Riots are spreading across Europe..

www.anarkismo.net...


I thought you might like to read this article written by one of the Greek Rioters.In a nutshell it says,'We ain't gonna put up with bull# any longer'

There are alot of anarchist groups around the world,alot moret han you imagine and new groups are froming everywhere the latest in New Zealand.From Brasil to Turkey to Cyprus these groups are an active ,serious and determined force that will challenge the TPTB and with riots spreading across Europe ,Spain ,Turkey ,Cyprus and don't think they're done in Greece yet-they got plans....Question is you ever going to catch the fire in the US or are going to stay asleep?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

little more info..

Nice post, but as for a rule of thumb could we refrain from calling these people Anarchists. They are obviously fed up with their governments. Thats like calling half the people on ATS Anarchists, it's a bit offensive.

Awwww.... you guys refer to anarchy like it's a bad thing

Sometimes it is... sometimes it isn't.. it all depends on how and when you apply it and to what degree

I agree whole heartedly. However, this is the problem we all face. Doesn't make us all anarchists does it? Personally I am all for some anarchy, but to generalize a whole group like that is messed up. It reminds me of Geraldo calling 9/11 truthers anrachists on TV, guess it struck a nerve.

Remember, to anyone who is connected to the 'control' mechanism of media and politics, anything that they can't suppress is "anarchy."

That would include freedom of speech, freedom to congregate, and several other trivialities of self-determination that the globalists seem to be trying to destroy.

Originally posted by 12.21.12
Nice post, but as for a rule of thumb could we refrain from calling these people Anarchists. They are obviously fed up with their governments. Thats like calling half the people on ATS Anarchists, it's a bit offensive.

They do actually call their group Anarchists and are proud to be called that. I understand others may not like to be called that but some of these organised groups do prefer to be known as Anarchists.

I just read the link to Anarkismo and the last couple of sentences reminded me of George Bush saying "your either with us or against us" (or words to that effect).

NO MORE HYPOCRICY - THESE ARE NO "ISOLATED INCIDENTS", THIS IS THE REALITY OF STATE VIOLENCE COPS SHOOT TO KILL - WE ARE AT WAR. Whoever pretends nothing is happening has already chosen which side they are on

I do hope the rioting doesn't get any worse but when people have nothing left to lose..........

this is bigger than most people realise, this isn't run of the mill civil unrest. it is almost palpable in the collective consciousness. i really, deeply feel that, either, things have changed or they are about to change.

personally, i have never heard of a riot in the depths of winter, it doesn't happen. if there is going to be a riot, it is in the summertime. can anyone think of another riot that happened in December?

it is going to keep spreading around europe. i'm unsure of what'll happen in the US, depends on a lot of factors.

Anarchism is a high system for the absolute cream of society...

It's not rioting in the streets.

suggested reading: "Anarchism, A Collection of Revolutionary Writings" by Peter Kropotkin




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sorry but W T F, stay out of this thread? who the heck are you anyway?

Originally posted by pieman
this is bigger than most people realise, this isn't run of the mill civil unrest. it is almost palpable in the collective consciousness. i really, deeply feel that, either, things have changed or they are about to change.

personally, i have never heard of a riot in the depths of winter, it doesn't happen. if there is going to be a riot, it is in the summertime. can anyone think of another riot that happened in December?

it is going to keep spreading around europe. i'm unsure of what'll happen in the US, depends on a lot of factors.

This is exactly why I posted this ,because I have a feeling that this is just the beginning.
Alot of organising is due to anarchist involvement in the riots.So I'm not saying all rioters are anarchists ,there are alot of pissed off people.You know how it is .Something happens and the media report it but rarely dp you get the real story.Well on the anarchist link I posted it's straight from the horses mouth.Reminds me of the book THE FIRE THE LAST TIME about the 68' riots in France.

Wait; groups of anarchists?

In caps, at the end of the article, it states - "NO MORE HYPOCRICY" ...which is a misspelling of the word HYPOCRISY...

Isn't assembling anarchists a little hypocritical?
Not to be derailing or anything... just makes this whole thread seem a little silly to me.

