Silver Spheres/Orbs--What are they?

Originally posted by JoeBarna
On the subject of weather balloons. I've seen one at 15,000 in the vicinity of Washington DC as I was climbing up to cruise altitude (I am an airline pilot). I was probably within a two miles of the balloon and could definitely make out the equipment suspended below it.

So the closer you are to a "sphere" means the greater chance you can tell if it's a weather balloon or not.

Well I actually launch weather balloons for a living, and not all weather balloons launched have instruments. For example, we launch 4 balloons a day. Two balloons, the 11z and 23z flights, have radio sondes attached and gather humidity, temp and wind data. We also launch balloons at 5z and 17z, these balloons do not carry instruments and are tracked using radar to determine wind data.

Just thought you should know that, but I dont believe what you saw was a weather balloon, otherwise you would've probably seen the metallic coloured target (used so radar can track easier), regardless of whether it was carrying instruments or not

By the way, your questioning of what you saw is exactly why so many of these sightings probably go unreported (as mine did for over 30 years). We try our best to come up with a rational explanation. Especially since all we see is a round ball. It took many years for me to finally accept that what I saw wasn't rational.

Keep your eyes open, you may see something again.

Oz,

Thanks for the post. Please clarify for me, where do you normally release these balloons? Do you conduct these ops anywhere near major airports or high air traffic areas?

reply to post by OzWeatherman


OzWeatherman, any chance you'd look at my photo and give your opinion?

At first glance, there appears to be one object in my photo. But if you look up from the brightest object, you'll see another. Then, if you look to the right of that one, you'll see a third. Then, below and to the right of that one...in the wisp of clouds...there's a fourth. I'll guess that the few people who clicked on my thread's link only saw the one "orb", not all four.

Here's a link to the photo that I've posted on Photobucket: LINK

JoeBarna's question's a darn good one. The "balloons" I saw were extremely close to the descent path into Auckland Int'l Airport.





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Originally posted by JoeBarna
Oz,

Thanks for the post. Please clarify for me, where do you normally release these balloons? Do you conduct these ops anywhere near major airports or high air traffic areas?

Im not sure about the US, but here, all our stations are located at airports or aerodromes. All Australias major airports for instance do have weather manned weather stations on site

I would assume that all sites at which weather balloons are released around the world, would be at airports due to the close association we have with aviation

[edit on 10/12/2008 by OzWeatherman]

reply to post by Fuggle


They do suspiciously look like weather balloons. If I was viewing mine as it was ascending thats what I would expect to see, however, we wouldnt release more than one at a time

Thanks Oz!

Fuggle, I didn't see the other three spheres either. So thanks for highlighting where I can find them on the picture. If they were balloons launched from the same site, I would expect them to travel in a linear motion. Your picture shows them in a different formation. Interesting...

reply to post by JoeBarna


That's all right, Joe. They're easy to miss.

I didn't have my Ruger with me, unfortunately. Regardless, I reckon they were out of range.

F

I actually joined because I was so fascinated by this trail cam photo they have posted on 'Coast to Coast AM' today....I looked to see if anyone here had mentioned it yet and didn't find it so I wish everyone would go look and post what you think. It's sort of silver orb like....you'll see.
www.coasttocoastam.com...

Hi everyone,


If there's something I know for sure, is that grey spherical unidentifiable objects exist. I've seen them myself.

I recently opened a thread about them here :

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Some of you might know & view me as a skeptic (of the ETH), which I am (or try to be) regarding the subject and my approach, but I do know one thing, UFOs (as unidentifiable even with enough data) DO EXIST and they can look spherical (or almost).



Cheers,
Europa aka Buck




[edit on 11-12-2008 by Europa733]

All I can say is "Thank Goodness For the Internet!"

Europa, you provided some excellent links. Thank you. The only thing I can tell you is that I believe because I saw something as well. The more info we all share, the better prepared we will be.

reply to post by JoeBarna

These things are so real. Frpm the Star of Bethlehem to the Foo Fighters they are part of our reality.

They are part of our reality.

I do regret not finding out about this site earlier. I've already learned quite a bit in just the past few days.

One more question: Can anybody help me find a site that can tell me what satellites (if any) passed over me on a certain date/time/location?

From what I've read, I may have witnessed another set of 3 orbs. This time I had three other people with me and we all saw the same thing. But I'm not sure they were orbs. I really think it was sunlight reflecting off of either a satellite or maybe the ISS. I want to be sure.

But I need historic data that goes back to July, 2007.

Probes of some kind, perhaps, from aliens, the future, alternate realities, or something else. Just like we send probes to the Moon, Mars, etc. Not every alternate reality would necessarily feel the need to send manned (aliened?) flying saucers into this reality. And it might be incredibly difficult to keep something alive in the transition, to boot. A simple probe might be able to find out what they -- whoever "they" are -- want to know.

People see them all the time, but nobody ever finds a crashed one -- or at least we don't know if anybody ever did. When they finish their work, or get damaged, they must just shift back into their original alternate reality, never leaving a trace.

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That is the same theory I kinda have too. We always think of people in the ships but what if they are unmanned probes. Just checking us out.

And as for nobody finding one, I think they did. When I was starting this whole UFO investigating thing, that’s the first thing I looked for. Information on the metallic spheres and if anyone ever found one. Well this website had the information it must have been maybe in 1999. The story was maybe in the 1960s or 1970’s, this kid who had found one and said that it was hovering over them for a while and it simply dropped and hit the ground. It made a hole in the ground and the farmers picked it up and took it in. They took pictures of the kid and the sphere and it was on the news paper clippings. I remember seeing the pics of the kid and the sphere and they said the sphere would hum or vibrate. It was really bizarre, and they said they called the army and they took it away. I will see if I could find this story somewhere but I remember this way back.

