Former ISI Chief: Mumbai And 9/11 Both "Inside Jobs"

Former ISI Chief: Mumbai And 9/11 Both "Inside Jobs"

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Asked by Zakaria, “What is your hunch as to who did - who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?,” Gul responded, “Well, I have been on record, and I said it is the Zionists or the neocons. They have done it. It was an inside job.”

“And they wanted to go on the world conquerors. They were looking upon it as an opportunity window, when the Muslim world was lying prostrate. Russia was nowhere in sight. China was still not an economic giant that is has turned out to be.”

“And they thought that this was a good time to go and fill those strategic areas, which are still lying without any American presence. And, of course, to control the energy tap of the world.”

“Presently, it is the Middle East, and in future it is going to be Central Asia,” added Gul.

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Wow and people wonder why the propaganda machines are racheting up against Pakistan. Maybe I need to take another look on my stance in Pakistan. All the billions of dollars given to Pakistan in the form of "aid" from the US government could of been for hush money? You keep quiet and we will take care of you and if you dont we'll get you taken out? He is correct on past terrorist attacks in India that was initially blamed on Pakistan Muslim nuts but turned out to be Hindu nuts. Interesting.

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Its good to see this *Snip* squirming for his life by deflecting any blame.

Gul was the mastermind behind the Taliban. Up until recently, he had it as an open success on his CV (back when the Taliban were owning the Russians in Afghanistan).

Gul was also the mastermind behind numerous overt attacks, terrorist attacks and terrorist training leading to numerous civilian casualties.


To take the word of such a man would show incredible naivety.

Please take some time to research a source before using it to back up claims of false flags or inside jobs. Using Gul as a source is no more reliable than using Bin Laden as a source for the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

en.wikipedia.org...

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[edit on 8-12-2008 by MemoryShock]

Ok fair enough but here is my point. Our government has given Billions with a B of dollars to Pakistan when people like Gul held the reigns. If this guy was as bad as you say he is then why did we give him so much money to play with?

Also didnt Gul work with the CIA heavily during the Soviet Occupation?



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Quoting - Please review this link


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Yeah thats what Im trying to say.

The US government was on the wrong side the whole time. US policy to Pakistan has always been to desperately try and cultivate it into something it is not- ie a free world democracy.

The US supported Pakistan blindly simply to counteract Russian influence in India. This was a short sighted and misaligned policy brought into place by the arch-moron Kissinger.

Much as the US supported Bin Laden (via CIA funding and training), the US has also been supplying billions in military aid to Pakistan, which they are in turn using to train terrorists to attack India.

The US realpolitik machine failed miserably! That is the real conspiracy here... not that 9/11 or Mumbai were inside jobs, but that the US supported the terrorists in both instances by short sighted foreign policy objectives.

Yep, once again the plot of those 5 million Jews in the world out to dominate all 5 BILLION people on earth.

This is just another anti-Jewish diatribe. It is meaningless drivel, and those that listen to it are nothing but a bunch of racist fools.

But then again, that's the kind of folks that look for this crap, and post it everywhere they possibly can. Racist morons.


By the way, I am not Jewish, have no Jews in my ancestry and have no ties to Israel. I am of Scots, English and American Indian ancestry, and happen to be Roman Catholic. Just wanted to set the record straight.

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
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Yeah thats what Im trying to say.

The US government was on the wrong side the whole time. US policy to Pakistan has always been to desperately try and cultivate it into something it is not- ie a free world democracy.

The US supported Pakistan blindly simply to counteract Russian influence in India. This was a short sighted and misaligned policy brought into place by the arch-moron Kissinger.

Much as the US supported Bin Laden (via CIA funding and training), the US has also been supplying billions in military aid to Pakistan, which they are in turn using to train terrorists to attack India.

The US realpolitik machine failed miserably! That is the real conspiracy here... not that 9/11 or Mumbai were inside jobs, but that the US supported the terrorists in both instances by short sighted foreign policy objectives.

Ok Ill give you that because that is my stance also as of now. But here is my issue. Arent we on the wrong side quite a bit? This is why I second guess my own stances because for some reason we are on the side of some of the countries we end up fighting. Example....

Iraq-We gave Sadam millions on weapons both conventional and biological to be used on Iran when Iraq invaded Iran. Keep in mind that term Iraq invaded Iran. A dictator invaded a quazi democracy and we supported the dictator. Then years later we paint Sadam as some evil man but yet we supported him.

Afghanistan we support elements of what would come to be the Taliban to fight off the Soviets. Same story we supplied them with arms and money to ward off the evil soviets. Then 20 years later we call them terrorists and every name in the book for living their lifestyle that they live.

Pakistan I did a thread on all the crap we have done for these guys not going to explain over but check it here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I mean over and over we are on the side of one group then a few years later they are the evilest of evil. So were they that way before or after we supported these groups. This is what annoys the hell out of me. The double standard and its this double standard that I see over and over that leads me to believe 9/11 was an inside job. I know Im not alone here also. Our government needs to get its priorities straight period.

