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Have the Freemasons have infiltrated everything?

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posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by NIV21

Originally posted by Level_Head
reply to post by stardust1955
 


You've got to be a dumbass to be brain washed! How can people who are not in masonry know more about it than actual participants?


Probably because we are not blind folded. If you are a normal Christian you have already found the Light and the Light has a name. His name is Jesus Christ. So tell me, why would a "Christian" Mason need to be led around like a scared dog with a blind fold on?


The same reason why you got baptized or take communion. What, is Christ so powerless that he is incapable of recognizing you unless you eat him (if you are Catholic) or drink some juice in a big show of ritual (if you are Protestant)? Is he so helpless he needs you to be dunked in water to see that your serious about your faith?

While freemasonry's rituals are not part of a religion, they still as rituals perform the same basic function as all secular and rituals from religion do - to impress the importance of something on the candidate. For freemasonry, the lesson is the importance of masonic values.



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by NIV21
So tell me, why would a "Christian" Mason need to be led around like a scared dog with a blind fold on?


Maybe you are being led around like a scared dog with a blindfold on but just don't realize it.

Remember, the purpose of initiation is to take the blindfold off.



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light

Originally posted by NIV21
So tell me, why would a "Christian" Mason need to be led around like a scared dog with a blind fold on?


Maybe you are being led around like a scared dog with a blindfold on but just don't realize it.

Remember, the purpose of initiation is to take the blindfold off.


That is the best response I have ever heard to an anti Masnic comment. Well said Masonic Light,, Bravo



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by NIV21
reply to post by stardust1955
 


Probably because we are not blind folded.



Ironic this is coming from someone who seems to be coming from a very narrow point of view without any stated reasons or proof for his claims...

[edit on 19-12-2008 by RuneSpider]



posted on Dec, 20 2008 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by LowLevelMason
...that I am aware of...


I bet you are aware of who won the last NASCAR race.



posted on Dec, 20 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Symbiote

Originally posted by LowLevelMason
...that I am aware of...


I bet you are aware of who won the last NASCAR race.


There is nothing like people trying to make witty, but ultimately pointless remarks on a message board.



posted on Dec, 20 2008 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by LowLevelMason
There is nothing like people trying to make witty, but ultimately pointless remarks on a message board.


LowLevel, stop pretending you did not know it was Ricky Bobby.



posted on Dec, 20 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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I bet you did



posted on Dec, 20 2008 @ 03:48 PM
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to take the blind folds off??? Isn't that quite an arguement against freemasons knowing the rest of humanity is enslaved with deceptions and lies yet if you enter the freemasons you take of your blind folds and enter the realm of the truths and conpiracies beyond the mindstate of average people? You take your blind folds of to see what??? Perhaps someone hear at ATS should infiltrate the freemasons lol and then come out and expose everything (if they are bad or not) just to take there secrecy away that the entire organisation will crumble lol.



posted on Dec, 20 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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The secrecy was taken away about 23 or so years after Freemasonry started back in the 1700's. it's been around since then, and continues despite people making up whatever they feel like.
The "secrets" have been made public for years.
The handshakes, the rituals, and the membership words have been known and published. masons just swear not to reveal them.



posted on Dec, 23 2008 @ 08:49 PM
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I challenge you to do just that.
I did, amongs ather reasons. Now they have me under their control.



posted on Dec, 23 2008 @ 09:07 PM
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Someone needs to take the tinfoil hat off and maybe leave their parents basement.



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 11:54 PM
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"Have the Freemasons have infiltrated everything?"

Well they certainly have infiltrated ATS...

They are so annoying. My whole ignore list is full of masons.



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
"Have the Freemasons have infiltrated everything?"

Well they certainly have infiltrated ATS...

They are so annoying. My whole ignore list is full of masons.


It must be a positively fascinating world to live in where you ignore points of view that don't agree with you.

Perhaps you forgot that whole "deny ignorance" thing?



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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"It must be a positively fascinating world to live in where you ignore points of view that don't agree with you. "

Give it a rest.

I only do on ATS...



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 12:40 AM
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You only ignore people who don't agree with you on ATS?
Seems fairly counterproductive.

Seems you're ignoring some good folks.



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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"Seems you're ignoring some good folks. "

Only ten - all freemasons.



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
Only ten - all freemasons.



Can I be number eleven? It would be an honor to join the rest of the Bretheren....



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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Apparently I am not worthy enough to be on the list, as you are responding to me. Please put me on the list. As with Augustus, I would be honored to join the ranks of other people who speak a truth you cannot handle.



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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"Apparently I am not worthy enough to be on the list"

The ignore list is full right now.

Don't worry kid, you'll get your chance. You just gotta want it bad enough...



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