Question? NASA # 2 Moon

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
According to the Bible, Archaeologist here on earth and Scientist Archaeologist (Astronauts) they agree in a celestial battle in the Heavens, our Moon was part of the Battle field more than 9 thousand years ago. still there is ruins on the moon as well as Mars. The Moon astronauts found an ancient Cyborg head and a space craft half way out the Moons surface, on Mars they found human look a like skull's, Pyramids and Ruins from intelligent civilisations. The geometry of this structures are to good to be ignored for opened minded people, there is no way those structure are made by nature. for me it seems that a huge part of our human history is denied from us from our government.

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Couldn't agree more. It seems we may not be the first earth bound human civilisation to become technologically advanced and travel out to the moon and possibly Mars. The more I see photographs of structures on both of these celestial bodies the more convinced I become that NASA Isn't telling us what they really found. And lets face it, Farouk El Baz, a NASA scientist came right out and said it in an interview he gave to, I think it was Saga magazine.
" Not All Discoveries Have Been Disclosed. . !"

Thanks

Delete please, Im trying to link a video but I cant, can some one help? moderator please?



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Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
And lets face it, Farouk El Baz, a NASA scientist came right out and said it in an interview he gave to, I think it was Saga magazine.
" Not All Discoveries Have Been Disclosed. . !"

Nice sound bite. A little too brief unless one is very prone to jumping to conclusions based on little information or hearing what they want to hear.

A full context quote might be a bit more helpful. Maybe you could find the original source for us, or maybe not. Like your Douglas MacArthur "quote".

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Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
And lets face it, Farouk El Baz, a NASA scientist came right out and said it in an interview he gave to, I think it was Saga magazine.
" Not All Discoveries Have Been Disclosed. . !"

Nice sound bite. A little too brief unless one is very prone to jumping to conclusions based on little information or hearing what they want to hear.

A full context quote might be a bit more helpful.

Actually the El Baz quote was in Saga magazine when he was asked (I think I'm right here) about Apollo astronauts using code words during their transmissions. El Baz agreed that they seemed to be using code words and then went on to say that not all discoveries have been disclosed. Admittedly, those discoveries could be that the moon is full of interesting ancient structures or it could be something less exciting and dull, but it's open to debate.

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That is not a source nor does it provide the full context of the statement.

That is also your "source" for the bogus MacArthur quote you provided before.

Originally posted by Phage
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That is not a source nor does it provide the full context of the statement.

That is also your "source" for the bogus MacArthur quote you provided before.

So MacArthur's speech is fake right? it never happened right? I just came out with it jut to bug the hell out of you or maybe to read what you had to say, humm. Interesting. So why his speech is documented since 1955? I mean you know all the answers right? so tell us if this is something that my eyes interpreted like a face on Mars.



Now you think that I'm still seeing thing with this photo? or thats an another abnormally of my vision? doesn't it look like a Pyramid to us?

Or check out Sedonia for a second and tell me I'm still seeing thing, my eyes sees this and my brain interpret like a face on Mars and Pyramids as well, but is not truth cause NASA doesn't confirms it. but I still seeing thing that my thought still tells me that this is a Face on Mars so call Sedonia. anomaly's yea right. you don't have to be a Brain surgeon or High Tech NASA scientist to tell your self what this thing are.
(Sedonia Mars) Do you think they want us to know the truth with all this filtering going on on this high resolution photos?


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Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
This is an official photo release from NASA from Sedonia Mars

Check your data, "Luis". That image is from the ESA, not NASA. It says so right on the image.

Knowing this, you can see that the conspiracy is world-wide. All the world's space agencies are in on it. The Europeans, the Russians, the Japanese, Chinese, Indians... It goes on and on! They are all under NASA's thumb to keep the truth from us. Everybody knows this.

Of course, the 30-year-old Viking image of the Cydonia face is the most rock-solid evidence. Thank you for reminding us of this.

And welcome to ATS! I can tell you will be a valuable contributor to the community.

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Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX


So MacArthur's speech is fake right? it never happened right?

Yes, that's right. It never happened. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, there is no record of him ever having made that statement.


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Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX


So MacArthur's speech is fake right? it never happened right?

Yes, that's right. It never happened. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, there is no record of him ever having made that statement.


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To tell you the truth is bad to be you, you are here just to put counterweight to the opposite from you. Either you didn't read what he posted or you are just counterweighting, look and read carefully what they stated on his search.

General MacArthur described himself as “a confirmed optimist” regarding the possibility of another world war, Mayor Lauro said…He believes that because of the developments of science all the countries of the earth would have to unite to survive and make a common front against attack by people from other planets. The politics of the future would be cosmic, or interplanetary, in General MacArthur’s opinion, the Mayor continued. He quoted the military leader as saying that a thousand years from now todays civilisation would appear as obsolete as the stone age.”

even this? if it didn't came from MacArthur mouth in that interview still happend in 1955 MacArthur didn't say other wise to Mayor Lauro, I wouldn't whant any body going public under my name saying things I didn't say. Don't know about you but I wouldn't. you just another guy in my list that dosent do his home work and wants people to cut-it out for him for then counterweight the subject.

Originally posted by IAttackPeople

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
This is an official photo release from NASA from Sedonia Mars

Check your data. That image is from the ESA, not NASA. It says so right on the image.

Knowing this, you can see that the conspiracy is world-wide. All the world's space agencies are in on it. The Europeans, the Russians, the Japanese, Chinese, Indians... It goes on and on! They are all under NASA's thumb to keep the truth from us. Everybody knows this.

Of course, the 30-year-old Viking image of the Cydonia face is the most rock-solid evidence. Thank you for reminding us of this.

