Special Ops Officer Speaks Out!

CoolHand, you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the arse.

By the way 5th Group - I was with the 101st Aviation Brigade during my Army days. (late 80's/early 90's) Had some friends in 5th Group.

Look again, that quote was from the person who started this thread. Remember what I told you about reading the whole thing first and then putting your thoughts or opinions on it.


BTW I think it is kind of funny how you point out that I would not know the truth when you are notorious for posting false information.

Anyway, back to the topic. I think that the overall consensus is that this guy is a fake. If he could only speak up for himself, we could have more fun destroing his story. I think we scared him off.

[Edited on 7/4/04 by COOL HAND]

You can always e-mail him, write him or call him. All three bits of info are readily available. IP is as well but I'm not giving that one out.

Originally posted by titian
You can always e-mail him, write him or call him. All three bits of info are readily available. IP is as well but I'm not giving that one out.

Where are those pieces of information available?

The Resume::

Looking for a GSM or Tech Manager Position.

Name: XXXXXXXXXX
Adress: XXX RT 63
WXXXa, ## ###XX
Phone: (XXX) XXX-2600
Email: #XXX#@hotmail.com



OBJECTIVE: Master Satellite Communications Technician

QUALIFICATIONS
#1 FSS4 Echostar Communications Certified
#2 Echostar Communications Commercial Installation Certified
#3 Level 3 Starband Certified
#4 USBA (United Satellite Broadcasters Association) Master Certified


EDUCATION
2 year Satellite Communications, US School of the Americas (US ARMY) Ft. Benning, GA
1 year Master Technician, USBA Training Center Chicago, IL


EMPLOYMENT
1990-1999 18Delta-19Scout, US ARMY
5th Group Special Forces Battalion, Ft. Campbell, KY

Duty: Field Satellite Communications
Rank: E7

1999-2001 Commercial Satellite Engineer, AEI Communications

Duty: Design and Install of Head In Boards, MDU, and QAM units
Commercial Installation Manager


Jan 2001-Sept. 2001 Commercial Engineer, Echostar Communications (DNSC)

In charge of Commercial Design Facility and Technician Training
Left: To Start my own Installation Company

2001 -2003 Owner, XXXsen Satellite & Communication Technologies

Duty: Installation Company for Several Dish Dealers






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[Edited on 7-4-2004 by SkepticOverlord]

I installed a satelite dish once. No problemo! What a wasted read this one was.

Iceman, do you write books? Specifically books relating to your "field of expertise"?

I can see how that ties in real well with your "stories" on ATS.

I will give you this, though. You have been very successful in your field of expertise. I SUGGEST YOU STICK TO IT.

I don't understand why people like you go around posting threads like this one on-line. In hopes of gaining...what?

What do you want out of this?

Friendship? Compassion? Respect?

That my friend is the last thing you can expect from this. If it were true, maybe. However, considering the circumstances, the only thing you will receive from this is shame and embarrassment.

I highly suggest that you quit while you are ahead because you have dug a hole that is very hard to climb out of.

Here is my suggestion:

The next time you log on to ATS, you should submit a new thread, apologizing for your actions on this website. You should admit your wrongdoing, and accept whatever punishment that the Moderator's feel is necessary. Because at this point, you are not on very good terms (IMO), and it does not look like there is any chance of you "redeeming" yourself, so far.

Just a thought to ponder.


Mr. M

[Edited on 8-4-2004 by StarChild]

[Edited on 8-4-2004 by StarChild]

Iceman.....................are you out there?

Hello.........................

I guess he went back to writing his new novel titled:

"The Life and Times of ******** *******, A Fictional Story."

So I read through most of the posts to response to my first post. I find it interesting that none of you asked the right questions. First off any idiot can find out what training facility does what, and secondly any idiot can call a base on the phone or S4 if they have a friend in records, or Saint Louise, Missouri to find out instructors names and dates of service. Besides the fact that I would never give that information out to any one, that would be real smart on my part don't you think.

Ok as to training, I graduated from the House of Pain at Sandhill, Ft. Benning 11B10 . I will tell you our class was one of the last classes to see Harmony Church because just after we were assigned to Sand Hill they tore it down. The last line should give you a hint to when I was stationed there. From there I was stationed at Campbell, 3/327th inf. And then on to Sherman as part of the 101st Air Assault training divisions. From there pathfinders, echo company and did my training 10th Mountain Division from there off to 25th ID for bubble, UDT training and amphibious insertion training. From there studied for my EIB and would earn my CIB in Desert Storm took my HALO at the proving grounds, became an NCO just after that and was stationed with the Ravens as an FO in Columbia. And by the way I believe I said Kota Marudo and the Boarder of Borneo for Malaysian Man Tracker School if I missed the word �and� well tough luck. And by the way genius my wife still lives there with my son, no thanks to the US Army!! And many other schools and training classes that I am not at liberty to discuss with you all. And as for all the information that I spoke about , first off I wasn�t writing about it to spark any of you small brains in here, it was meant for the other people in here that read these posts.

