Russo-Israeli oil war is gonna happen!

Watch out for this. Obama is going to withdraw US aid from Israel. He's not an idiot. He's gonna make a deal with Israel, a peace treaty; I think it will last about 7 years; between Israel and the Muslim nations. In return for 7 years of peace, Israel will lose all American support, but the muslims will have to give up the Temple Mount, and let the Jews rebuild their third temple, the one that was ruined during the crusades. Don't believe me? Just wait and see. Oh yeah, this is just my prediction, but the peace treaty isn't going to last very long because the USSR, Iran, Pakistan, and Syria are making sounds like they want to go in and take Israel's land(At least the Meggido valley). Did I mention that the Israelis might find oil in the Meggido valley. This'd make them the richest nation in the middle east, and that's the last thing the Muslims want. The Russkis still haven't given up the dream of ruling Afghanistan/the middle east (after all it's right below them) and if Israel finds oil, they'll be the governing power out there. (which spells the end of the Russian hopes of a rejuvenated Soviet empire). We might be looking at some kind of a blowup in the middle east in the next several years. Just keep watching CNN and Fox for any real mention of Israel or the middle east.
Oh by the way, I don't think we should listen to the people who are saying that Iraq will blow up the second we leave. On the contrary, I think we've done a right fine job in pacifying the militias with our anaconda strategy. Indeed, Iraq should be pretty quiet in the upcoming years. But, in Israel I see (as I wrote) some greater changes. And Afghanistan too. Don't forget, the USSR would only be going after the Jews because they are on the verge of finding crude oil. Their main goal is to steal back Afghanistan. They have the material...sort of. They still have those highly flammable tanks that burn like torches. But still, I think they have better leadership than they did in their first game of Russian roullette. (The 1970s invasion of Afghanistan)

Israel has the nuke. They won't be invaded. Iraq is a mess, but yeah, in no state to do much, except possibly have no control over terrorists. Obama will give the middle east peace process a feelgood, what happens then we don't know. If Israel gets oil, it is likely to hang on to it because of said nuke, and American aid won't be needed. To be honest, I would not know what to predict, just the cynic inside me says the status quo.

reply to post by Ranger23


What are you basing this on?

Russia tried to invade Afghanistan to turn it into a Communist country, and since they're Socialists, it doesn't seem like they're going to invade Afghanistan for the same reason again.

So you are saying you believe Obama is the Antichrist? Because according to dispensational Christians the seven year peace treaty with Israel is the beginning of the reign of Antichrist. And many Christians believe the rebuilding of the Temple must occur before the end of the world, so that the abomination of desolation can occur (which is interpreted to mean he will sacrifice a pig on the Jewish altar, which today does not even exist) ...

Am I correct in interpreting your gist?

It's all in the book 'Epicenter' by Joel Rosenberg. He's the same guy that accurately predicted 9/11 months prior to its occurrence. Obama is not the AC (let's face it, he's just not smart enough) but he may be someone that prepares the world for the 'idea' of an AC.

Originally posted by Ranger23
Watch out for this. Obama is going to withdraw US aid from Israel. He's not an idiot. He's gonna make a deal with Israel, a peace treaty; I think it will last about 7 years; between Israel and the Muslim nations. In return for 7 years of peace, Israel will lose all American support, but the muslims will have to give up the Temple Mount, and let the Jews rebuild their third temple, the one that was ruined during the crusades. Don't believe me? Just wait and see. Oh yeah, this is just my prediction, but the peace treaty isn't going to last very long because the USSR, Iran, Pakistan, and Syria are making sounds like they want to go in and take Israel's land(At least the Meggido valley). Did I mention that the Israelis might find oil in the Meggido valley. This'd make them the richest nation in the middle east, and that's the last thing the Muslims want. The Russkis still haven't given up the dream of ruling Afghanistan/the middle east (after all it's right below them) and if Israel finds oil, they'll be the governing power out there. (which spells the end of the Russian hopes of a rejuvenated Soviet empire). We might be looking at some kind of a blowup in the middle east in the next several years. Just keep watching CNN and Fox for any real mention of Israel or the middle east.
Oh by the way, I don't think we should listen to the people who are saying that Iraq will blow up the second we leave. On the contrary, I think we've done a right fine job in pacifying the militias with our anaconda strategy. Indeed, Iraq should be pretty quiet in the upcoming years. But, in Israel I see (as I wrote) some greater changes. And Afghanistan too. Don't forget, the USSR would only be going after the Jews because they are on the verge of finding crude oil. Their main goal is to steal back Afghanistan. They have the material...sort of. They still have those highly flammable tanks that burn like torches. But still, I think they have better leadership than they did in their first game of Russian roullette. (The 1970s invasion of Afghanistan)

Yes we don't believe you the Temple Mount was detroyed in 70 ad NOT during the Crusades.

