Somewhere in Brazil a grandmother was filming her grandchildren when this happened

Try pausing the film at exactly 2.28, and you can see a little blue light? under the thing. I wonder what that is?

Other than that i have no opinion on this.

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Any light under it is most probably the flame from a bit of petroleum soaked canvas that actually heats up the air inside it, giving it form and lift.

When you build any kind of balloon manned or otherwise don't to want people to see it and paint it lots of bright colors. Sometimes advertising is used but there is nothing on this from what I see, that is a puzzle IMO.

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Most are bright colours, but it depends on the choice of paper by the person or people making it. Also, some colours high up in the sky dimly lit just come out black. This is usually a very light paper construction, the homemade baloon hypothesis, so the paper is not reflective.

It was debunked years ago as a hot air balloon.

That's clearly CGI.

Can you please prove its a baloon or CGI please?

Cause what gets on my nerves is believers need proofs but non-believers just say "hoax" or "CGI".

Please show me its a hot air baloon or cgi... right now its a UFO.

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Did you see the picture of the spiky balloon on page 1?

Originally posted by IAttackPeople
reply to post by MilitieTempliSalmo

 

Did you see the picture of the spiky balloon on page 1?

I have replied previously (several posts ago) that I am quite happy that its a balloon its others that just can't belive it. I only questioned why no colorful sign writing not if it was alien UFO in balloon disguise.

Originally posted by majestictwo
I only questioned why no colorful sign writing not if it was alien UFO in balloon disguise.

Well, using that logic, how do we know anything is not an "alien" UFO disguised as something else? A bird, for instance? Or a bug? Or a 747?

The point is, if you're really looking for an explanation or identification, and you can't tell the difference, then it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the positive proof, not the "what ifs."

I also would like some proof provided by the debunkers from time to time.
And this is a fine example.
You say it's a balloon, fine, then provide us with a link to a newspaper or a balloon club leaflet dated same day as the footage and we will see.
It's too easy throwing labels then think you got away with it balloon, lantern, cgi, whatever.

I have in mind another footage where people keep spamming it's a forest fire.
And they keep repeating it each time the video surfaces like it's gospel.

Surely, a forest fire near a big town would have been reported somewhere, no ?

/rant

I was intrigued until I saw the picture of the balloon posted. Seems like a good enough explination for me. Especially when they specialized in unique forms for balloons. That picture was dead on.

The Drone made it down to Brazil?

It does look a lot like the balloon on pg 1. Maybe its a Drone-shaped balloon.

Originally posted by RCarter
The Drone made it down to Brazil?

It does look a lot like the balloon on pg 1. Maybe its a Drone-shaped balloon.

Ok I'll play.
If its not a balloon then what could it be. Why cant the explanation already given be true it is the most likely you must admit. We have had this drone thing before and it was de-bunked as CGI. The panning directly to the object suggests its a genuine video.

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This video was shot in 1995. There isn't going to be any links to anything related from that time.

Please read the investigation that Internos linked to on page one. It is by Brazilians who know about what was going on down there at the time and includes comments by a ufologist who looked into the matter back then.

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Irrelevant.
If you can't find any doc to events prior to 1995, I then have to wonder how come people are still finding out stuff about the Roswell case.
The fact that a couple of guys say it's a balloon doesnt necessarily make it so. Yeah, i read it, and I'm guessing a lot of people will think otherwise. But that is not the point.
If 3 or 4 guys came upfront and said it was a dinosaur that travelled forward in time, would that make it real ?
You can't just take a few opinions and make it gospel.
There has to be sufficient elements to prove your theory that it's a balloon.
This video alone, if it does show a balloon, then surely is of some interest to the local police force that would have to investigate that nasty illegal balloon activity. Did you go ask them ?

The first thing that you need to do is to watch the older version of the same video: in this case, the first internet version of the video can be found here
www.youtube.com...
uploaded on december, 2007 by queirozcomz (Shirley de Queiroz).
A stabilized version can be found here:
www.youtube.com...
motion tracked\stabilized, grain reduction, levels adjustments, scaled 412%, time scaled from 1:40 to :18
made by spf33 (OMF)
This just in order to make sure that you are watching some (hopefully) unedited video.
The real shape can be distorted by a huge series of factors: moisture, bad focus, fog, rain, not to mention the youtube lossy compression which generates automatically a LOSS of data in what we see, regardless its format: the only format that doesn't get compressed by youtube is flv, but this just because the compression is made straight by Flash. Go figure what could be the differences between the original footage and some 10th generation video on YouTube. This just to clarify that what we see is NOT what was originally caught on camera.

Whenever you watch a video showing something which shape is complex, the first thing to do is to find the part of the video in which the shape is more clear: and it's way better to ignore all the rest than to consider it, because it's not just irrelevant but even misleading.
Here,

this is an enhancement i've made using a forensic tool, from a screen capture taken in the moment that the object was most clear: this is more or less the actual shape of what we see. It's a resample made using a bicubic algorithm, but it's reliable enough since the resize factor was low: you can call it an enhanced pixel resized version.
Now, let's count its claws:

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 + one hidden: 12 or + two hidden: 13.

and let's compare them with the balloon mentioned in the article (which may NOT be the same of the one of the video)

they could be 13 or 14, not less, no more.

it could be the same balloon, it could be not, but this is not the point:
the point is that the one of balloons shaped like this was a craze at the time, as reported by local investigators:


the resembleance between the two is impressive: if it's not the same thing then it's something of VERY similar, perhaps an alien spacecraft disguised as that specific type of balloon.
Another detail: the ufologist who dismissed it as balloon, Claudeir Covo, is not what you would call some skeptik: just google his name and you will see.
The shape is the one of those balloons, the behavior is the same, local researchers did conclude it was a balloon, the video does NOT show neither the moment it comes nor the moment it goes: why oh why is this supposed to be something ELSE than one of those balloons may i ask?

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Stop confusing the situation with logic

Starred for a well thought out post.

The likelihood that it is other than a balloon is definitely not looking so good.

This one, if it links OK:


www.budoniambiente.org...

On the left image.
You clearly see 12.
Don't make up there are any hidden points.

Like it every 30 degrees for man and alien alike.

360 goes around, comes around.
Perhaps the angle is confusing everyone.

ED: The blue spikes are air ionization from the 12 Tesla bulbs,
like X ray bulbs but only one terminal. Silly Tesla, only one wire,
Edison would have a hey day. Well Tesla met up with a lot of
Edison types and they are still around today, new ones that take
your ideas for profit.


[edit on 12/23/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 12/23/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

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They are indeed well made and thought out. With all that ingenuity I wonder what would happen if they designed a balloon the shape of a flying saucer with some flashing stuff happening around it courtesy of Tesla again. Even more curious if it was released over the UK Midlands !!!