And the reason for the Mumbai attacks suddenly becomes obvious

Stunned UPA wakes up: Patil in firing line, terror law, Afzal back on table

www.indianexpress.com

And in another significant shift from its stated position, the government is also said to have decided to enact a fresh anti-terror law. The details are still to be worked out but the new law was likely to include some stringent provisions, if not all, that this government had been very reluctant to incorporate earlier.

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So India has finally thrown it's hat in the ring officially now, it's joining the big boys and got themselves a buffed up anti terror law. And here we were scratching our heads, asking ourselves what possible reason terrorists would have for attacking India.

Don't you just wish these terrorists organizations could be a bit more like the IRA? Y'know, like actually say why they kill people, and what they want? Strangely terrorists nowdays are extremely shy. But that's okay, our governments will protect us from them.

So no it wasn't about driving a wedge between India and Pakistan at all, even somebody with virtually no knowledge about the region would know that couldn't happen nowdays.

So India becomes Israel #2. Keep a good eye out for other countries facing impossibly well organized terror attacks and passing anti terror laws, just to prove to the USA that they're willing to play NWO-ball with them.

www.indianexpress.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Originally posted by unnamedninja
And here we were scratching our heads, asking ourselves what possible reason terrorists would have for attacking India.

History is not your strongest point is?

Read up about Kashmir and the religious violence between Hindus and Muslims. Then conclude by studying terrorist militants, back by Pakistan ISI, and then you'll understand.

Sometimes in the world, sh*t happens. Governments have to respond to it, to make sure it does not happen again. Even though i believe in false flags, i think this time is just the situation that created this.

False flags do happen, but sometimes in this world sh*t happens. Thats not to say that governments do not take advantage of these situations after to increase there power.

[edit on 11/30/2008 by andy1033]

It is not a mystery at all if you know what they have planned. Read the book "old world secrets the omega project codes" that is our masters territory too. All of these religions were started by the same organization.

India has been building its importance in the world and it was bound to happen that they would join the NWO plans. I, like so many others, continue to watch what is going on there to find the truth behind the attacks. Some say false flag, some rule that out. Sadly, it is too easy to place the FF tag on these because of so many times it has happened in war and terror attacks.

So, what is to come of this? Enter India as a budding world player on all fronts. I am not sure they are ready for what is to come by jumping onto this stage, but we shall see if they can rise to the challenges.

Originally posted by wheresthetruth
India has been building its importance in the world and it was bound to happen that they would join the NWO plans. I, like so many others, continue to watch what is going on there to find the truth behind the attacks. Some say false flag, some rule that out. Sadly, it is too easy to place the FF tag on these because of so many times it has happened in war and terror attacks.

So, what is to come of this? Enter India as a budding world player on all fronts. I am not sure they are ready for what is to come by jumping onto this stage, but we shall see if they can rise to the challenges.

India is one of the first nwo territories, that was there promissed land. The nwo roots go way deeper there.

The problem with this is Islam itself.
It is a very strong, robust, warrior religion.
It was born by the sword.
When it gets perverted, it remains a very strong, robust, warrior religion.
And people die because of it.

Interesting addition to the equation unn, but I would think that the new terror law angle is tertiary at best. Surely the further isolating and targeting of Pakistan is the main thrust here. With a view toward surrounding Iran of course.

Yep, england should be blamed for doing this. All the india paki thing and kashmir is englands problem. You never see the press balme the english, who every one should look at for creating so many of the worlds problems.

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by unnamedninja
And here we were scratching our heads, asking ourselves what possible reason terrorists would have for attacking India.

History is not your strongest point is?

I agree it's not. But still I don't agree, anyone who has been listening to the news in recent years will know with fair certainty that India and Pakistan are set on mending their fractured relationship. Terrorists, if such a thing actually exists anymore could not be so stupid as to think they could change anything with these attacks.

What has changed, is anyone being blamed? Is there any mudslinging at all between the two countries? No, as usual Al Qaida is being blamed, even though they have not claimed the attacks or the reasoning behind them, and India and Pakistan have rallied together set on rooting out the evil doers.

Look at the change following events like this and I believe you find the reasons for them happening. Or perhaps everyone masterminding terrorists attacks lately are utterly incompetent and their plans always have the reverse desired effect.

But I'll do the reading you suggested and it might change my opinion. Being informed about all matters under the sun takes an extremely long time, it's a lot to pack into a single human lifetime, and I'm still pretty young yet.

