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What kind of world is it where Jews can't trust fellow Jews?

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posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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Iteresting video. It wasnt just some old Jewish couple as I pointed out it was also a Jewish columnist in a Jewish magazine who made such claims also. There is greed in all races and religions but to say you screwed others no big deal but who the hell do you think you are for screwing a Jew when you are one. That is my issue. Now maybe this is not a common agenda among the Jewish religion or maybe it is and if it is that is just not right at all. If its not then Ill throw them in my mind with the fringe group on the Jewish side along with the fringes of the white, black, christians, muslims, and all the others.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:25 AM
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Okay. Name another religion and nation which was banished already from the 70% of the world countries in the last two thousand years. There is only one. And not because people are making them to scapegoat. It's because they're really that evil and intolerant. Real history, not the fabricated one, never lies. They want to destroy other cultures without any real reason. My nation always handled and welcomed people from any foreign countries as friends. Only the Jews betrayed my nation in the past and they're doing the same in the 21st century. That's why they'll be banished again from my country.


[edit on 18-12-2008 by Sheridan]



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:30 AM
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I am done with you, I don't play well with Racists of any sort and your hate is seething...

I can spend my time better elsewhere, but you have a nice day!



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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reply to post by theindependentjournal
 

Knowing and telling the truth is not racism, regardless you're willing to call it on that way in the believe it's going to defend you from any intelligent debate. So quit playing your childish games. Thanks.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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You imply "they" must all know each other, hence there must be a cabal.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 12:03 PM
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Actually i think that OPs point is valid. Instead of saying "how he could screw other human beings like that" there is a certain distinction. I do not think that it was meant as - it is ok to screw others, but why us...
I mean - if you change Jew in his sentence to Christian for example you will see how you read it differently. I'll bet you will see that as "he is not only did it to others but to fellow Christians too".
However even if the meaning was as you interpritate it - the person is very very naive ,not only ethnically challenged. Homo homini lupus general to all religions , races and ethnicities.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 12:10 PM
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As a Jew, I was offended by 90% of what I read here.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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Well, you would be right if there would be any similar news regarding to Christians or even Muslims. But after there is not so much similar news regarding to Christians or Muslims, such as they've made billions of dollars of fraud or they've bankrupt a bank and picked up millions of USD of payment, I believe we may skip this part again. We can't blame Christians, nor Muslims for something what in they're not even participate at all. We're just blaming those ones, whose are making the mess around them.

[edit on 18-12-2008 by Sheridan]



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 01:30 PM
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I am not blaming any group in its diabolic plan to run ponzy schemes. or ruin banks. not Muslims, not Christians. I am actually showing that by changing nationality/religion of person suddenly the whole phrase looks different.
You are actually blaming certain group. You know why it is called Ponzi scheme by the way? Was Ponzi also from that wicked group?? Or you want me to bring examples of ruined banks or even country economies with fraudsters from other origin?
Previous "proud" holder of record for biggest ponzi scheme fraud in US was from not Jewish. And?



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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I'm blaming those ones whose deserve it. If they would be Christians or Muslims, I would do the same. But right now, not they're the ones whose creating the mess and using the media to spread their lies.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Meh, Jews just feel High and Mighty either way.

Seriously, Most of the population of "Jews" today aren't even real Jews, they are in fact descendants of the old Khazarian people.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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I don't care about your feelings as a jew.I only care about your feelings as a human being.Politically correct stuff is not my nature.Sorry.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 07:23 PM
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I surmise that Madoff and his helpers made off with the loot and its in Israel. Jewish depositors can claim the 'lost' money from the US government.

Can I hear the sweet, sweet, tweets of bail out calls?



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:09 PM
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No kidding, I was shocked at what that poster was saying. They were calling the same lies that have perpetuated throughout the ages truth. Those lies that say that your people are evil lying thieves. Those lies that led to executions diasporas and suffering. I hate it when fiery rhetoric and superstition trumps reason when it comes to what people believe.

And political correctness? I think there is something called respect. Our culture is part of what defines our identity and our identities are fundamentally bound to our personal well being. So dissociating someone from a culture that defines all of their morals and beliefs because one does not care about political correctness...i don't get it.

