posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 01:53 AM
Laughter? All through the Bible, the men and women who fully trusted and walked in the ways of G-d went through VERY troubled times.. not "soft"
hard times that most Americans are accustomed to, but TRULY hard times. And if you subscribe to the New Testament, it is PROMISED that you will not
have good times in this life, but rather that you WILL suffer for His name’s sake and that you will weep. This guy is lying from the get go and it
is not the gospel of even the New Testament.
G-d doesn’t want to take, but wants to give? G-d speaks over and over about giving to Him. There is a promise that if one is faithful through
actions in this life despite the troubles that they WILL suffer, after the resurrection, G-d will give joy and peace along with much more; but this
guy is very obviously giving the false hope that those promises will come NOW if they just “accept” G-d NOW.
Errr... this kind of message sets people up to not only fall, but almost guarantees their turning away from G-d permanently. PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID,
they are just given the wrong message by "feel good teachers and preachers" posing to be G-d's messengers
If you miss out on that, you are going to miss out on the whole point of your life? What? G-d giving? So, in essence, G-d is here for us? Is he
reading the same Bible I am reading?
“I think your life on earth on earth would be better if you don’t kill each other”… G-d said that? Uh, now I KNOW he isn’t reading the same
bible. God said “Thou shalt NOT kill” and He never once said it was because He THINKS life would be better on earth. He commanded it without
reason. The reason might be there intellectually, but let’s not go putting words in G-d’s mouth, especially when people who are NOT stupid are
reading that G-d killed more ppl than any human has. There may be reason for it, but you can’t justify that reasoning with the made up words this
guy said came from G-d.
G-d said “ If you guys were just k… KINDA honest with each other, if you could love each other, this place would be amazing?” BUUUZZZ!! Game
over! He didn’t say this either. He said “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” Not “Thou shalt KIND OF be honest with each other and this will
place will be amazing.” There are people who are honest who don’t really feel that this place is all that amazing. This guy is wrong for making up
promises and then attributing them to G-d… it makes this guy in the video a liar and thus unbelievable to many ppl.
I see what he is saying about people kind of freak out when they start looking at themselves…. KIND of agree. SOME people freak out and the wise
ones are the ones that turn to G-d and forsake those ways to bring honor for Him… but like he said in the video, there will be NO excuse because
just like the earth’s rotation around the sun is caused by the gravitational pull, so is our being pulled to something outside ourselves (again, as
is evident by THE THOUSANDS of posts on this board) so they are choosing to look everywhere but Him… thus, it isn’t “KIND OF freaking out,” it
is out right rebellion. Also, there ARE others who KNOW for a fact what that pull to search is and where it comes from and they are angry about it and
thus, they seek to pull down the “common” man.. to be their stumbling block because they have VERY personal issues with G-d.
He is right about how we look at the horrors and who is behind them and judge ourselves by them, thus feeling good that we aren’t THAT bad… but
trying to talk to people about there not being a curve when they see all the horrors going on does no good. In some ways, G-d will judge on a curve.
There are levels of punishment that are talked about in the bible… punishment may be punishment, but let’s not forget that, yes, there is a curve.
“Despite everything you’ve done in your life, G-d still loves you and he doesn’t *want* to punish you’? WRONG!!! Refer to the following verses
(abhor, according to the Merriam-webster dictionary “: to regard with extreme repugnance : LOATHE
synonyms see HATE”
:
Leviticus 20: 23 “You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I
abhorred them.”
Leviticus 26:30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I
will abhor you.
Psalms 5:6 You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors.
Psalm 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.
Psalm 78:59 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:
Proverbs 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.
Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
And read revelations for those that believe the New Testament. Doesn’t sound like despite everything one has done, that G-d will still love that
person. The love HAS A REQUIREMENT!!! And it ISN’T acceptance of G-d.
And see, I am still up in the air about Jesus…. I see too many mistakes in the text called the New Testament that has been put in my hand. While I
have recently, after much begging and crying (and still not smiling like that dude is bc I know that things aren’t peachy keen and they will only
get worse before we see the promise in the OLD testament come to pass) come to actually sympathize and in fact empathize with G-d, I can’t see an
inspired work of His having as many errors as there are in the New Testament; not to mention the G-d of the old testament says that there is NO other
gods that were formed before Him nor will there or are there any formed after Him. Jesus as the son of G-d? maybe… just as it calls many men in the
bible “sons of G-d”…. Our Saviour? Well, if one doesn’t believe the G-d of the old testament, then I guess it could be possible Jesus is our
Saviour… but the G-d of the old testament, the one who said there were and shall be no other gods formed also stated that He alone was our Saviour
and that we were to be saved merely by trusting Him and turning to Him… never does He state that we were to put our trust in a man on earth by
following after Him.
And see, this guys love of G-d and excitement comes from walking on a beach. Too many ppl are testifying the horrors that are going on right now to
innocent children… he never once touches on that fact and attempts to give an explanation. The salvation he is speaking of is contradictory to what
ppl see in the Bible and in fact, contradicts the horrors that are happening now. PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID… they may be *snipping* stubborn and love
their own lives more than G-d, but they will never understand unless the UGLINESS is shown and exposed… thus, most ppl will turn a deaf ear to such
a message as given in this video.
A question such as “what would it feel to see your child nailed to a cross” has little effect on ppl because they are witnessing other parents,
right now… this moment, who are watching their children starve to death w/out any means to save them. They see children who are suffering in ways
that are just as horrific, if not worse at the hands of ruthless greedy arse holes while the parents stand by helpless to save them or alleviate their
suffering and this message this guy is giving ignores that and leaves ppl with a disgust for G-d… understandably so.
“It feels so good that the Creator loves me that intensely” meanwhile, he is sitting on a beach, obviously fed, not only clothed but with SURFERS
clothes AND a surfboard, not having to worry about someone coming and beating his arse… throwing him out of his house.. shooting his children..
etc.
“Regardless of anything in your life, he wants you, but you have to accept Him” (and yet, in this, he leaves out so much of the important content
of the Bible). G-d makes it clear that you have to make YOURSELF acceptable to HIM, not the other way around. Are we here for G-d or is He here for
us? What he says points to the latter and that is a false statement and obviously the basis of what he believes, thus the reason his video is not
scripturally based. Ultimately, this is why this video will lack any power for any non believers.
He is correct about the fact that we were made to the equivalent of a bride to G-d, but this does require submission and it is BECAUSE of that
submission based on trust that we EVENTUALLY (though certainly not now) will have peace and live with and among others in peace in communion with G-d
(but again, not now and not in this time….. we don’t all get to walk on beaches and in fact, anyone who can give off this type of happy happy joy
joy message is lacking the message of the G-d of the Bible).
AHHHHH!! AND in that statement “It’s almost as though G-d’s *universe* is proposing to you now” we see the marks of paganism and mysticism.
Anyway.. finished with the picking apart. Basically, this message is not of the Bible (not even the new testament’s account of G-d) and thus,
because it denies so much in the bible, it will only make those who THINK they are Godly, but in fact are not, feel good about themselves.. that's
it. It is a feel good message that MANY of these ppl on this board have tried and it has failed them BECAUSE IT IS THE FALSE word of G-d. Tell the
truth, don’t deny the ugliness or try to excuse it because it needs no excuse. There is the truth and then there is the lie that masquerades as the
truth. People are not stupid and can see the pitfalls in what is being said by this man walking on a beautiful beach with the extras in life while
millions are suffering.. not because of G-d.. but this video does little to show that side of life.. THEREFORE, it is a lie and a false message
claimed to be of G-d.
[edit on 6-12-2008 by justamomma]