Russia's too busy playing "I've got big balls" by bullying little neighbours, poisoning people that have bitched about them and setting up Putin Superhero photo ops with endangered animals...they couldn't organise a pish up in a stolichnya still let alone take on a nuked up neurotic nation like israel without the whole thing getting really messy...it ain't gonna happen....

As for AntiChrists!?...just look around the Christian Right in the US...you'll find plenty....

Originally posted by cooperj
Russia's too busy playing "I've got big balls" by bullying little neighbours, poisoning people that have bitched about them and setting up Putin Superhero photo ops with endangered animals...they couldn't organise a pish up in a stolichnya still let alone take on a nuked up neurotic nation like israel without the whole thing getting really messy...it ain't gonna happen....

As for AntiChrists!?...just look around the Christian Right in the US...you'll find plenty....

Thats funny last time we looked it was U.S.A. that was picking on weak nations (Serbia/Iraq) and then standing on the hill saying "We're the most powerful military in the world!"
With the amount of ABM defences that Russia has, (which makes U.S.A. think twice about attacking), I don't small nuke-arsenal having Isreal will last 3 hours let alone 3 days against the Bear.



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No doubt Russia still has quite a formidable defense mechanisim and can easily take on the US in a sustained conflict.

I would say pulling out the pampers from Israel would be the smartest thing done by the US since signing of the consititution.

Its time to wien the baby...and keep those billions of dollars here at home.


They got to pay for the next bailout with something...dont they?!!!


Cheers!!!!

Russia is much more interested in the oil and mineral wealth of the Artic ocean than the middle east. That is the area they are being more territorially aggressive in at the moment.

Also with Hilary as Secretary of State (who said she would attack Iran if it attacked Israel) Obama is not likely to withdraw support of Israel.

Keeping abreast of current international news might give a more informed viewpoint.

Originally posted by Popeye
Russia is much more interested in the oil and mineral wealth of the Artic ocean than the middle east. That is the area they are being more territorially aggressive in at the moment.

Also with Hilary as Secretary of State (who said she would attack Iran if it attacked Israel) Obama is not likely to withdraw support of Israel.

Keeping abreast of current international news might give a more informed viewpoint.

Regardless of whether Obama is AC, and regardless of whether he withdraws support from Israel, Russia will still invade once they find Israel has oil. Russia needs oil. Israel has it. Russia wants their oil. So...like any good Russian, they go and invade....It's as simple as that. Israel would be overwhelmed. (Note: It is unlikely that Russia herself will actually take place in the attack, but they will probably pay Syria, and Iran to do their dirty work. Have I mentioned that a lot of North African nations HATE Israel?

Originally posted by Ranger23

Originally posted by Popeye
Russia is much more interested in the oil and mineral wealth of the Artic ocean than the middle east. That is the area they are being more territorially aggressive in at the moment.

Also with Hilary as Secretary of State (who said she would attack Iran if it attacked Israel) Obama is not likely to withdraw support of Israel.

Keeping abreast of current international news might give a more informed viewpoint.

Regardless of whether Obama is AC, and regardless of whether he withdraws support from Israel, Russia will still invade once they find Israel has oil. Russia needs oil. Israel has it. Russia wants their oil. So...like any good Russian, they go and invade....

Like the way U.S.A. invaded Iraq to steal it's "oil" www.globalresearch.ca...
And Isreal DOE NOT have a lot of oil, thats why they told U.S.A. to ivade Iraq so they (U.S.A.) can divert the oil to Isreal.

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Originally posted by Ranger23Regardless of whether Obama is AC, and regardless of whether he withdraws support from Israel, Russia will still invade once they find Israel has oil. Russia needs oil. Israel has it. Russia wants their oil. So...like any good Russian, they go and invade....It's as simple as that. Israel would be overwhelmed. (Note: It is unlikely that Russia herself will actually take place in the attack, but they will probably pay Syria, and Iran to do their dirty work. Have I mentioned that a lot of North African nations HATE Israel?

HAHA, oh wow. Russia needs oil? They're the world's second largest oil exporter, and are running most of their own country on natural gas, coal, and nuclear power. Also: they know damn well that the citizens of the middle east would welcome Russian domination with open arms exactly the same way as they do the USA.