Do you think be evolved from Aliens?

Originally posted by Harte

Originally posted by autowrench
veryrandomann said:

The whole concept of evolving from aliens is not very probable and is likely not even plausible.

Alter-Ego said:

I find it exceedingly hard to believe that "aliens" had anything to do with it... if they did, why don't our ancient text, records and historical documents, just come out and tell us this fact ??

Not to disrespect you two, but have your read and studied at all outside the normal things children are taught? You both come off like paid dis-info agents, anyone who has studied the literal thousands of docs and hundreds of videos out there, plus the millions of people around the world, some whom have never seen a book on UFOs or seen a TV report the same things, and even draw pictures that are so similar it is uncanny..... knows something un-earthly is out there, and here. Wake up and smell the coffee, gentlemen.

Pardon me?

Please tell me which of the two gentlemen implied that aliens don't exist, or, conversely, stop with the strawman - making.

Originally posted by autowrenchI believe they have toyed with us biologically. What other species on this planet has evolved so much in such a short period of time?

Uh, the influenza virus?

How about HIV?

Please provide any evidence you're aware of for Homo Sapiens evolving "...in a short period of time."

Harte

[edit on 12/18/2008 by Harte]

And, our brains, as is the subject of another recent post here. Everything evolves, period, nothing is completely static about mankind, so to state emphatically that man does not evolve is to say an untruth. I myself have evolved plenty since to day I came to this world way back a log time ago. I have grown, and became more intelligent, and gained learning, and changed my appearance as in growing or cutting my hair. Everything on this planet has evolved, in one way or another, and a virus is the best by far example I have seen.

OldMedic said:

There is absolutely NO evidence, whatsoever, that any alien life form has ever come to this earth.

Of course, you can always claim that some alien came to visit youm,, probed your backside, and that is proof. But personally, I think that anyone that has experienced such things has been off their medicatyion for far too long.

Oh, I don't know about that...There is plenty of circumstantial evidence supporting Eisenhower’s ‘First Contact’ meeting with Extraterrestrials.
Have you ever seen this?

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
And while you are at it, take a look at some of these documents supporting alien life visiting this planet.
www.theblackvault.com...

Non-Physical experience is statistically commonplace in the study of the UFO phenomena.
I would say the evidence is clear as glass that we are being visited by extraterrestrial beings, and have been for a very long time. But, you too are entitled to your beliefs, just like we all are, so believe what you wish. I will tell you one thing only. I too didn't believe in aliens and UFOs until I had an experience with one, then another. I have radioactive crystals on my liver and kidneys to always remind me of this. Once you experience one of these things, you are never the same again, I don't care who you are. I for one will be glad when they finally show themselves and put this argument to rest for all time. But then, we are taking about human beings, aren't we? To some a mountain of physical evidence would not be enough.

Originally posted by autowrench
I am anything but a psychopath, and that in itself tells me a lot about you

There is room here for genuine, sincere disagreement. We do not have to accuse people we disagree with of being a "paid government disinformants." Only someone suffering some a mental illness would think otherwise.

By the by, you notice how the skeptics here never accuse anyone of being a "paid government disinformant?"

Originally posted by autowrench
our own government does in fact pay a lot of people to do exactly what I accused you of, I have actually tracked down a few myself, using my connections with law enforcement.

Have you now?

Since you are accusing me, do you have proof I'm a paid government disinformant? If you do, there are a lot of people in this forum who would love to see it.

Originally posted by autowrench
I see you are SaviorComplex, and that too says a lot about who you are, what you believe, and the time you are willing to put in to discredit anything not of your particular religious flavor.

What does it tell you? And what is my supposed religious flavor? I'm very curious to know.

Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by autowrench
I see you are SaviorComplex, and that too says a lot about who you are, what you believe, and the time you are willing to put in to discredit anything not of your particular religious flavor.

What does it tell you? And what is my supposed religious flavor? I'm very curious to know.

Well, I can't say what autowrench thinks, but I'll take a shot at your religious "flavor..."

Um, how about agnostic chip cookie?

Autowrench,

Analyzing your username could lead us to speculate that your "religious flavor" involves worshiping the Ford Almighty!

Harte

I love it!
I agree that we should explore any theory, I agree that
we should debate (politely) different possiblities of where
we came from... but come on..., evolving?

Today's society is breaking down.
Kids throw babies about and film it on their phones,
Stalwarts of the Financial world admit that they tricked the
world for years, and the idea of success is to worship money.

Maybe that's what you mean? to evolve is to wallow in
misery and sin.
I'll never wear a lifejacket again.

To respond to the actual question posted in this thread, I don't agree that we evolved from aliens. I believe we ARE aliens, and pose the following questions to reinforce the logic of this belief.

We have no place, NO place on this planet where we can thrive in our natural state. Running buck naked through the trees, is only possible within a very very thin line around the equator. Anywhere else we die of exposure, infection or ravaged by animals.

We have been engineered to traverse stairs. Last I saw, there are very few natural stairs, but our bodies are engineered to go up stairs with balance.

In all the world, we have somehow been able to evolve at the same rate, same pace regardless of the environment. Inuit people are not covered in thickly matted hair, and in aquatic areas we don't develop webbed feet or hands. In the deserts, we didn't adapt to store fluids for long periods.

We have no natural defenses. Every animal on this planet has a natural set of defenses, except us. True, we build things, but buck naked, we are far from a formidable opponent.

With exception to the beaver, no other animal on this planet destroys it's environment to make a suitable habitat for itself. last I saw no animal had begun cementing over everything to make nice smooth roads.

