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Is there a Hall of Shame for predictions and prophecy to go? How many other things was the webbot wrong on? I hope people learn they are being distracted for other important business.

We are suffering from subzero temps here tonight, but I wanted to come on for a minute to say that I have all the pre EQ symptoms.

Let me explain, right before an EQ I get headache and shaking along with extreme sleepiness. I should be amped up for the Holidays and singing and dancing, I am not.

Tonight I feel so shaky it almost makes me want to vomit.

We will see within the day or so if my symptoms were because of this storm we are facing or as in the past a precursor to a very bad event.

Originally posted by interestedalways
Then why do you spend so much time here if the members of this community are so far beneath you and your intellect, why waste your time???

Do you just come here to argue?

Just wondering.............

I view the predictions forum because its a train wreck in progress. "So much time" is about 15 to 20 minutes a day. I am sorry if you don't approve. Frankly, I don't care what you think.

I still hold out hope for someone to make a prediction based on things that can be backed up.

Do you just come here to question those who don't believe the same as you do and put words in peoples mouths in an attempt to appear smear people?

Just wondering....

I don't care who made the prediction. It was wrong. The "webbot" has been wrong time and again and there is no reason to think it is doing any better than random chance. People should stop believing in it - or anything else that offers constant visions of doom.

[edit on 15-12-2008 by LowLevelMason]

I personally have not lost the belief in what the web-bots or questionall are doing. This is not about someone’s predictions. It is about possibilities.

I APLODE THEM FOR LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY.

Fact – there is strange animal activity.
Fact the computer indicated a window of some kind of trouble.
We may not know the full impact of it yet or maybe because it is an event that has such high energy associated to it that it is more difficult to give it an exact time frame.

We still do not have an explanation to why the animals are acting strange or why some are having personal indication of some kind of big event. Until we know the answer to this as far as I am concerned this is not closed.

Originally posted by MrObserver


Fact – there is strange animal activity.

really? because animals never act strangley. no it cant be just people looking too hard for subjective evidence. no your right i saw a dog today take a dump on the left side of the sidewalk instead of the right.

im now a believer

Here is some more strange mammal news for this thread.


01 December 2008 Beached whales die in Australia [Keyword: stranding ]
About 150 whales have died after being stranded in a remote coastal area of the Australian island of Tasmania.

Many of the long-finned pilot whales, which were discovered on Saturday, had been badly injured by jagged rocks.

Rescuers did manage to shepherd about 30 whales trapped in shallow reefs to safety using a small boat, an official said.

Whales pass Tasmania as they migrate to and from Antarctic waters and stranding is not uncommon.

Last week 11 whales were rescued after more than 60 became stranded off another part of the island.

Local residents and experts had worked to help this group of whales, stranded near Sandy Cape in north-west Tasmania, but most had been injured by rocks and reefs.

Officials moved one stranded whale that was calling to a group offshore, in a bid to prevent further deaths.

"Unfortunately, that whale died but what happened then was those 30 whales milling around seemed more willing to move on and with a boat in the water we managed to shepherd them out of the bay," Warwick Brennan, a spokesman for the department of primary industries and water, told AAP news agency.

Pilot whales are among the smaller whales, growing to about 5m (16ft) in length.
Scientists are not sure what causes whales to beach.

Source: bbc.co.uk

Heavy earthquake hits southern Sweden this morning


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by ll__raine__ll
one question

do you denounce the webots as frauds or not questioningall?

No I do not denounce the webbot at all. They have been correct on previous earthquakes, hurricanes, weather events, power outages, national issues, global problems, the list goes on and on.

So understand - the basis of all of this - is because the webbot HAS BEEN RIGHT IN THE PAST ON PREDICTIONS!

I don't know if they will still be right on this one - due to that they get the event right - but the dates can be off.

But - I am more at peace with this event not happening with the dates they said.

I was censored for calling out the web-bot doomsdayers. And I'm sure other would agree with what I said!

reply to post by tsloan


Take it to u2u with me please not on the thread,

Thanks Asala,


Back to the topic at hand,

I noticed there was another small one in Missouriand one in Summerville, SC.
earthquake.usgs.gov...

I can't remember seeing one down there, so if anyone can find that, please post it. Also Marysville, TN again yesterday, although I didn't feel it, I'm not too far from there. Looks like that area is waking up just a bit, a little bit. I'm still wondering about the SC one though

earthquake.usgs.gov...

reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder


Since when does a 4.7 become a huge earthquake? Why do you post it in caps like it's a disasterous event? Why do you say in your other thread that it could be a precursor to something much worse? Hmm.. could it be more of the same doom and gloom fearmongering? Yes, yes I think it is.

Like I said.. earthquakes happen every day. Often in places they don't often occur. The world is a big place.

The fact of the matter is that the webbot was wrong. And I don't believe for a moment that a human "pooling" of conciousness would still be able to predict things like earthquakes. I can't predict them. If I got together with say, 100 people in my neighborhood, and we all guessed together, we'd be wrong. It's no different if 1 million people guess, it's still just a guess.

