“Col. Jim,” USAF, Area 51, Nevada

Here is a snippet from the Earth Files site and I was wondering if anyone has information on this story below, The site is pay pal and you can not acess this info for free, I will not pay for something that should be free to all like Dr greers web sites.


November 27, 2008 - Part 10: Army/CIA Unit Studied
the Real UFO Blue Book Cases. Click for Real X-File.

“You’re going to see some highly classified equipment.
At this time, we have some saucer craft that have been gathered
in the United States from New Mexico and we have other craft
that have been gathered from around the world.”
- “Col. Jim,” USAF, Area 51, Nevada

Colonel Jim>? sounds so Generic, and Jim is a first name.

There really isnt anything to substantiate the story but that does give me kind of a not so trusting feeling.

I haven't heard of this either, but it sounds interesting, do you have a link?

JIM SIMON - USAF Lt Col F-101 Area 51 - A-12 Chase

area51specialprojects.com...

Originally posted by mel1962
I haven't heard of this either, but it sounds interesting, do you have a link?

Here goes!

www.earthfiles.com...

[edit on 30-11-2008 by Bob Down Under]

hey bob,

ive read 11 parts. i subsrcibe.

so whats your question?

reply to post by LordThumbs


Hi Lord thanks for the offer and sorry I did not reply earlier, what I was after was the whole Col. Jim thing as is he ligite and the full story and what evidence did he pass on?

Thanks

[edit on 8-12-2008 by Bob Down Under]

Do not pay for any of this kind of stuff.
Its all free somewhere, they are just using opportunity the fact you are there to get you to pay.
There is sites on here who want you to pay $50 for 13 second video clips.
Which are free.

36.00 for years access to earthfiles.com is not a waste to me. 'the truth should be free' well guess what..it aint so get over it.

anywhoo..

col jim is a very very small piece of the info being reported. the guys name that linda moulton howe is actually getting her interview from is a guy name 'stein'..she did the in home interview in 1998 shortly after the book "the day after rosewell" came out by col philip corso.

sorry to give a very very vague recap but im on my out the door. id be happy to answer any questions and possibly post external comments from the article for convorsational purposes.

the man is a retired CIA agent. he went by different names cause part of his undercover was actually be a US military man but was actually a CIA op. very interesting..
his boss first told him about the events at roswell, and showed him the autopsy film (which he said was very similar to the one that aired on fox in the late 90's particularly the injured leg and 6 fingers)

stein then was shown craft, 3 to be exact.

when he and his boss and a few others took a trip to see col jim, jim showed them another craft about 60ft in diameter, but then moved on to the part where he showed them the live alien that they had. stein asked if it was the humanoid looking type he saw from his autopsy video but jim told him it was not it what they coined "grey" ..

the grey was sitting at a table with his hands behind his back. one person was allowed to go into the room at a time and talk. as you already have heard they speak telepathically so when you think of a question they automatically just repond before you speak. but they cannot telepathically speak to all the men at once. steins boss was the one to ask a few questions. when the man got to the part when he asked him if he was a demon the grey tilted his head back and let out a hiss or a sheesh if you will. and stood up and began to pace back and forth cause steins boss kept digging into the question "are you a demon" later in the interview the grey revealed they are not the only ones here, they are trying to help us save ourselves. he states they helped the incas mine for and fortify gold. talked about the fact that they just jump from one shell to the next and are not worried about 'bodies' like we are.

stein stated that col. jim was most likely a cover name, EVERYONE had em back then due to the cold war.

this article is now in its 12th part, and since it was conducted by linda moulton howe its only available through that website at the moment. however. i will truthfuly tell you that the 36 bucks is worth it or you can do 3 per month.

stein was very detailed in his interview, there fore feel free to ask questions and ill find your answers. and yes ILL DO IT FOR FREE

again i appologize for skipping words and miss spells, but im seriously out the door.future responses with flow better and have more detail.

appreciatively- thumbs.

[edit on 12/10/2008 by LordThumbs]

Thanks for answering questions about the site.

How were the crafts powered?

What else did the grey communicate?

reply to post by Bob Down Under


this content as you know is from an external source earthfiles.com
bold letters are the interviewer and the non-bold are obviously stein.