So many people still have the image that Hitler promoted stuck in their heads. It worked for his people and it works now. An evil bogeyman that nips at the heels of progress: The greasy, thieving, hook-nosed Juden. Don't people understand that if there was a definition of evil, Hitler was IT. His most despicable act was the Holocaust all founded on mistrust and superstition. I don't understand your culture, I want you to go away or I will kill you rather than learn to tolerate you.

[edit on 18-12-2008 by newagent89]



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Sheridan
Honestly anyone, please raise your hand if you heard the following sentence from a Jew: It was my fault. OR Yes, it was our fault.


*raises hand*
Considering this shiksa was married to a Jewish man for years, I heard it plenty.

What's your point?



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
I think the jews are the most racist people out there.

Guess you've never read any of the black liberation theology by Cones.
Or any of the white supremist crap.
Or any of the ___________.
Not that you care, but I find your comment racist.


Originally posted by theindependentjournal
So the Jews are like everyone else is your point?????

Exactly.


I once heard if they die they float fer ever and ever???

Theys not not as racist as OBAMA is muslim though, ill til you what!

I ain't never seen a JEW so I cant say up er down...



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 01:54 AM
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Hope I'm not being redundant but you should ask the Rothschild's why they had such a hardon for hitler.



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 03:01 AM
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I am simply amazed by the subjective idiocy I come across at times.

How does Madoff equate to all Jews?

Madoff does not represent or speak for Jews across the earth. He is a dirtbag that took advantage of Jews trying to donate to charity, cheating them out of their money and donations. He single handedly disrupted the entire system of Jewish philanthropy and charity, tzedakah.

If the dirtbag represents anything its the Accuser who hates Israel and all who have joined in covenant with the G-d of Abraham.

Since people are spreading their abominable Neo Nazi lies about Jews, I will spread some truth.

One: Jews are not some global mafia. Jews do not hold secret global cabals.
There is not a single race or religion on earth that does anything like that. Every single religion and people break down into different and smaller groups. Jews are no exception.

Some Jews are religious. Some are atheist. Some are Buddhist. Some are reform Jews, orthodox Jews, and some are messianic Jews. Some are liberals. Some are conservative. Some are white. Some are black. Some are neither. There is a broad spectrum of who is Jewish.

Two: The Talmud is not the be all, end all of Jewishness. In fact the Talmud, aka the Oral Law was the main division between the Pharisees and Sadducees in ancient times. The Sadducces outright rejected the Oral Tradition.

Three: Ashkenazim are not the end all, be all of Jewishness. There are Jews all over the earth from Kenya to India, who are not Ashkenazim.

Four: It doesn't matter if someone who's Jewish has Turkish (Khazar) ancestry any more than the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim having Egyptian ancestry. It doesn't freaking matter what their ancestry is.

Once your adopted in that's it. Your part of the tribe, regardless of where you came from and anyone can be adopted.



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 03:18 AM
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Wait Madoff was the first Jew to ever screw over another jew? Really? Because that how this thread comes across.

Jews are like any other group, they keep thier money and business in thier own community, like italians, like mexicans etc. In turn every group screws people over in thier own group. This article is stupid.

Are jews racist? In my experience no more or no less then any other group.



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 03:49 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Damn.

Is this what ATS members - some of the finest minds on the 'net, are becoming?

Ever since the US election, when Obama became a serious candidate every single bit of latent racism and religious intolerance has slithered out of its hiding place and decided to manifest itself one way or another here.

Madoff is a criminal. There are criminals from every race, religion and creed of people on the earth. He happens to be jewish. If you interview a couple of jewish people about the incident they will relate to what they know best - in this case the effect on their jewish community. If you'd interviewed a couple of christians about it they'd put their slant on it, same with muslims or blacks or hispanics. Its called LIFE. People talk about what they know.

Complaining about them doing that is the same as complaining about New Yorkers talking about the effect on their city after 9/11, or complaining about Londoners who talk about the effects on London after 7/7.

But no... people even managed to get a few cheap shots in about the holocaust in WW2 - what the hell has that got to do with a criminal swindling $50billion in 2008? Nothing at all.

Its a crassly cynical attempt at race/religious baiting for the sake of it.

ATS is better than that, surely?


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


[edit on 19/12/08 by neformore]




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