And welcome to ATS! I can tell you will be a valuable contributor to the community.

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Big Thanks

[edit on 10-12-2008 by BIONICLE ALEX]

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX

To tell you the truth is bad to be you, you are here just to put counterweight to the opposite from you. Either you didn't read what he posted or you are just counterweighting, look and read carefully what they stated on his search.

General MacArthur described himself as “a confirmed optimist” regarding the possibility of another world war, Mayor Lauro said…He believes that because of the developments of science all the countries of the earth would have to unite to survive and make a common front against attack by people from other planets. The politics of the future would be cosmic, or interplanetary, in General MacArthur’s opinion, the Mayor continued. He quoted the military leader as saying that a thousand years from now todays civilisation would appear as obsolete as the stone age.”

even this? if it didn't came from MacArthur mouth in that interview still happend in 1955 MacArthur didn't say other wise to Mayor Lauro, I wouldn't whant any body going public under my name saying things I didn't say. Don't know about you but I wouldn't. you just another guy in my list that dosent do his home work and wants people to cut-it out for him for then counterweight the subject.

"The nations of the world will have to unite, for the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets."
General Douglas MacArthur- Oct. 8, 1955

He never said the words you quoted. If you think it is acceptable to use invented quotations as evidence, "it is bad to be you." If you think it is acceptable to falsely quote someone, "it is bad to be you."

At least you admit the quote is false but did you not notice that Lauro also said MacArthur was talking about "the politics of the future" and, "a thousand years from now"? There is nothing in Lauro's statement that says anything like "the next war will be an interplanetary war". There is no indication that MacArthur was making veiled comments about the government having secret knowledge about extraterrestrials. To imply otherwise is intellectual dishonesty. It is far, far more likely the comments (as paraphrased by a third party) were in reference to his belief that as the human race moves into space we may have to deal with the possibility of war with other species. Not surprising from a man like MacArthur. It was neither a unique or even original opinion.

I really don't care about your list, but you are wrong. I look for sources, I do research. I'm not like you, someone who sees a youtube video that uses false quotes and speculation and accepts it as fact.

I'm still waiting for the full context of the quote from Farouk El Baz. I've looked for it, have you?

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In keeping within the OP's starting toipic..

Most of the still photo's shown in the OP's opening video came from this website which I personally, have found to be very 'enlightening'. Worth a visit, if only to see more anomalies that the video didn't have time to show.

Since the OP did not specify his views regarding the content of this video, may I ask what are his views/opinions of it?.

OMG man that was written in his search the one that you said that he prove me wrong with. lol ok I get it

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"I'm still waiting for the full context of the quote from Farouk El Baz. I've looked for it, have you? "
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Hi Phage. I have been looking around for the full interview printed in the March 1974 issue of Saga Magazine without much luck . However, I found other research articles which also refer to the interview.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Part of the interview concerning the use of code words can be found here.

www2b.abc.net.au...

Hope this is of some use to you.

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Just gotta say first love that avatar!! "I always wanted that damn bike" lol feel abit like tetsuo

neways your post was funny and informitive and very logical.

I dunno what is going on at nasa, coverups or whatever but lets look at this in more detail..

We aint been back to the moon yes our computers "my phone" has more power than most of the pc's if not all in the 60's...

The other thing that strikes me is Why not send probes to the moon? why not send little rovers there? i mean its the moon ??? its close and we dont know much about it really other than lots of pics "old ones i may add" what happend to the Hi Rez ones from japan?... My point is forget mars !!

Lets make the moon "if there is nothing there" our first base? Oh but yea i forgot the moon is crappy dead rock.. well im sure it is but wtf is mars? a crappy dead read rock lol..

Nasa are full of xxxx and the moon should always come first, terra form it "not make it like earth" but put bases all over the thing make it a hotel who cares JUST DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN IGNORE IT and thats what i think nasa is doing..for some oddball reason!!

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Thanks, I tried too.

No context at all for the "discoveries" statement. The only thing quoted (all over the place) is those 9 words.

Not "announcing" a discovery is not the same as concealing it. I would hazard a guess that there were literally thousands of "discoveries" made during the Apollo program. Here's just one:

In November 1969, the Apollo 12 Lunar Module (LM, pronounced "lem") landed about 200 meters from Surveyor 3, a robotic probe that had landed on the Moon in April 1967. The Apollo 12 astronauts walked over to Surveyor 3 to photograph it and to retrieve some pieces for return to Earth. Right away, they noticed that most of Surveyor 3, which at launch was pristine white, had darkened to brown--a result of two-and-a-half years' exposure to extreme lunar conditions.

science.nasa.gov...

Was it announced that more than 1700 meteor hits on the moon were recorded?
www.lpi.usra.edu...

Interesting to some, but not the general public. Of course "not every discovery has been announced to the public". That would be ridiculous.

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Ignoring it like this you mean?

Moon Base Announced by NASA

news.nationalgeographic.com...

Getting the money for it is another matter.

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"Interesting to some, but not the general public. Of course "not every discovery has been announced to the public". That would be ridiculous. "
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Sorry but I can't agree with that statement. When NASA was created back in 1958 it was kept out of the military's hands so that it could be totally open, honest and share all it's findings with the people of the world. I thought that was the point of keeping it out of the clutches of the military! So it could be open and honest. . .
I don't see what would be so ridiculous for NASA to come clean and tell us what they've been keeping from us for all these years. And we all seem to agree that they are hiding (purposefully or otherwise) something? It's what that something is that keeps this, What's really on the moon, debate going. It may be evidence of past civilisations? It may be the discovery of precious metals? Maybe they found Swiss cheese. . . but they almost certainly found something odd.