Alien Footprints On The Moon?

reply to post by NavalFC


I totally agree with you. People see patterns where there are none and make their own realities out of complexity. Perspectives on the moon are very difficult to understand especially using only photographic evidence to deduce conclusions.

It honestly is not that difficult to go to the moon especially if you have determined and motivated American and German engineers working tirelessly for it. American ingenuity under pressure is something that most people do not understand. Rather, they get caught up in mistrust of the government and bureaucracies.

As for it being a footprint on a set...whoever that is posting that needs to read up on the moon landings. Continuity? If it was filmed here on earth (which I do not think I could have been otherwise it would have looked different and they would have been caught by the russians [who already tried to prove the moon landings false but came away empty handed]) they would need to take more care to establish continuity than any other movie in history because of the amount of scrutiny from all other space programs. They wouldn't have to impress the masses who would believe almost anything; they would have to fool great scientists. Plus, that isolated footprint would mean that the "crew member" would have to make an astounding leap to avoid any further "hectic" mistakes.

Sure. And these alien footprints just happen to be by sheer coincidence in and among a bunch of real, actual astronaut footprints. Not like some of the footprints might be obscured by kicked dust or anything.

Gee, whiz. This is a pretty weak "Aliens on the Moon/Mars" thread.

reply to post by mikesingh


Hi there,

Extraordinary claims (midgets or aliens using Nasa's boots ) needs extraordinary evidence for alien's sake. (even here on ATS)

Now, let's get to it...

Our two eyes are separated by ~6cm, each eye sees a slightly different
view of the world. The difference in the images of the world (or a 2D photo) projected to each eye is called retinal disparity.

The brain uses retinal disparity to create 3-dimensional reconstructions of the world, in this case, it is a picture and to add a little more spice to it, the terrain does not look flat : (Nablator : Perspective narrows vertical distance by 30% at 45°. Maybe the terrain is not perfectly level too, so it could add some bias to the perspective )

Can we rely on 3D (brain) reconstruction ? "Guess" not, just like we cannot rely 100% on memory reconstruction.


Cheers,
Europa aka Buck


EDIT : Well done ignorant-ape, u might not be as ignorant as you may think

[edit on 4-12-2008 by Europa733]

the explaination for tje different sized footprints is distressingly simple :

UNEVEN TERRAIN

have none of you ever been out ?

here is a simple , graphic to demonstrate how a same sized boot can make different sized prints

it is not rocket science

reply to post by nablator


You are 100% correct sir that is what we are seeing very nice observation on your part very nice!

Thanks, James

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reply to post by angel of lightangelo


We landed on the moon, and no matter how hard you try it just must hurt you deep inside that the moon hoax theory has been shredded over and over again. I guess the mirrors we left on the moon to measure the distance were left by robots, and all the other stuff we left there was planted.

Ridiculous.

Cool posts by all these members. I think I know some stuff about UFOs, gosh Iv'e read enough books but you guys are the best.

reply to post by Nohup


Welcome to the Aliens and UFO forum. 99 percent of everything posted in here is pure trash, I have learned to live with it and pick my battles.

heh,pretty cool,I just watched a program on the tellybox which mentioned these footprints. It came with some video footage,which apparently later had the audio re dubbed over it,and the guy claimed that certain sentances can be found re-used over lots of NASA tapes.

[edit on 4/12/2008 by Acidtastic]

hey guys.

personally i think a large chunk of theese images are fake or has been touched in some way by NASA, but ofcourse i have no "real" evidence of that.

about the alleged "alien visitor" on the moon standing in the right side of the OP's post, dont think hes alien, like if you mean a extraterrestial being , but might be someone who was there before the official mission, dont know this either, but possible i think it is. although i think his suit and the equipment on it, looks similar to the others when you see the really high def. picture posted recently in the thread, and about the visor thing, if it's up, hmm, might be the reason.

in regards to the boot marks in the ground. is it just me, or does the bottom of the boots not match the tracks? seems like its opposite compared to the pictures, the way the lines are..

his suit

sorry if it has been mentioned, haven't seen it though.

Originally posted by mikesingh

Originally posted by nablator
The alien is Jack Schmitt with his visor up. See AS17-134-20472.

If it is, then what about the small footprint?

I measured the distance between the groves on the tread of the print and they are the same. It's a partial print and its looks like the soil is thinner at that spot.

reply to post by ignorant_ape


I'd have to agree with you. That was my first impression.

reply to post by Blaine91555


Starred your post man, just to say thank you for helping shred this nonsense along with all the other nonsense posted in this area.

reply to post by mikesingh


I think that the one that looks different only looks different because it had some dust dropped on it.

See this crop of a bigger version (from this site), with some change in contrast to show better the shadows of the dust.

(click for full size)

So, the only difference is that this footprint was not left untouched, it was somewhat affected by something, probably another step from the same astronaut.

I am still looking for more photos.

Originally posted by rocksarerocks
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

 

We landed on the moon, and no matter how hard you try it just must hurt you deep inside that the moon hoax theory has been shredded over and over again. I guess the mirrors we left on the moon to measure the distance were left by robots, and all the other stuff we left there was planted.

Ridiculous.

That is quite a claim coming from someone who has no idea what items in particular make me questiong this story anyway. You know it has all been debunked or "shredded" has it? Ok, then you should have no problem covering every questionable aspect of the moon landings. I am sure I will see in that list the items that I have an issue with. Go for it. I will be waiting.

P.S. are you suggesting that we have also been to Mars? We have put a lot of crap on that planet without ever having to go there so I am not sure what mirrors on the moon prove when we are driving remote control cars on Mars. Seems dropping a few mirrors in the right spot on the moon could not be so difficult.

reply to post by makkerskilap


The picture intrigued me, so I took a look through the article. In regards to Jack Schmitt's suit, it appears there are 2 sets of boots.

The first set, which seem to match your picture, can be seen at different angles here: history.nasa.gov...
and here: history.nasa.gov...

Then there's references to the Lunar boot here:history.nasa.gov...
With the soles shown here: history.nasa.gov...

The last picture matches Mike's 9 cleat picture.

Darn, and I thought we were on to something there.

Originally posted by rocksarerocks
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Starred your post man, just to say thank you for helping shred this nonsense along with all the other nonsense posted in this area.

Thank you, but I have no problem with these posts. Mike is fairly reasonable and discussing these things is what either puts them to rest or puts them into the possible evidence realm.

It is important these things get vetted somewhere or they end up unchallenged as they float through the Internet.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Thank you, but I have no problem with these posts. Mike is fairly reasonable and discussing these things is what either puts them to rest or puts them into the possible evidence realm.

It is important these things get vetted somewhere or they end up unchallenged as they float through the Internet.

That's it right there.

Excellent run.

Originally posted by Man on Fire
This may sound a little straightforward but wouldnt the aliens taylor there own clothes? I mean it sounds most obvios unless the Apollo suit suplier had all the moon landing of 1969 fashion rights.

Exactly! This may not be an alien after all. As I mentioned, it most likely could be an astronaut from the secret space program! And so the similarity in the equipment.

Cheers!

P.S. I love conspiracies!