Does this PROVE we are aliens?..no, but it sure gives food for thought.

Thanks for reading
..Ex

Originally posted by v3_exceed
To respond to the actual question posted in this thread, I don't agree that we evolved from aliens. I believe we ARE aliens, and pose the following questions to reinforce the logic of this belief.

Does this PROVE we are aliens?..no, but it sure gives food for thought.

No, it doesn't. These "questions" far better suggest that humans are wonderful at adapting almost instantly to any environment, very smart animals, not aliens.

Originally posted by v3_exceed
We have been engineered to traverse stairs. Last I saw, there are very few natural stairs, but our bodies are engineered to go up stairs with balance.

It's amazing how many other animals are capable of mounting stairs, despite stairs not naturally occuring in the environment. I see my cat do it every day, for example.

reply to post by SaviorComplex


Looking over your posts here, I see that you are a lot like me, in trying to bring to light the alien secrets that we all want to know. What do you say we bury the hatchet, start over again, after all, we seem to be on a similar mission. If, not, no worries, I am here to talk and learn, just like everyone else. What do you say, SaviorComplex? BTW, my user name comes from the fact that I was an automotive engineer for a good many years, and a deputy sheriff for the past 22 years. I have worked in a lot of undercover assignments, and have developed many contacts in the past. All I need is a little info and anyone can be brought to light. How do you think criminal are caught? To tell the truth, I can no longer do the automotive work like I used to, age and a bad back took care of that. I don't really care for police work anymore, way too much corruption. I am retiring at the first of the year. I will still be tinkering with old cars, it is a passion that I cannot evade. The UFO thing came after an indecent in West Texas in 1984. I lost 6 hours, was really sick for two years after, and was recently told that I now have these crystals on my kidneys and liver. The docs tell me only radiation causes them like that. I have been given just a few years to live, and I plan on using that time to tell everyone I can what happened to me, what our government is covering up and hiding, and how America is quickly becoming just what Alex Jones has been saying all along...a police state. I would give most anything to know what happened to me during those 6 hours, and others I have spoken with who lost time after an encounter want to know too. The Dept. i work out of is no help at all, I got laughed at when I made the report and told to get back on meds, that I needed them. that is a common thing to say to experiencers, I have found out. Especially in these forums that talk of such things. I am here to tell what i know and have found out. That's all.

reply to post by koldpatrol


It is interesting that people belief what they want to believe. "Believing that Jesus was an alien hybrid" would come more from aliens than it would Jesus Himself. Aliens, often times will try to convince people things like we evolved from them. And that they are Jesus-like beings. You can love it or hate it, but Know this: There is no one like Jesus. There have been many gods throughout history. However, Jesus prooved to rain over all the other gods. At the very mention of His name all the "gods" "aliens" and demons tremble. They have to submit to His authority and their deception depends on you not recognizing His Divinity.

Originally posted by v3_exceed

We have been engineered to traverse stairs. Last I saw, there are very few natural stairs, but our bodies are engineered to go up stairs with balance.

..Ex

I thought stairs were engineered by people.

Are you saying humans were created by stairs? Are we the people of the stairs, people under the stairs, ... looking for a Stairway to Heaven. Good start for an ATS thread here!

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by SaviorComplex

 

Looking over your posts here, I see that you are a lot like me, in trying to bring to light the alien secrets that we all want to know. What do you say we bury the hatchet, start over again, after all, we seem to be on a similar mission. If, not, no worries, I am here to talk and learn, just like everyone else. What do you say, SaviorComplex? BTW, my user name comes from the fact that I was an automotive engineer for a good many years, and a deputy sheriff for the past 22 years. I have worked in a lot of undercover assignments, and have developed many contacts in the past. All I need is a little info and anyone can be brought to light. How do you think criminal are caught? To tell the truth, I can no longer do the automotive work like I used to, age and a bad back took care of that. I don't really care for police work anymore, way too much corruption. I am retiring at the first of the year. I will still be tinkering with old cars, it is a passion that I cannot evade. The UFO thing came after an indecent in West Texas in 1984. I lost 6 hours, was really sick for two years after, and was recently told that I now have these crystals on my kidneys and liver. The docs tell me only radiation causes them like that. I have been given just a few years to live, and I plan on using that time to tell everyone I can what happened to me, what our government is covering up and hiding, and how America is quickly becoming just what Alex Jones has been saying all along...a police state. I would give most anything to know what happened to me during those 6 hours, and others I have spoken with who lost time after an encounter want to know too. The Dept. i work out of is no help at all, I got laughed at when I made the report and told to get back on meds, that I needed them. that is a common thing to say to experiencers, I have found out. Especially in these forums that talk of such things. I am here to tell what i know and have found out. That's all.

Very sorry to hear this.

I used to not believe in the possibility that we are being visited, the more I learn the more I begin to think there is a lot we don't know.
I read a book a while ago called "Rare Earth". It's basic premise is that earth and our solar system is a statistical anomaly when compared with other solar systems. Could this be by design or by accident. No way to know, because if we have been visited for the last 4 billion years, they would be pretty good by now at staying hidden. If not, then it might seem like we must not be alone.
I think maybe we have intra-dimensional visitation more than I believe in visits from other planets in our own dimension.

reply to post by Alter-Ego


Just to take an issue with this quote, which is incorrect.

The theory suggests that we did not evolve from apes, more that we DEVOLVED from a higher evolved state of HUMANITY.

The theory is that we had a common ancestor, NOT that we evolved from apes.

Just wanted to point that out for the record.