Now you all are about asking questions so here is one for you. For the jerky that says he was X military tell me son what is building #1 on any post?, and what is at the top of that building?, and what is it used for smart guy? And by the way the jacket that you keep flashing around like it is some big thing I can pull from just about any VA center in the country ROFLOL.

That should make all of you so called military know it all�s, shut up for once!

As for the rest of you I am glad that you find my posts interesting but, sorry to say they are not meant for any of you that reply. But I am still glad that some of you still have the guts to want to know the truth about our so called country of Freedom.

Respectfully

ICEMAN8578

yeah, he is alive and kicking... alright, this should get really good now.

by the way, this is only my opinion, but hasn't a certain someone been gone from this board just long enough to go look up and research some "terms" and "info", just in time to come back here and ...

well you get my drift.

not naming names though, I'm still very skeptical about this one.

Originally posted by iceman8578
So I read through most of the posts to response to my first post. I find it interesting that none of you asked the right questions. First off any idiot can find out what training facility does what, and secondly any idiot can call a base on the phone or S4 if they have a friend in records, or Saint Louise, Missouri to find out instructors names and dates of service. Besides the fact that I would never give that information out to any one, that would be real smart on my part don't you think.

Ok as to training, I graduated from the House of Pain at Sandhill, Ft. Benning 11B10 . I will tell you our class was one of the last classes to see Harmony Church because just after we were assigned to Sand Hill they tore it down. The last line should give you a hint to when I was stationed there. From there I was stationed at Campbell, 3/327th inf. And then on to Sherman as part of the 101st Air Assault training divisions. From there pathfinders, echo company and did my training 10th Mountain Division from there off to 25th ID for bubble, UDT training and amphibious insertion training. From there studied for my EIB and would earn my CIB in Desert Storm took my HALO at the proving grounds, became an NCO just after that and was stationed with the Ravens as an FO in Columbia. And by the way I believe I said Kota Marudo and the Boarder of Borneo for Malaysian Man Tracker School if I missed the word �and� well tough luck. And by the way genius my wife still lives there with my son, no thanks to the US Army!! And many other schools and training classes that I am not at liberty to discuss with you all. And as for all the information that I spoke about , first off I wasn�t writing about it to spark any of you small brains in here, it was meant for the other people in here that read these posts.

Now you all are about asking questions so here is one for you. For the jerky that says he was X military tell me son what is building #1 on any post?, and what is at the top of that building?, and what is it used for smart guy? And by the way the jacket that you keep flashing around like it is some big thing I can pull from just about any VA center in the country ROFLOL.

That should make all of you so called military know it all�s, shut up for once!

As for the rest of you I am glad that you find my posts interesting but, sorry to say they are not meant for any of you that reply. But I am still glad that some of you still have the guts to want to know the truth about our so called country of Freedom.

Respectfully

ICEMAN8578

Well Iceman, I'd say you have your work cut out for you. Some very good arguments were posed here (like some of your info that's online wouldn't be if you are ex-specops). Maybe that online info isn't you -- you might want to address that. Your prolonged silence has not helped your cause so rebuilding credibility would be my first objective.

Let's keep it clean gentlemen....

Iceman, nice to see you are alive.


I am curious as to why you decided to take the approach that you did. Rather than try to deny all of the things that people were able to find out about you, you choose to just post some more useless information.

Why don't you answer up to some of the questions that were posted? Surely there were a couple that you could have answered.

When did the Army start undergoing UDT training? Do you even know what UDT means?

Well, iceman8578, I necer doubted ya. BTW, I'm not a Colonel---just a militant with a keyboard. I do lawyer work in real life. I just would like to know all that stuff you were mentionin g---dare you mention it, if you would mention it as you said you would.

Originally posted by StarChild
To AlnilamOmega:

Everything except the E-7 part. There is no way this guy made it that high. My guess is this.