I don't know if this is relavant to the present discussion. I have of course seen a sphere and I do believe they are probes for gathering information.

I am also thinking that these spheres are the probes that the aliens I recall encountering so long ago, used to gather information. This is (I'm sorry) all just past life memory but as far as I know, much of it, or most of it is true.

This is related to an abduction that happened when a USAF crew was taken in 1953. They told me about the death of my pilot/neighbor which happened earlier in the same day I was taken. I was upset by his death and I thought maybe the aliens (or whomever they were), were responsible because of the coincidence in his crash happening the same day I was taken. They showed me some sort of recording that was taken of my friend's final moments - all very sad and tragic. From what I saw, not caused by aliens or anything like that. Anyways, I assume they were using some sort of a probe to gather the information I "saw" or later "witnessed". They had a huge amount of information even back then about earth history. It was a little like some sort of "world wide web", but I think it was accessed by thinking, rather than by typing. And the playback was more than a visual and sound recording, as I recall that I was immersed perhaps in the thoughts of my neighbor John in his final moments.

I can certainly appreciate how anyone reading this will not believe, but then again- you don't have to and for sure you were not there to witness this stuff.

Cheers all...

Just remember gang...we have stuff that many people dont know about and that is NOT classified.

This information comes from renowned researcher Dr. Jacques Vallee. He stated this fact, that may be related to this and other "UFO sightings" of spherical shaped objects.

Dr. Bob: Throughout your book, Revelations, you note that you have knowledge that the American government has created UFO-like craft as a type of monitoring device. Could you elaborate on these craft? What do they look like and ...?

Dr. Jacques Vallee: I think this is again, something that most ufologists have trouble believing. That anybody who follows for example, Aviation Week or Defense, Electronics or any of the high-tech magazines will actually see photographs of those things. I mean, some of them are, I'm sure some of them are classified. But many of them are not, for example, there are small spheres about one meter, you know, 3 or 4 feet in diameter, that can hover, they can move in any direction, almost silently or in some cases silently. They are used as ranging devices. For example, if you are going to fire a missile over a certain area in a battlefield, you need to know the exact direction and range of the target. And you're not in direct view of the target at that point, these devices will carry lasers and ranging devices that will identify the target for you and guide the missile. Those things have been, you know, technically achievable certainly for the last ten years. These can be used for reconnaissance, they could carry a camera. They're essentially platforms, remotely piloted platforms, that can, that are highly maneuverable.

UFO does NOT = Alien ....until proven otherwise. While I would find it alarming if "ranging devices for firing a missile over a certain areas" were floating all over town, I think the applications have changed over the years.. more than likely they are used for surveillance now... still kinda creepy though..





[edit on 12-12-2008 by Alter-Ego]

Originally posted by Alter-Ego
This information comes from renowned researcher Dr. Jacques Vallee. He stated this fact, that may be related to this and other "UFO sightings" of spherical shaped objects.

Dr. Bob: Throughout your book, Revelations, you note that you have knowledge that the American government has created UFO-like craft as a type of monitoring device. Could you elaborate on these craft? What do they look like and ...?

Dr. Jacques Vallee: I think this is again, something that most ufologists have trouble believing. That anybody who follows for example, Aviation Week or Defense, Electronics or any of the high-tech magazines will actually see photographs of those things. I mean, some of them are, I'm sure some of them are classified. But many of them are not, for example, there are small spheres about one meter, you know, 3 or 4 feet in diameter, that can hover, they can move in any direction, almost silently or in some cases silently. They are used as ranging devices. For example, if you are going to fire a missile over a certain area in a battlefield, you need to know the exact direction and range of the target. And you're not in direct view of the target at that point, these devices will carry lasers and ranging devices that will identify the target for you and guide the missile. Those things have been, you know, technically achievable certainly for the last ten years. These can be used for reconnaissance, they could carry a camera. They're essentially platforms, remotely piloted platforms, that can, that are highly maneuverable.

UFO does NOT = Alien ....until proven otherwise. While I would find it alarming if "ranging devices for firing a missile over a certain areas" were floating all over town, I think the applications have changed over the years.. more than likely they are used for surveillance now... still kinda creepy though..
[edit on 12-12-2008 by Alter-Ego]

If you are going to quote someone, please provide the reference from which it is quoted. I am tempted to say ... total crap.
Even if Dr. Vallee did say this, (which I highly doubt), it is utter total crap.

If not, why would the USAF and US military be going through all the expense to develop surveillance craft using technologys we are all totally aware of as are used for the latest and greatest unmanned surveillance probes using totally conventional turbine engines and conventional flight as is used in fighter aircraft.

SIGH....


Here ya go, but since I went to the trouble of looking it up..please read it all.

What? Did you think I just made it up..and said he said it? Its a great write up of a radio interview with him back in 1993 I believe.. you might even learn something new!



He even goes on to say this:

Dr. Bob: So, some can, are in the area of 8 inches up to 3 feet spheres? Is that correct Jacques?

Dr. Jacques Vallee: I think they would be at least 1 foot, I don't. have exact knowledge of this, ok? And I'm not privy to those characteristics. But, the ones that I know about, would be in the range of 1 to 4 feet. Of course, there is a whole range of remotely piloted vehicles that are well documented in Jane's catalogs for example, that have been used since WWII and those are essentially model airplanes or model helicopters that can carry devices that can be piloted by radio. Those have been in existence for a long time and they're well known.

As a matter of fact Ill go one step further... dont take my word for it..CLICK HERE and you can order the audio tapes for yourself and hear the interview in Dr. Vallee's own words. (If you can find a working cassette player anymore )










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