Edit: I always appreciate opportunity to learn something if I'm spouting off without properly understanding the subject first, starting with this link: www.cfr.org...

Ok well I've had a read. There's a lot of evidence and witnesses for the ISI supporting terrorism, probably more than you can say is just a case of a "create a villain" campaign by the west. But the ISI supposedly follows the policy of the Pakistan government, which is right now doing it's best with the olive branch, so why?

Or it could be a rogue faction within the ISI like the article suggests it could easily have. But what could anyone hope to achieve by these attacks, and what is your theory?

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reply to post by andy1033


More anti-English rhetoric!
What a suprise.
Just where is your reasoning for this unfounded statement?

India and Pakistan have been independant for long enough to be masters of their own destinies.
These troubles do not stem from Britains colonial past but rather than from the religious and political intolerances of those directly concerned now.

It is easy for people from within these areas to deny any kind of responsibility and to blame others and Britain is the convenient PC scapegoat; your own personal prejudice helps feed this ignorance.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Sometimes a terrorist attack is just a terrorist attack.

That part of the world is very volitile.
Terrorist attacks happen all the time.
The aim this time was for 5,000 people.
Thankfully the terrorists fell short of their goal.

reply to post by andy1033


Why England? The biggest Imperialists in the Empire were usually Scots!

But anyhoo the partition only happened because Muslims, Hindu's and Sikhs couldn't, for some baffling reason, live together in one state.

Never mind they have been living next door to each other for hundreds of years, all of a sudden they had to go to war just "because"...

Why?

Nothing to do with the UK, but rather their own intolerance and ignorance.

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Maybe the majority population was tired of being dominated for 700 hundred years by a Muslim minority. Given the chance through independence they wanted to control their own destiny.

reply to post by ufoorbhunter


The partition took place along religious lines, so there wasn't any need for the ensuing violence that followed, but hey, religion is a funny thing...

Originally posted by resistor
Surely the further isolating and targeting of Pakistan is the main thrust here. With a view toward surrounding Iran of course.

My thoughts exactly - Iraq one side, Afganistan and Pakistan the other side and Iran in the middle. As someone said, as a reply, when I wrote this in another thread - checkmate.

a couple yers ago
india had something like 7 train bombs in a concerted terror attack


this present terorist attack on something like 7 buildings,
buildings which were either Israeli oriented or centers for affluent westerners such as prominant hotels,

in the Indian nation's NYC/WallStreet counterpart city of Mumbai


Was after all, done by what seems to be a single terror cell of perps...
just as the train bombings seemed to be.


so any group of ten like minded souls, can hatch out a teror operation...
what helps stop such acts is establishing liberty restricting oppression
parceled out in small doses ...
& viola', we become prisoners of our illusionary freedom

reply to post by Freeborn


People do seem to forget any good intentions but remember that which can be spun negative. There seems to be a need to find blame with someone else.

Give history a few more decades and the US will be the one that spread the roots of trouble through out the world.

reply to post by unnamedninja

What has changed, is anyone being blamed? Is there any mudslinging at all between the two countries? No, as usual Al Qaida is being blamed, even though they have not claimed the attacks or the reasoning behind them, and India and Pakistan have rallied together set on rooting out the evil doers.

actually

India blames Pakistan for Mumbai terrorist attacks

(0) 28.November 2008, 12:39
India pointed a finger on Friday at Pakistani-linked "elements" for the attacks in Mumbai, raising the prospect of a breakdown in the nuclear-armed rivals’ peace efforts. An estimated 25 armed men, at least some of whom arrived by sea, fanned out across Mumbai on Wednesday night to attack sites popular with tourists and businessmen, including the city’s top two luxury hotels.

Perhaps not outright and direct blame. More like, hey you are allowing these terrorists to fester on your land, its your fault for letting them... kind of blame.

Does anyone think maybe there is a hint of Pakistan being centered out once again. They seem to be mentioned time and time again in the news. Always stuff about these groups hiding out there. Terror training, Taliban harboring, and constant linking to the trouble in Afghanistan.

Even Bin Laden has been rumoured in the past to be hiding there. The assasination of Benazir Bhutto. Pakistan is being painted in dark colors.

Then on the flip side you have India joining the space race, and now a status of victimization after countless terror attacks in the last few years.

Is this all leading up to something greater?