communist countries that don't believe in God were do you get this lol.?

Originally posted by bigheadjay
reply to post by Red Cloak

 

Show me in the bible were it says that? Also to think that God would back two communist countries that don't believe in God were do you get this lol.?

The Bible clearly tells people what to do with mockers and scoffers of the truth of the word. And that is to ignore them and move on.

BTW, neither Russia nor China are communist countries.



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CHINA ---The Communist Party of China (CPC) (simplified Chinese: 中国共产党; traditional Chinese: 中國共產黨; pinyin: Zhōngguó Gòngchǎndǎng), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), is the founding and the ruling political party of the People's Republic of China and the world's largest political party. Its paramount position as the supreme political authority in China, the Party is realized as the supreme power through control of all state apparatus and of the legislative process.[2] The Communist Party of China was founded in 1921, and came to rule all of mainland China after defeating its rival the Kuomintang (KMT) in the Chinese Civil War. The party's 70 million members[3] constitute 5.5% of the total population of mainland China.

Sounds pretty communist to me huh?

As for russia they may say they aren't communist but when is putin going to have honest elections? Guess what putin was a former high ranking KGB agent you know what that is?

As for you bringing up bible passages that you say are there ,heres one for you I unlike you won't make up
Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end."

Originally posted by bigheadjay
reply to post by Red Cloak

 

CHINA ---The Communist Party of China (CPC) (simplified Chinese: 中国共产党; traditional Chinese: 中國共產黨; pinyin: Zhōngguó Gòngchǎndǎng), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), is the founding and the ruling political party of the People's Republic of China and the world's largest political party. Its paramount position as the supreme political authority in China, the Party is realized as the supreme power through control of all state apparatus and of the legislative process.[2] The Communist Party of China was founded in 1921, and came to rule all of mainland China after defeating its rival the Kuomintang (KMT) in the Chinese Civil War. The party's 70 million members[3] constitute 5.5% of the total population of mainland China.

Sounds pretty communist to me huh?

As for russia they may say they aren't communist but when is putin going to have honest elections? Guess what putin was a former high ranking KGB agent you know what that is?

As for you bringing up bible passages that you say are there ,heres one for you I unlike you won't make up
Not only are the people of Israel special and God's chosen people, but the land is also special. In Deuteronomy 11:12, we read, "It is a land the LORD your God cares for; the eyes of the LORD your God are continually on it from the beginning of the year to its end."

Communism is an economic system. That is economics 101 stuff. Neither country has an economic system based on communism for years and years now. Your Bible reference has no bearing. As I said God made portends to punish Israel for the crucifixion of Christ.

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Communism is communism,just because the communist leaders do what's in their best interest economically dosen't change the facts . Go and break a law in one of these countries then tell me about your economics 101 lol.

If communism is an economic system go to tianamen square and try and protest with a few people see what happens. Then you'll see. Better yet go to China and try to get this site on the web and then if you do ,big if ,write something about the government. I don't know if you just listen to things on the news and just selectively come up with your ideas but try to be a little objective when it comes to your ideas other wise your just a sheep like the vast majority.

As for your bible passage saying not to mock the word I just produced a bible passage did I not ? Or are you Ignoring the bible that you quote or maybe you are doing the same with this as you have done with the communism bit. Maybe you are taking things that only suit what you think is right without facts . Before you bring stuff up you should produce facts to verify them or are people suppose to agree with you just because you said it?

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Russia and Israel signed a deal on mutual visa-free travel
all israelian citizen will go to russia before they attack 'em nice deal !

Originally posted by bigheadjay
reply to post by mystiq

 

I guess after Stalin died his ghost suppossedly continued to oppress and murder its citizens? Stalin was also the one that invaded Afganistan the first time or killed the people in ceckoslovakia,or east Germany or many number of countries including their own .Or what about these Islamic countries that if you as a women lived in would be a secound class citzen .
May be you should watch this video with all your concern for childrens rights and tell me when western countries fight for freedom they should just let this go on . Do some research before you quote others without facts.
www.youtube.com...
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Yeah, yet he was zionist stock and supported by the bloodlines, figures eh. Think of the deception the cold war played on the world. Just a game arranged by the zionists.

I'm really pleased with the Russian people, and the way they wish to wake us up to nwo, way more understanding in that country than in the US.



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Hello bigheadjay,

I googled ("russia attacks israel iran gaza") this thread on the bases of bible propecies, on the bases of which, after the rebirth of the state of Israel in 1948, I expect (since the eighties) an Russian(=Rosh, Mesech=Moscow and Tubal=Tobolsk)+Iranian(=Persia)+Libyan+... invasion of Israel which they will lose(!). Never before has the actual situation been more like the expected situation. The Biblical prophecies you are looking for can be found in Ezekiel 38 & 39. (please read these chapters carefully; please note that these are rather complicated prophecies with multiple layers and describing multiple events divided in time by nearly a 1000 years.) Take note that the translations are often incorrect: in verse 2 in the actual Hebrew it says "Prince of Rosh" instead of "wicked ruler". The connection with the completely impossible rebirth of a state after approx. 2000 years (namely Israel) is Ezekiel 37 where it speaks of this event (the dry bones coming to live; explanation is given in the same chapter). Remark: on the basis of other bible prophecies I and other born again Christians expect the state of Israel, which is NOT good in the eyes of God because they have rejected Him, Jesus, to make a covenant with a coming ruler of the returned Roman Empire (a.k.a. the European Union)(the Bible calls this "a covenant with death" Isaiah 28:14-16). Momentarily there is a statistical high probability that this might be the current president of France. (I expected on the basis of the Biblical prophecies for the E.U./Roman Empire to rise in power for a short time and the USA to loose its power, leaving the world unprotected against evil; don't get me wrong, the USA has its problems as well.)

URL for English Bible at mentioned passage: www.biblija.net...

For me it was very interesting to find someone who came to the same expectations I have (on the basis of the Biblical Prophecies combined with the political and military situation) but instead purely on the the political and military situation. Might be interesting for you to note that when the EU send out its fleet to Africa (the same very strange 'pirate situation' where almost all leading nations have sent their Navy) it was the first time in nearly 1500 years that a Roman fleet took to the high seas again (remember that the EU is founded on the declaration of Rome in 1958).

One last remark: the Bible is the only so called 'holy book' containing absolute accurate prophecies (about one third of the Bible!!). The reasons for this is that the God Who created the universe and us does NOT leave us just guessing for the truth. It can easely be proven which holy book is the real one. The main message that the real God gives us is: He created everything (science is beginning to get there also), men has become sinfull by making the wrong choices using his free will (something that God knew would happen and uses in His plan) , this explains the rotten situation the world is in, He Himself took the punishment for our sins by dying on the cross (predicted a.o. in Psalm 22, Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9:20-...), now we can be free of sin by accepting that we are sinfull, accept His payment for our sins and try to live according to His will. This will give us the right to be raised from the dead, the only thing that gives real meaning to our being. The reason behind this plan is that the Creator shows Himself to be absolutely good and loving and worthy of our praise whilst granting us a free will and a free choice. You can read about this a.o. in John chapter 3 and Romans 3:9-31.

Now, lets see what happens in the world...

T. (a Christian; no member of any denomination/organisation)