Alien Abduction Under Hypnosis

This was posted in August of 2008. This guy was experiencing missing time and decided to go seek hypnosis to explain what may be happening to him. Its part 1 of 4 and I found it to be a facinating watch.

Google Video Link

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I cannot get the link to work, but I also underwent a regression in September this year.

My Regressionist recorded the whole thing and I have posted it on the web for all to hear.

Here is a direct link to the mp3 file. regression

Just right click and save the file.

If that doesn't work you can listen to a steamed version on the Regression page at my site aliendoodles



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Can't find link either.

wZn

The URL is malformed. I think this is the correct link:

Google Video Link

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Thank You for posting the video - Im not sure what Im doing wrong apart from entering the video number when prompted.

Wooah! INTENSE!

Thank you for this Ashley awesome stuff. Part 2 and 3 are very significant in the whole alien agenda scheme of things.

I don't know if you noticed, but just when the alien literally 'walks in' to John, and then becomes interviewed by the hypnosis therapist, pay attention to the left side of his face and how it changes to blue! Amazing... reminds me of an Andromedan that Alex Collier talks about in his videos.

This is a perfect example of finding out the history and agenda of most alien groups Johns "walk in" describes (can't recall the name he gives himself).

The fact he talks about the grays pretty much using young John as a lab rat when he was a child, until the intervention by the walk in, and how the Zetas (grays) feed off the emotion (especially hate and fear) rings true with most other abduction stories.

The message of hope is also very pleasing.

I highly recommend this to anyone with an open mind on aliens/ETs and what the heck it's all about.

Thanks again Ashley, well worth the post.

wZn

Ya, I dont much about hyponosis or the science behind it and I find myself asking if hypnosis is really a regression or whether its triggering the fears of our subconcious.

Either way, very intriguing and definately opens up disscussion into the subjest of alien abduction.

I dont think this tread should go without more review.

This is a very intriguing insight.

It's interesting but nothing new. Nor is hypnosis a reliable tool. It proves little more than an active imagination.

IRM

Newby here. from what i understand. going under hypnosis can be dangerous. i've had some experiences, and just by knowing how powerful the mind can be. i fear going under hypnosis. though for some i believe it can be helpful. for me, i don't think i should chance it really. even though i would like to know more about my experiences i somewhat remember and ones i don't...i don't think it would be such a good idea for me. iv'e had at least 3 experiences that i know of. The 1st one was kinda scary. I was only 16.

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at least i believe it was my 1st experience..

Hypnosis is a very useful tool for unblocking memories, but it does need to be done correctly. That is why using meditation first is recommended. I'm going to eventually go this route myself, but finding the right practitioner is going to be challenging I believe.

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While this is interesting, hypnosis may have more to do with fantasy and dreams. It is to unreliable to use as evidence, and other aspects need to be found. I think the research in abductions is stalling as the researchers in this aspect do not have anything else other than hypnosis.
So far, all the implants have been irregularly shaped, and tested to be of terrestrial found elements. There has been some interesting finds of nerves around the implants, but nothing to state they are extraterrestrial.
I hope all the serious researchers of the abduction phenomena get together and try to come up with a different approach to the research. Otherwise, it is preaching to the choir.

Regression is absolutely not a viable method for getting at "lost" memories. It's subject to many pitfalls: cultural contamination, leading therapists, the need of the subject to please the therapist, and a host of other issues...for starters that the area of the brain accessed during such session is the part responsible for fantasy.

The AMA has labeled it potentially dangerous, and the UFO researcher's use of it irresponsible.

Let no one forget that it's entirely possible and probable that this process has changed otherwise normal people into "abductees", and very likely nothing happened to them at all. Hypnosis is after all used for predominantly for behavior modification.

Just wondering if any of you 'skeptics' actually bothered watching the entire 4x14minute youtubes? Because you all seem so eager to dismiss what you see here as mumbo jumbo.

I don't agree with any of you in this case. This guy has a walk-in experience under hypnosis, which I believe is an unlocker, and in this case a conjurer.

You guys know about the CIA's classic attempt to debunk such hypnosis while using this method extensively themselves for example in remote viewing type experiences. (and I know this is not remote viewing in this case, just saying...)

I think John seemed very legit and convincing to me. All we have is our own opinions in places like ATS and none are right or wrong. Because opinions are just that. And remember folks zee Grays are soul suckers.

wZn

Thanks for posting this. I was able to stream part one by using the interface. Where can I go to watch parts 2, 3, and 4 ?

I am also one of the many with partial memories that seem to parallel others who have had the abduction phenomenon. My memories don't include aduction, but the blue glow, paralysis, floating through the walls, dreams of flying (more like swimming through the air), etc.