Where are these riots all over Europe?

nice to see people fighting the machine

shame it hasn't caught on in North America

damn fluoride!

Anarchy, especially after a government has failed to make prudent decisions, is often the very enema that this particular society requires.

Anarchy enema's are messy things, but on occasion, thankfully infrequent, required to purge things that need purging.

This enables a people to hit the "reset" button, and get things centered up again.

the thing is, this thread interests me because i had the feeling this would probably happen but i hadn't anything concrete to post. i don't think it'll be anarchist, particularly, i don't think it is now. it's nothing so defined.

there was a budget last month in ireland where the government were quite tough on the poor and easy on the rich, which is perfectly normal and was expected.

there were immediate protests against it and the government have had to roll back on many elements of it. it's still not good, by any means, but i was quite taken aback by the immediate "oh no you don't" reaction.

now the government here have said they want to have another referendum on the lisbon treaty and i can see it sparking riots with the present mood as it is. maybe not, i don't know, but i feel there might be, i feel there is very little required to spark a riot. i never felt this before.

Main Entry: an·ar·chy
Pronunciation: \ˈa-nər-kē, -ˌnär-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin anarchia, from Greek, from anarchos having no ruler, from an- + archos ruler — more at arch-
Date: 1539

1 a: absence of government
b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority
c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

2 a: absence or denial of any authority or established order
b: absence of order : disorder

From Wikipedia:
The word "anarchy" is often used by non-anarchists as a pejorative term, intended to connote a lack of control and a negatively chaotic environment. Because of this, some activists have self-identified as libertarian socialists. In more recent times anti-authoritarian has offered another similar self-identification. However, anarchists still argue that anarchy does not imply nihilism, anomie, or the total absence of rules, but rather an anti-authoritarian society that is based on the spontaneous order of free individuals in autonomous communities, operating on principles of mutual aid, voluntary association, and direct action.

What would be wrong with anarchists coming together in a group? Do you understand what anarchy actually is or do you only know the incorrect, common usage? It's kind of like the common usage of communism and socialism. Once you know what the philosophy actually espouses, you learn that it's really a very noble idea - and that's why they don't work. We're still too selfish, short-sighted and narrow-minded. We need to evolve a bit still.

There's hope. Now off the sofa and off to rally!

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Main Entry: an·ar·chy
Pronunciation: \ˈa-nər-kē, -ˌnär-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin anarchia, from Greek, from anarchos having no ruler, from an- + archos ruler — more at arch-
Date: 1539

1 a: absence of government
b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority
c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

2 a: absence or denial of any authority or established order
b: absence of order : disorder

From Wikipedia:
The word "anarchy" is often used by non-anarchists as a pejorative term, intended to connote a lack of control and a negatively chaotic environment. Because of this, some activists have self-identified as libertarian socialists. In more recent times anti-authoritarian has offered another similar self-identification. However, anarchists still argue that anarchy does not imply nihilism, anomie, or the total absence of rules, but rather an anti-authoritarian society that is based on the spontaneous order of free individuals in autonomous communities, operating on principles of mutual aid, voluntary association, and direct action.

What would be wrong with anarchists coming together in a group? Do you understand what anarchy actually is or do you only know the incorrect, common usage? It's kind of like the common usage of communism and socialism. Once you know what the philosophy actually espouses, you learn that it's really a very noble idea - and that's why they don't work. We're still too selfish, short-sighted and narrow-minded. We need to evolve a bit still.

There's hope. Now off the sofa and off to rally!

Put me on your friend list at once!

Originally posted by warrenb
nice to see people fighting the machine

shame it hasn't caught on in North America

damn fluoride!

My sentiments exactly,in fact Rage Agaunst the Machine should get their bums to Greece pronto.Actually there are quite a few anarchist groups in the US lookit up,I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

the best sentence in the article is

Whoever pretends nothing is happening has already chosen which side they are on.

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do you agree with them?

i think the point is that if you are pretending this isn't happening, that this isn't real, that this is just a few trouble makers. it's because you have already chosen. to choose not to acknowledge this is a choice, it is a clear indication of your intent.