U.S. Army 1998 - 2002

E-4 / Infantry (Infant? :lol

Starchild, im glad u got a giggle from that, but to be quite honest it offended me. As a veteran, as a patriot, as an American. 11Bravo, bullet stoppers, grunts, cannon fodder, whatever u want to call us, the INFANTRY are the ones that do the fighting and dieing. Giggle at the REMFs, but dont giggle at the grunts. (REMF is a term ICEMAN can explain.)
I cant vouch for this guy but i will throw in my 2 cents.
I went to Ft. Benning. 11BC2 OSUT. I WAS THE LAST ROTATION to go thru HARMONY CHURCH. Iceman said he was in sand hill (sand HILTON as we used to call it)
Harmony church was demolished in late '88 early '89.
Assuming he joined fresh out of high school that would make him around 34 or 35.
I have both my EIB and CIB and was curious which one is more prestigious in your eyes ICE.
Im also curious if you can tell me four little things that i use to see if someone was really infantry, because it seems every former military person i meet was special ops or navy seal or something. (which is IMPOSSIBLE)
1. whats the creed of the infantry?
2. whats the color of the infantry?
3. who is the king of battle?
4. whose statue is at ft. benning?

[Edited on 9-4-2004 by aware]

Originally posted by Colonel
Well, iceman8578, I necer doubted ya. BTW, I'm not a Colonel---just a militant with a keyboard. I do lawyer work in real life. I just would like to know all that stuff you were mentionin g---dare you mention it, if you would mention it as you said you would.

I agree with ya, Colonel

Maybe he's keeping us in suspense until Easter Sunday??
It seems like he's had plenty of time ti divulge whatever truths or secrets he has?

I am the Infantry, Queen of Battle! For two centuries
I have kept our Nation safe, Purchasing freedom with my blood. To tyrants, I am the day of reckoning; to the suppressed, the hope for the future. Where the fighting is thick, there am I...
I am the Infantry! FOLLOW ME!

The color is light blue

Field Artillery

Wilbur M. Brucker

And by the way to who ever asked what UDT was it is Under Water Demolition Team (And just for your info it is not just for BUDS members jerky) we have several Bubbles in the US Army

And now answer this tell me what P2P Chloride is smart guy, funny how all of you think you know so much LOL

Most of you ask the dumbest questions, no wonder no one believes what is written on this site.

And for the guy that asked about REMF�s by the way we call them POGS 11/hotels are the worse of them

And also I take it you must have asked about the KING thing because you are 13/C

EIB is harder because you had to work for it (you should know what I am talking about) any jerky that hopes off the plane in combat can get a CIB

Seems there are so called X= NCO�s in here but no one seems to answer my question about building #1 on any post, and what is at the top of that building, and what it is used for. And for any one to get there NCO commission it is one of the first questions on the test you studied the most.

And every NCO remembers that question because you and your buddies pounded it into each others heads for days before the test. Because it was the answer that if you got it wrong no matter how many other questions you got right you failed the exam.

And my creed is �DE OPRESSO LIBER�

Just seems to me, none of the things Ice has said were to contraversial, He spoke of a Fellow person being Killed for knowing to much, My Father (passed away Now) Has told me of many stories like these in OPs in Vietnam He also was an NCO and taught at West Point. None of the things ICE has said surprise me much. I for one do believe he know what he says, and I hope he can help for the memory of his friend and other fallen brothers.

What I think is funny , more people probaly believe Bob Lazar more. He spoke nothing of Aliens, Nothing of Paranormal, only of Lies by our Goverment.

Just my 2 Cents

is this going to turn into, who knows more abrieviations used by the armed forces and who was where and when ?

I sure hope not...

isn't building number one for tatical observation on top a readly available sharp shot?

[Edited on 9-4-2004 by Trance]

ICE,
So now you are claiming to be an NCO?

Then why did you pick the title Special Ops Officer Speaks Out. You do realize that you are making the claim of being a commisioned officer by saying that.

By doing so you are in direct violation of the UCMJ.

May want to consider changing that title.

BTW, we are still waiting for the following things that you promised all the way back in the original post:

I have dates, times, people involved, locations, operation names, people in government that were in charge, and many many Doc. from with inside Spec Ops from working projects that are not on the books.

Originally posted by iceman8578
And for any one to get there NCO commission it is one of the first questions on the test you studied the most.
And my creed is �DE OPRESSO LIBER�

Wait a minute, I certainly wasn't "SDpecial Forces" but I WAS U.S.C.G and I damn sure know that NCO = NON Commissioned Officer... Is this a simple Faux Paux or what?!

Seems that the words "to get his NCO Commission" would be mutually EXCLUSIVE yes?

Just wondering...

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