Masonic flooring at the birthplace of Jesus

When me and Elf agree you can rest assured its likely to right!

As you say, it was probably laid down by the Romans - Constantine's Mother Helena is the person who originally founded the Church of the Annunciation, although there were shrines of some sort there before she got to it. It has been destroyed and rebuilt by several different groups over the centuries, but none of them were masonic. While there is no relationship between the Knights Templar and freemasonry other than myth, even the mythical connection isn't there as the Knights Templar's church was never completed and subsequently destroyed anyways.

In many places in that area the ancient flooring is still preserved...so it wouldn't surprise me if it was a roman addition, although given the church's history of rebuilding I can't really tell.

[edit on 26-12-2008 by LowLevelMason]

I just want to make something clear for myself.
You keep stating masonry, in the lower case.
Now, most certainly the people who laid down the tile were masons, in the practical sense.
They probably also helped build the place.
However, it is also unlikely that the people who laid the tile and built the structures were Freemasons, since Freemasonry didn't come about until the 18th century.

Also, what tiles are you referring to exactly?
www.sacred-destinations.com...
imeu.net...
Having gone though several sites, I haven't been able to stumble over any of the checkered tiles.

Edit: To remove ginormous malfunctioning link.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by RuneSpider]

I didn't realize that I came off that way. I apologize for my rudeness. If I'm tense, trust that it isn't you or anyone on here's fault. Thanks for trying to help. I appreciate it.

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no problem but i gotta side w/RuneSpider, I been through several sites myself and like he said, no checkerboards patterns are being presented. so if you got some pictures you took or something - please post 'em.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by spikedmilk]

reply to post by spikedmilk Actually I saw the tiles on a History Channel documentary. I thought for sure there would have been pictures. Guess not. I will investigate the matter further.

Okay. I apologize to everyone that has taken interest in this thread. I made a boo boo. The flooring in question is not at the Church of the Nativity. It is within the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is also one of Christiianity's most sacred spots. Christ's burial tomb was allegedly discovered by Saint Helena, mother of the emperor Constantine, and she had a church erected on top of Christ's tomb. Inside of the church, there is a place known as the Tomb of Christ. And this is the entrance into it:







So instead of it being the BIRTHPLACE of Christ, here we see masonic flooring at the BURIAL CHAMBER of Christ. Still a very sacred spot.

Please post what anyone might think this means.

Well, since FreeMasonry emerged aroun the 1700s, I'm going to say that regular masons worked masonry in a building.
I think it means about as much as my dad getting a role of black and white linoleum for the bathroom and kitchen.

reply to post by RuneSpider Of course, you would see nothing of it, runespider. And if I'm not putting the "free" in front of the mason or forgetting to capitalize my m's, well I'm not writing a book, so I'm not terribly concerned with grammatical correctness. I only strive to get my point across, and I'm pretty sure that most everyone on here knows what I mean. A FreeMason is a Mason is a mason on ATS.

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Alright I found an article about it and better yet you can even contect the author of the article:

The Tomb and Masonry

Its the third one down, its a PDF and you may find it interesting.

I guess the Mason's at my local Mason's lodge haven't heard that the checkerboard pattern is to be used, cause they have a beautifully laid hardwood floor...not a checkerboard pattern in sight, well, cept for the checker and chess boards they have there.

Oh, wait....I guess that means Checkers and chess are masonic games?

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You are talking about the Catholic Church's birthplace claim, and it wouldn't surprise me that Masonic/Occultict stuff was found there as most Catholic Churches over there are on ancient Pagan sites. It is not however important to the birthplace of Christ as he wasn't born there..

Hope this helps!

Originally posted by RuneSpider
Well, since FreeMasonry emerged aroun the 1700s, I'm going to say that regular masons worked masonry in a building.
I think it means about as much as my dad getting a role of black and white linoleum for the bathroom and kitchen.

Well freemasonry is a lot older than that if you ask a mason, they claim to go back to the first temple period. The flooring ahs ancient Occult meaning and also Masonic meaning, but they are one in the same just a different name. And of course a regular joe or susie getting a checkered floor is not evil or Occultict, if we lived our lives not using their symbolism we would not have much left because most of what God created Satan tries to take over and claim. The rose is a symbol of theirs and the fleur de lie (spelling) and checkerboards, and stars and moons, pyramids and circles and numbers and etc. etc. so it would be hard to go through your life without having the symbology around you...

That will look nice in a kitchen by the way, give it a kinda retro look that I bet would look cool...

Originally posted by TheMythLives
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Alright I found an article about it and better yet you can even contect the author of the article:

The Tomb and Masonry

Its the third one down, its a PDF and you may find it interesting.

Thank you for this. I find it incredible (and extremely telling) how hard it is to find information regarding this topic.