The secret indentity of the Antichrist

I'm starting this thread not speculate who the Antichrist might be such as bush this or obama that but rather share speculations on interesting facts about him. For example, I heard one persons theory that the Antichrist would be a scorpio because Scorpio is the eighth house of the Zodiac and the Antichrist is said to be an Eighth King. I found that interesting.

So, here are my speculations on the Antichrist:

He will have the THEORY OF EVERYTHING in its purest most simple form so that everyone can comprehend the truth. Every fact ever compiled by man will back up the Antichrist's truth. When the world sees this they will be "ASTONISHED" and chase after him. Some will seek to kill him others will seek to learn from him.

I think he will lead from the bottom up and not the top down.

I think he is completely unknown to the world at large right now but has been being prepared for some time to come onto the world scene.

I suspect he will make his appearance in 2009

I think he will make a fool out of the current world leaders in this vein..."He will destroy the wisdom of the wise. The intelligence of the intelligent he will frustrate."

He will be granted supernatural power to evade the world's armies as he spreads his global agenda of truth.

He will be a global hero...Remember God choose the lowly things, the despise things to shame the strong. I believe God will choose the Antichrist to shut the mouths of Lions the world over. He will prove Christianity is myth and dispell many lies...AND THE BEAST (Christianity and the world leaders) WILL BE ENRAGED at this and try to kill him. It will be a global game of find waldo.

He will show the world that everything was encoded in english. Every song ever written will reveal the truth. He will appear in court and call New Order to the stand and use music for his defence and blow the socks off of those who appose him. No prison will contain him. He will have help from the dead.

He will destroy the world as we know it wonderfully and peacefully.

He will cause "STARS" to fall from heaven in full view of men. Hollywood stars that is. No one will give a sh&t about them anymore.

He will be the Son of Man who takes away the sins of the world because he will show there is no such thing as sin.


Anyways, those are my crazy theories of who the antichrist will be. What's yours. I leave you with this:

THERE IS ONE THING STONGER THAN ALL THE ARMIES OF THE WORLD AND THAT IS AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME.

The Antichrist is going to revolutionize planet earth. In the words of Jesus, "WHAT I SAY UNTO YOU I SAY UNTO EVERYONE WATCH and THE NIGHT IS COMING WHEN NO ONE CAN WORK" It's going to be a time of "GREAT" distress.





[edit on 23-12-2008 by TheOneInsideTheZero]

Originally posted by TheOneInsideTheZero

I think he will lead from the bottom up and not the top down.

I think he is completely unknown to the world at large right now but has been being prepared for some time to come onto the world scene.

Definitely agree that the above two paragraphs hold a lot of truth.

A S&F for these reminders.

I think that the Antichrist will be a woman, purely because everyone suspects that the Antichrist will be a man, it would strike us only too late.

I believe that she would be the youngest of eight children and the only female child.

Anyways, those are my crazy theories of who the antichrist will be. What's yours

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. Ok, here.'s a wacked out theory....... There is no antichrist, to have an antichrist would mean you would have to have a christ. Guess what, there is no credible proof of a christ. Unless your going to say the storybook of the bible is true. And if thats the case, God would be the anti christ because he's killed and tortured a lot more people than the "antichrist" ever did. Religion is nothing but an attempt to controll the masses invented by the romans.

The Scriptures say that the antichrist “is already in the world.” (1 John 4:3) If we want to escape “infection,” we must identify the “carriers” and avoid them. Thankfully, the Bible sheds considerable light on the subject.

“Antichrist” means “against (or instead of) Christ.” So in its broadest sense, the term refers to all who oppose or lyingly claim to be the Christ or his representatives. Jesus himself said: “He that is not on my side is against me [or is antichrist], and he that does not gather with me scatters.”—Luke 11:23.

Of course, John wrote about the antichrist over 60 years after Jesus died and was resurrected to heaven. Hence, the antichrist’s activities must be understood in the light of how they affect Jesus’ loyal followers on earth.—Matthew 25:40, 45.


Jesus warned his followers that the world in general would hate them. He said: “People will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. And many false prophets will arise and mislead many.”—Matthew 24:9, 11.

Because Jesus’ disciples are persecuted “on account of [Jesus’] name,” the persecutors are clearly antichrist, against Christ. The “false prophets,” some of whom were once Christians, are also in that category. (2 John 7) These “many antichrists,” wrote John, “went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us.”—1 John 2:18, 19.