I have also thought about regression therapy but I am worried about recalling long dormant memories that might be traumatic. Of course this could be post hypnotic conditioning designed to discourage investigation.

lunarminer

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I would like to see this but neither one works for me. Says the video is now unavailable.
Can anyone tell me how to find it on Google Video?

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For what it's worth, I agree with you. I know that hypnosis was "debunked" for a while-- A case in point involved children in day care who recalled under hypnosis having been abused (this was a long time ago in California). But in follow-up that many people remain unaware of, some of the parents got together and hired someone (archaeologists, maybe?) to investigate, to look for a connecting tunnel the children had spoken of. And they found it.

My opinion is just my opinion, of course, but I believe that regression hypnosis should not be dismissed that casually.

I'm new here, I hope this posts under the correct entry....

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Hi Jeff, how ya doing?

We didn't make it to the 'Culture of Contact' thing but Farah Yurdozu and Peter Robbins, with whom I had lunch last week in NYC, both thought it a disaster for them, so I hope you weren't too disappointed with the turnout.

Now, you and I disagree somewhat about the use of hypnosis in memory recovery, and I can only say that my opinion of this as a tool is formed by personal experience.

You can put in all sorts of caveats about ensuring you have a competent practitioner and that they should be properly trained and qualified, etc. No doubt there is incompetent hypnosis, maybe a lot of it.

But if it's done properly, it sure as heck does aid in memory recovery. In my case I have worked with two diferent practitioners. The first was a trained psychiatric social worker familiar with the alien abduction phenomenon but whose hypnotic regression work only represents about 1% of all his professional hypnosis caseload (he is a qualified hypnotherapist working with our National Health Service).

The second was a doctor of psychiatry at a major northern university medical school, again in the UK. He had absolutely no knowledge of the abduction phenomenon and was totally unfamiliar with the liteature, so didn't know how to 'lead' or what to ask. This actually makes memory recovery more difficult, but possible - as illustrated in the Hill case from 1961, as an example, where the hypnotherapist resisted what the Hills were separately recalling as he had absolutely no knowledge of the phenomenon, and nor did anyone else at that time.

What tends to happen, in my experience, is that little or nothing is remembered during the session. You just draw a blank. But over the subsequent four or five weeks, as you go about your daily life, things do suddenly emerge into memory and you think 'of course I remember that - how could I have forgotten?' It's as if the subconscious is woken up, and takes its time delivering things up into conscious memory again. These memories then become permanently present, and there is no doubt that they are real. They've just been submerged, blocked, until they are recalled with the aid of hypnosis.

So you have to be patient, and give it time. If done properly by a competent and trained practitioner (i.e. a psychiatric professional) then it can be a very valuable aid to memory recovery. In my experience it's the only one that works. The memories are uncomfortable but the pieces slowly fit into place. If you're working with for example a professional medical psychiatrist who knows nothing at all about the phenomenon, as I have, then it's hard going as you have to piece it together yourself with no kind of corroboration that your memories might be identical to those of others.

Anyways, your book finished? Where's my signed copy?

Cheers.

Hypnosis is a powerful tool in the right persons hands, and can truly aid in recovering memories. It depends on the ability of the practitioner. The idea that everything is fabricated is ridiculous. If someone who is fantasy prone wishes to explore areas that have no indication of trouble or symptoms, or other evidence, then its not reliable. But when memories are revealed in an area where evidence and concern has already been expressed, it can yield enormous results.

As to its effectiveness in studies related to amnesia:

www.sciencedaily.com...

In their experiments, the researchers identified two groups of volunteers--those who were susceptible to hypnotic suggestions and those who were not. They showed both groups a documentary depicting a day in the life of a young woman. A week later, they placed them in a magnetic resonance imaging scanner and induced them into a hypnotic state. In this state, the scientists gave the subjects a posthypnotic suggestion to forget the movie, also giving them a reversibility cue that would restore the memory.

Once the subjects had been brought out of the hypnotic state, the researchers tested their recall of the movie, then gave them the reversibility cue and tested their recall again. As expected, the hypnosis-susceptible group showed reduced recall of the movie, compared with the hypnosis-nonsusceptible group.

Analysis of the brain scans taken during posthypnotic amnesia and memory recovery revealed distinctive activity differences between the hypnosis-susceptible group and -nonsusceptible group in specific occipital, temporal, and prefrontal areas of the brain. The researchers also detected telltale brain activity changes in the hypnosis-susceptible group as they forgot and recalled memory of the movie. In that group, activity in some brain regions was suppressed during memory suppression, while activity in other regions increased. And during reversal of the posthypnotic suggestion, the susceptible group showed recovery of activity in suppressed regions.