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US is in genuine danger of losing Afghanistan

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posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Report: Taliban now encircle Kabul

rawstory.com...


Taliban now have presence in 3/4 of country
The Taliban now have a presence in nearly three-quarters of Afghanistan, and are beginning to encircle its capital, Kabul, according to a new thinktank report.

According to the report, the Taliban hold a permanent presence in 72 percent of Afghanistan, though Hamid Karzai's Afghan government says the figures "aren't credible."

The Paris-based International Council on Security and Development, which has offices in Afghanistan, says that Taliban fighters have advanced from the south of the country and now carry out regular attacks in the west and northwest.

In many places in the south, they hold power normally associated with a government, the Council says.

"While the international community's prospects in Afghanistan have never been bleaker, the Taliban has been experiencing a renaissance that has gained momentum since 2005," the report said. "The West is in genuine danger of losing Afghanistan."


Ok, so after all the war, lives, money...this?


The drug money is just too intoxicating for them to lose it now...



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 08:23 PM
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People sometimes doesn't get it due to the propaganda that is spoon fed to them.

Afghanistan has never been under the control of the US never the only part of Afghanistan that US can claim as "in control is the main city where th puppet government is located because US needed to show that Afghanistan was becoming a US style democracy.

The rest of the nation has never been in control of the prop Afghanistan government and the entire nation has always been Taliban.

Because that is what the people in Afghanistan is, members of the Taliban.

And that is how it will be.



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Because that is what the people in Afghanistan is, members of the Taliban.

And that is how it will be.




You tell em, marg!

But hey, wait!

What about Obama's pledge to rotate in 20,000 more troops next year....??



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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That will be 20,000 less people that he needs to add to the mammoth bail he is planning to give jobs to the decaying work force in the nation.

Our troops will be detained oversea as long as needed because is not jobs for them to come back to so hey they as well can go and invade Afghanistan one more time.



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 09:04 PM
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Sheesh marg, and I thought I was cynical.


In a related report:

Private Contractors Sought As Guards in Afghanistan

www.washingtonpost.com...


The U.S. Army is looking to private contractors to provide armed security guards to protect Forward Operating Bases in seven provinces in southern Afghanistan. In a recent study, Anthony H. Cordesman, an intelligence expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, described five of those provinces -- Helmand, Kandahar, Nimruz, Zabol and Uruzgan -- as among the most dangerous parts of Afghanistan.

The proposed contracts would be for a minimum of one year, beginning Jan. 1, but with options to continue for four years. The move to hire contractors to provide armed guards comes as the United States is deploying more American troops to Afghanistan and looking to double the size of the Afghan National Army from 80,000 to 162,000 over the next five years.

Ironically, a year ago, there was a crackdown on private security contractors in Afghanistan, including a U.S.-based company, because of complaints of fraud. At that time, however, the private guards were protecting U.S. Agency for International Development employees and their contractors, not U.S. military bases.

In a Nov. 26 notice, the Army said the proposed guards would protect the entry control points of the bases to prevent "threats related to unauthorized personnel, contraband, and instruments of damage, destruction and information collection from entering the installation."

...The guards will be armed, "at a minimum," with AK-47s and 120 rounds of ammunition with four magazines that have 30-round capacity. They all must carry identification documents and a letter authorizing the carrying of a weapon, but off-duty personnel "shall not carry concealed weapons," the solicitation specified.


AK47's? Why? To be indistinguishable from the noise of Afghan AK47's?

4 years? Where's the news that we want to hear from the Dems that we are pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq? :shk: Liars.



posted on Dec, 9 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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The troops will be re deployed to different areas that needs them most, that is what Obama is telling.

He never said that he will pull out completely from the middle east like many think he will do.

He will cut the defense spending and perhaps the incredible money leeches in the private industry that is working in the middle east thanks to Rumsfeld and Bush policies of a Private interest first and privatization the military.

I doubt that the private security firms will become in demand as they were back during the Bush administration.

I believe that now our military will be doing the security under Obama and like that money will be save from the defense spending.

Obama will not bring any troops back until his proposed bail out plan to revive the economy to supply Americans with job is put in place.



[edit on 9-12-2008 by marg6043]



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