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You're quite right. Dont forget the CIA's worst mistake... which was overthrowing Mossadegh of Iran in favour of an unelected king.

I think the only way that the situation will stabilize overall is if the USA decides to pursue a more non-aligned foreign policy. Most US policies work in the short term for big oil and the military-industrial complex; but overall they always create a headache for everyone.

The USA is even today pursuing tactics that could backfire, by supporting the Afghan Northern Alliance, putting minority Kurds into power in Iraq (might they want to exact revenge upon the Sunnis who treated them so badly for decades?).

India is also making similar mistakes by supporting the Balochi separatist movement in Balochistan... in the end the Balochis hate Indians and if they ever formed a new state they would be equally hostile to Indians. RAW is dropping a problem from the frying pan into the fire.

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Its 8 arms, not 8 heads my short tempered pakistani friend.

And I dare to call him a bastard because this guy has openly supported Bin Laden and the Kashmiri terrorists; and formed the Taliban. How are you surprised? Im a Hindu... I hate all Islamic terrorists, of which Gul is undoubtedly an impassed supporter.

Dont worry, you will have your proof soon enough. Aside from the fact that he has made overt, open claims of support for Bin Laden; his involvement in starting the Taliban and aiding the LeT will soon come out. The UNSC will soon be classifying him a terrorist; and he will be dealt with accordingly.

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Originally posted by 44soulslayer
reply to post by mybigunit

 

You're quite right. Dont forget the CIA's worst mistake... which was overthrowing Mossadegh of Iran in favour of an unelected king.

Oh dont worry I didnt forget I bring it up all the time. I was just in a hurry typing and didnt put it down but I think you get the point.

Gul was head of ISI, which was created by the CIA. OBL and AQ were created by the CIA to overthrow the Russians in Afghanistan. We pour billions into Pakistan and offer them only the mutest criticism of nuclear proliferation (Khan).

The CIA station chief in Pakistan during the Taliban years (forget his name, sorry) popped up on the CBS evening news the day after 9/11 to say that, though OBL was a bad guy, AQ did not have the infrastructure to carry off something as complex as 9/11. He said the US govt. must look at state-supported actors, as in his estimation 9/11 could not have been pulled off otherwise.

Well, add it all up and what do you conclude?

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How dare you call him a bastard you 8 headed elephant worshipper.He's not scared of US or you hindu bastards and he will not stand back because of US's or indias lame threats.Let me make one thing clear,Gul or ISI cannot be get rid off no matter how much pressue is put on them.They are the soul of Pakistan.

and that ISI is literally controlled by CIA, refer the book 'the Grand Chessboard', that fascist american geostrategist Brezinski stated that ISI is literally controlled by CIA , yep read it ...

in fact neither pak govt nor army , controls the ISI as much as CIA ,

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Originally posted by sadchild01
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and that ISI is literally controlled by CIA, refer the book 'the Grand Chessboard', that fascist american geostrategist Brezinski stated that ISI is literally controlled by CIA , yep read it ...

in fact neither pak govt nor army , controls the ISI as much as CIA ,

So if its all CIA controling everything than why does the world and these hindus keep blaming pakistan for terrorism?

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i don't know where to start from you america lover ........

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So if its all CIA controling everything than why does the world and these hindus keep blaming pakistan for terrorism?

because thats the only easy 'evidence' it has and RAW(research analysis wing) is a failure , which India has and indian govt is scared of USA ,,in fact Brezhnev,leader of USSR had provided good evidence to india about CIA terror funding and CIA plans for India , after all CIA loves divide and conquer, sadly Hindus and muslims , are lapping up corporate kook aid on war of terror


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I thought india and US were really close freinds than why would india be scared of US? RAW is more likely to be closer to CIA than ISI at the moment.

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Originally posted by t0ken

Originally posted by sadchild01

So if its all CIA controling everything than why does the world and these hindus keep blaming pakistan for terrorism?

because thats the only easy 'evidence' it has and RAW(research analysis wing) is a failure , which India has and indian govt is scared of USA ,,in fact Brezhnev,leader of USSR had provided good evidence to india about CIA terror funding and CIA plans for India , after all CIA loves divide and conquer, sadly Hindus and muslims , are lapping up corporate kook aid on war of terror

I thought india and US were really close freinds than why would india be scared of US? RAW is more likely to be closer to CIA than ISI at the moment.

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indian adminstration has infiltrated by pro-US puppets like Montek Ahulwahia , a former IMF economist, now remeber IMF , they are biggest destroyers of third world and american financial terrorists

why is india suddenly so pro-US,despite the fact USA is in decline ...

RAW is more likely to be closer to CIA than ISI at the moment.

let me repeat again ,RAW is a failure , in fact CIA ,mossad and maybe even ISI are more effective

Maj Gen V K Singh, author of India’s external intelligence — secrets of Research and Analysis Wing, stated i n his book that RAW is a failure , and has been potentially infiltrated/controlled by Western interests(CIA,MI6)

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[Gul was the mastermind behind the Taliban]

Sure, but who bolstered the Taliban during the war they had with Russia?

Yes, the USA.