The words of both Jesus and John plainly indicate that the antichrist is not a single person but is made up of many individual antichrists

reply to post by pigwithoutawig


Actually there is proof that Jesus actually did exist. Weather or not he was actually "divine" is up for debate. THAT was an attempt to control the masses by the Romans.

reply to post by pigwithoutawig


I disagree, I do indeed believe a man by the name of Jesus Christ walked this earth once and did great things. Whether he was as has been described through stories and tales as the son of God is something else. Through time, stories eventually become tall tales. I believe the man Jesus Christ, was an honest man who taught people to heal and free themselves on their own accord.

reply to post by TasteTheMagick


I'm not sure about that. If you have this proof maybe you can point me to it.

reply to post by pigwithoutawig


Proof
You can take that however you like, it may be a tad circumstantial but I will point out that Jesus' existence is strengthened by the fact that he is mentioned by Josephus (a Jewish historian that had no ties to Christian circles) and Tacitus (a Roman who wrote about the crucifixion).

reply to post by TheOneInsideTheZero

I am totally amazed that no-one on the internet has come up with the simple alphabet/number code and worked out who he is.
I have posted the answer to loads of people on youtube and haven,t recieved one answer.
Are they getting my messages?
We,ll see if this one gets posted.
Firstly....Adolph Hitler carries the number 666 in his surname....my code proves it.
Second....There is only one leader since Hitler to have the number in his name...i,ll reveal this as soon as i know that this message has been read

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Thats the problem with trying to prove Jesus, you can show me that and I can point to where it says Jesus was actually invented by a Roman as a means to organize a religion. Anyway I thought Jesus's brother was Craig.......www.youtube.com...

The answer lies in that garbled rant somewhere and I will put it simply to you, The Antichrist isn't a person and Napolean and Hitler were not the 1st and second respectively.

The Anti Christ are those who would oppose the Catholic Church and it's reign and rule over the populace, the concept of someone that doesn't agree with the church and its doctrine so they may be attacked as the spawn of the devil is infantile and inane.

We are supposed to be moving into an age of enlightenment however there are many who hang onto the old ways......prophetic crap used to trick the masses and control them.

reply to post by mazzroth


Ah, I understand now, sooo that would make me, one of many antichrists. Lol I'm just havin some fun. But I do believe what I believe and I think you have a lot right.

reply to post by pigwithoutawig


No conflict. I understand and completely agree with you. I merely said that there was proof, not that there wasn't any contradictory proof. And yes, Jesus' brother was Craig (thanks for bringing up that link I love that song)

reply to post by TheOneInsideTheZero


I was under the impression of the anti-Christ ruler being made up and not actually in the text of Revelations. Show me where in Revelations it speaks about this anti-Christ character.

"THEORY OF EVERYTHING" Stephen Hawking

www.youtube.com...

Thanks for bringing this clue to my attention

Theoretical and alleged credible Science can also be the false prophet

Thats an interesting theory, theoneinsidethezero. Revelations traced back 2000 years and 4 languages or so. Encoded? What the origins of those words mean or how it could be possible today? The word antichristo can be thrown around so easily today and mean so many different things. I always wondered if this guy would start a holy war or something, proclaim himself to be god or aethist religion. And they said he would be a man know him by his # 666. If you think about it 6 is the opposite upside down of 9 ,(69), man opposite of woman, like marilyn manson or inprisoned animals. The opposite of jesus the anti-jesus (marilyn monroe or charlie manson).

Hey everyone. Here is some more theories on the Antichrist. I think he will be trying to save mankind from certain doom and will have a limited time to do it in. That is why the Bible says "He will try to change the set times and laws." I don't think he will be some old man in a suit flying around the world in some corporate jet. He won't have time for that whole game. I guess I just see him as being more like a spy who wants to go largely undetected by those who would tie his hands and his feet in a bunch of meaningless politics. So, I think he will organize a revolution from the bottom up. The Bible says he will be revealed. Perhaps he will become a world wide fugitive endowed with all kinds of special power to evade those who pursue him. I say that because I don't know how anyone could possible call themselves the Antichrist and be one hundred percent human...they would just be shot to death especially if they tried to take over the world like Hitler did.

So, I've read some of the replies to my original post and do think that the antichrist could be a body of people but I just have a sneaky suspicion that a man will come on to the global scene. He could be a she and if that's the case I vote for Lara Croft Tomb Raider....I just think at the end of the world we come face to face with our own imagination and everything that we created with our imagination is real....Halo, Mortal Kombat...you name it. Okay so that's a stretch but hey that's the beauty of this thread. It's all just pure speculation.

That's all for now. Have a wonderful night and happy holidays to you all.

PRL

Op.... it sounds like you already know this person...

I maintain that history is miswritten and that the anti christ, a bi-sexual male has been at work for millions and millions of years. 2 races in constant war. One infiltrating the other. The first intelligent bipedal inhabitants of this Earth were these 2 races. This creature arranged the invasion and extermination of his rivals, only to the detriment of the extinction, near extinction of both. And intemediary from the invaders stepped in 'to save the races bloodline' and created a millenium council selecting a few creatures from each of the two races to sit upon it.

For balance a child of the non agressing (in general) race was chosen. To be cared within one race for a period of time, and the other race the other period of time. As an observer, as the judge, as the eyes of youth. But, because of youth the child it was decided needed a babysitter, and quick to volunteer believably was the infiltrant of this child's race, still undiscovered even in the presence of God's man, the rescuer.