Webbot cannot predict earthquakes, clearly.

reply to post by fleabit


Sorry, but you are wrong about webbot not predicting quakes, they have done it quite correctly in the past. The one thing they have been wrong about with previous quakes though - is the timing. They have said different quakes would happen, but they would be off a few days.

I am glad it did not happen in the days forecasted and I am hopeful it still will not happen.

But this thread anyway - is still about the "odd animal behavior" that has been happening around the middle parts of the states.

Which is still going on...unless people from the area say it has returned to normal. So we still don't know why.

This is not he Odd animal behaviour thread of your Questioning. This is your Earthquake warning thread. Take a closer look at your thread titles next time, it will stop confusion.

reply to post by Trayen11


Yes, the EQ thread about "odd animal" behavior. It is more about the "odd" animal behaviors going on and questioning it being related to an EQ. So I knew what thread I was on, and wrote correctly.

Originally posted by questioningall

Originally posted by ll__raine__ll
one question

do you denounce the webots as frauds or not questioningall?

So understand - the basis of all of this - is because the webbot HAS BEEN RIGHT IN THE PAST ON PREDICTIONS!
.

see that's where you ran into problems. you still seem to hold on to false hope. web bot is always wrong. and the first person to pull up urbansurvival as a "credible" source will be entitled to a tongue lashing

Originally posted by chickenshoes
reply to post by Red Cloak

 

At the risk of looking silly:

How was that sarcasm? Apparently, either I'm sarcasm detecting impaired, or you need to improve your way of communicating.


I'm not trying to be rude, I truly don't understand, and if you could explain this, I'd really appreciate it

Ok, since you seem to be ignoring me Red Cloak, I'll ask you again. How was your post about Jim Berkland's supposed prediction sarcasm?

Here is a definition of sarcasm from Merriam-Webster dictionary online:

sarcasm
One entry found.


Main Entry:
sar·casm Listen to the pronunciation of sarcasm
Pronunciation:
\ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
Date:
1550

1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm
synonyms see wit

I'll be looking for your reply.

Thanks,
CS

The OP has already stated that they distinguish between knowledge and belief, and that should no quake occur, they will admit that their theory/prediction/interpretation/belief was incorrect.

Citing factual fallacy is one thing, as is genuinely trying to enlighten or educate someone in a respectful and cooperative fashion, out of the desire to help that person. Crossing the line from that to telling someone to denounce a personal belief or conviction (especially when that individual distinguishes between that belief and knowledge; i.e. they acknowledge that their belief could easily be wrong) is something all together different, in my opinion, and serves neither the goal of enlightenment nor the motive of helping that person. All it does it provide an ego boost.

People have the right to believe what they wish, and to do so without condemnation, when they acknowledge the difference between belief and empirical fact, and accept that their belief might be wrong. The OP has done this repeatedly. Once someone does that – and the OP has – then any further attempt to attack their belief has only one possible motive and goal: to convince them that they are wrong.

Beliefs stated as facts can be condemned as being factually wrong; personal beliefs are just that – personal – and should be respected and tolerated regardless of factual fallacy because they are not cited as facts but as personal beliefs and/or theories, in my view. The OP has not cited their beliefs as empirical facts, but rather as what they are; beliefs and/or suspicions. Thus debating them further is akin to debating someone’s religious or philosophical beliefs.

The web bot having predicted quakes successfully on the other hand is debatable, because it cannot be proved unequivocally that it predicted anything, since the possibility of pure coincidence has not been ruled out. When the OP states that the web bot did definitely predict quakes in the past, I would suggest that it instead be framed purely as an opinion or a belief, as this latest prediction/interpretation was.

I’m saying all of this as an open minded skeptic, mind you. It is possible that web bot has predicted quakes successfully in the past. It’s just also possible that its seeming predictions were coincidences.

That’s all beside the point I’m trying to make, however, which is that little is served – in my opinion – by trying to persuade someone that what they have demonstrated is merely a personal belief – not a factual claim – is wrong.

reply to post by questioningall


You know when you first posted this web bot stuff I did get frightened. I read up on the predictions, I read interviews regarding the programming, etc, and I think the frame of mind I was in sort of overrode my natural need to question and be skeptical.

Several institutes predicted the current economic collapse years prior. Fall is the time when such things happen because it is considered a time of Budget End Closeout and Fiscal Year Startup where people have to lay their cards out and really assess.

Earthquakes and natural disasters do happen and there are predictions with a large periodicity, granted, for most major natural disasters.

The solution lies in all cases with people. People choose where they live and either accept what comes with it, or not. People choose where they put their money, who they put their faith in, etc.

I think everyone should be prepared for the worst, so in that regard I think you did a good job. However, the thread titles could have been worded a bit differently.

Intention is everything in my book and I believe you intended to do good, so...keep trying to do so. Just rework the titles of the threads.

Take care.