The invasion race ruled the earth from that point forward, now, as thier home world. This is where 'star children' philosophy hits very close to the truth.

The child and guardian were to observe beneath the umbrella of each of the 2 races for a period of time, first one, then the other. He interacts both sides, and has for centuries, and both sides are decieved when dealing with him.

These small few of the initial, were allowed to survive through the ages for the benifit of future relocatees of those first races of the blue planet, who would later come or be created-or just continue in one small form or another, it was their planet and they lost it fair and square; as we let the native americans continue, so too here; but these were no longer to be the main owner/operators of this blue planet.

They were divided into 8, becoming the 'representatives' of whatever essence they guard, and the guardians of their own.

The child and the guardian sit outside, somewhat above, somewhat below, somewhat entangled, sometimes interacting, to these 2 but 1 council.

Their kings, Thier monarchies were kept existent but defunct. Total destruction was deemed to be a fundamental wrong, but so was release, so The King of one and his lieutenients, the monarchy of that race were bound in chains to the below. Leadership overthrown. And the 4 took his place.
The King and Queen, the monarchy of the other, were frozen in stone in the above, in rest. Leadership overthrown. And the 4 took their place.

The anti-crist, and here is what I say he is, is a golden electric praying mantis dimensional being at base, a shapeshifter perceptually, and is the over/under/entangled member for the purpose of babysitter of the child, of the council who in hiding and disguise-is the anti-crhrist.
The child is again, basically and observer, to be switched under the guardianship of the other, but chained in rank below the babysitter anti christ in disguise, the wall that blocks before it. Not exactly what the god man had in mind, neither can he know this, he is decieved.

The first segment of time, the child will spend in the company of one race-guided in spirit by the other. The second segment of time may be upon us, the child now spent in the company of the other race, while guided in spirit by the other.

Hard to say for theroies sake.

But, here is what happens....has already happened, yet just not arrived.

To be continued...

Chosen from the former royalty of the demised population. But for the child, chosen from the farmer cast, the lesser cast, of the race who had not aggressed to rule the earth, but who as well lost it during the intervention, extermination, of the third.

They were all 10 given eternal life, opposed to extinction of the origional species. Chosen was a child. A weak fighter. A mentally infirmed member of the group. This one died not knowing how to swing it's rake. The choice is curious.

And the 'anti christ' in disguise, the baby sitter, overseer, chosen as an afterthought upon his raised voice that the child should not be left to look out for itself in the broader sense of the process. To be reared in segments first under the network (a loose term) with one 4; the next with the other. The watcher? An observer? Perhaps. The odd vote.

The rest of the gathered lottery, not chosen for council, were put to death.
Each pair, one from the other were responsible to the "4 corners of the Earth". I suppose this is segmented in Gods terms. Just as what is north and south.

4 of the 8 were charged with advancing the earth in the framework of the 'Greater Good'--a loosely fabric'd term. While the others were to wait, unable to enact upon the earth, rather, in a way.
My theory is that that was the beginning...of the beginning.

They are just meant to continue on, really.

4 pairs of equal standing.
1 odd pair. A younger and an older.

Anyways, his team is comprised of his greater choice, the instigating race, though it's not his business to rule over them and he is not supposed to be acting for the child, and acts for himself while he wears it's igsignia, effectively protected from the eyes of all, in the greatest form of privacy.

His goal, by mastering the first war's instigating race, taking out thier King and Queen, and raising the lieuteniants of the other race while leaving their King below chained, he will unleash the worst sort of madness on the earth and achieve himself as King. The lieutenants, without the balanced fist of thier leader wish to be kings unto themselves, leaderless and free to act on their lesser intelligence for military action, but assuming what they think would be that role coupled with their ferociousness.

The lower levels, banished to dark shapes, will rise--for a very brief time, a few days, before Gods man AGAIN stepps in to reverse the change and fire the child's babysitter, seeing that he chose to not release the King for the balance of the one race, as, was the plan of that segment of the 'greater good'. Irony the team that was at work at this---in the cascade of steps up to this, was the other race. Though that is not how the babysitter played it to perceptions, as he gets to act unwatched, unrecorded, and trusted by all except for the child judge.

Crazy
Both races are very good. And very tooled. Like anywhere they have their issues.

One other theory.

[edit on 24-12-2008 by HugmyRek]

reply to post by TheOneInsideTheZero


Interesting post. I'll get back to you.

Anyway, HERE, PROPHETICALLY FROM THE SCRIPTURES, IS EXACTLY WHAT IS ABOUT TO BE COMING RIGHT DOWN THE PIKE:

* 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 *

and

* Revelation 22:10b-12 - IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING COMPLETED EVEN AS WE SPEAK AND POST.

- and this will happen because most everyone swallows THE LIE that " they are really 'their own god,' " so to speak.
IT WILL BE A MASSIVE, OVERWHELMING DECEPTION.