BACK IN 1958 WHEN YOU WERE AT AREA 51 GROOM LAKE AND YOU WERE TAKEN WITH YOUR BOSS AND THREE OTHER MEN TO THE ENCLOSURE, WAS IT INSIDE A MOUNTAIN? OR UNDERGROUND?
Part of it was inside a mountain (Papoose Mountain?) and part of it was not. But it was further beyond the special area where they had the TOP SECRET United States aircraft there. We went to like the third area where there is a landing strip that you land on in a normal USAF installation. Then you go about ten miles further and you find another little airstrip with its own hangars. Then you go further about another eight miles and you have the highly classified installation there with the UFOs in it and that's partly inside a mountain.
DID YOU GO THROUGH DOORS INTO A MOUNTAIN? DID YOU GO UNDERGROUND TO SEE THE CRAFT AND NON-HUMAN ENTITY?
The disc craft were in a major building along side the mountain and there were driveway and walkway areas that went right into the mountain. Inside the mountain were like carved out caves where they had like hangars. The alien being we looked at, he was out in the main office building part of that third complex.
WHEN YOU WENT INSIDE THE MOUNTAIN HANGARS, HOW MANY CRAFT DID YOU PERSONALLY SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES?
It was like six or seven. Some were more distant where I was looking over foreground vehicles and I could only see the top of craft in the distance. I did ask Col. Jim about them and that’s the answer he gave me about what the little ones and big ones were.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE SHAPE, COLOR AND SO FORTH?
Most of them were a silver color. The small Vril craft were silver. The other ones were like light grey and a couple of big ones were a dark grey, or light black (charcoal).
IN DIAMETER, WHAT WERE THE BIGGEST?
I’d say 60 feet in diameter.
WHAT WAS THE DIAMETER OF THE SMALLER CRAFT?
Probably about 18 to 20 feet.
WERE THEY ON ANY PLATFORMS?
Some were sitting on like saw horses, but the supports were metal and heavier than a wooden saw horse. One of the big craft did have a gun-type thing below it and I was told it was what the Germans called ‘the death ray.’ Some kind of ray gun.
IN TERMS OF THE METAL SAW HORSES THAT PROPPED UP THE CRAFT, WERE EACH OF THE CRAFT DISC-SHAPED? OR WERE THERE DIFFERENT SHAPES?
The craft we saw at Groom Lake were all basically disc-shaped. Some had a bottom area to them or a round top area that stood up above the disc. That varied. But basically you would have to say they were all disc-shaped.
DID ANYONE DESCRIBE TRIANGLE OR WEDGE SHAPES? OR U-CURVED LIKE THE HEEL OF A SHOE?
No.
WERE YOU ALLOWED TO GO CLOSER TO TOUCH ANY OF THE DISCS?
No, we just saw them from a doorway and walkway where we were passing by the area and back to the front side. We never got to touch them.
WHAT DID YOUR BOSS SAY ABOUT THE HALF DOZEN DISCS?
He said, ‘This is such a surprise. How could Germany be that advanced back in the 1920s and 1930s?’ He was shocked at that. I believe the two big ones were German and the two smaller ones were German Vrils and there were a couple of medium-sized craft with different tops and bottoms that Col. Jim said were literally extraterrestrial.

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on how the craft was powered: content from an external source earthfiles.com..bold will be the interviewer and the non bold will be stein.

“The whole craft was like an electronic circuit and the aliens
had to be inside the craft with headbands on and their fingertips in control
panels in order to complete the electronic circuit to make it fly.”
- “Stein,” Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst

WHAT DID YOU SEE?
I saw the craft and I saw they had tried to reverse-engineer it, so part of it was taken apart. They were trying to figure out how it worked and they were explaining to us there really was no physical motor in that craft. The whole craft was like an electronic circuit and the aliens had to be inside the craft with headbands on and their fingertips in control panels in order to complete the electronic circuit to make it fly.
Our people had tried to make one disc fly like a battery-charged electrical unit that worked with an anti-gravitational, electromagnetic drive. But the whole saucer itself was like the drive of a ship and coated with nickel inside and it was like a giant electronic circuit. It took the aliens to complete the circuit because they were tied right in with it some how. They had headbands they wore that had detectors in them (for telepathic thoughts?) and had hand imprinted consoles where they could fly the craft with their fingertips.
THOSE HAND-IMPRINTED 6-FINGERED CONTROL PANELS THAT WERE WITH THE AUTOPSY FILM BY SANTILLI. DID YOU SEE THE PANELS YOURSELF THERE AT AREA 51 WITH THE CRAFT?
Yes, they were there with the craft. They were trying to figure out the electronic circuitry because there was no wiring of any kind that they could see. Later on, a couple of scientists at Groom Lake used microscopes to investigate the hand-imprinted panels and they found little fibers going from it. The microscopes could see fiber optic transmissions, which extended throughout the craft.
ALL CARRYING LIGHT TRANSMISSIONS.
Yes, all by light. In the report I read originally, it said when they first looked inside the craft, it was kind of glowing with a dim light inside from all the fiber optics circuitry. Reverse engineering that is apparently where we got our fiber optics today.
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT LT. COL. PHILIP J. CORSO SAID IN HIS BOOK, THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL. BUT YOU WERE SAYING YOU WERE TAKEN TO AREA 51 WHERE THERE WERE HALF A DOZEN CRAFT AND YOU ALSO SAW A LIVE BEING.

content related to the beings and convo's:
YOUR BOSS AND THE THREE MEN ARE THERE IN THE ROOM INTERACTING. HOW DID THEY INTERACT WITH THE BEING?
My boss did ask it what it was doing here on Earth and why they had come here. The only answer he got was that the grey beings were not here to conquer the Earth or to destroy anything. It said they were here to add knowledge to humans so we could gain more knowledge in different areas.
DID YOUR BOSS ASK THAT QUESTION OUT LOUD OR THINK IT?
He asked that question out loud. I could see his lips move and I could sort of read his lips.
DID HE DESCRIBE TO YOU HOW THE BEING COMMUNICATED BACK?
Only telepathically, my boss heard in his head what the being had said – not through my boss’s ears, but in his mind.
DID THE OTHER THREE MEN HEAR THE SAME ANSWER?
Yes, they did. We were all talking about it on the way in there before we got into the room. I told my boss I was not going to go in because I did not feel comfortable because I thought we might be interviewing a demon and I didn’t want to get tied into anything like that. But I said to my boss, ‘Ask it if it’s a demon.’ My boss did. The men in the room with the grey being asked him if he were a fallen angel or demon and if it knew what demons were. The being was very upset by being called a demon.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOUR BOSS SAID THE GREY BEING COMMUNICATED TELEPATHCIALLY IN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS?
Yes, the being said it was not a demon. That he and his type were not demons, but they knew what demons were and sometimes they did work with them on some things they were doing on Earth.”

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content from an external source earthfiles.com about the col. jim fake name

WHO WAS ESCORTING YOU, YOUR BOSS AND THE THREE MEN FROM THE CIA?

It was that USAF Col. Jim. His name tag was not full. He just had his first name there.

YOU GUYS HAD BADGES WITH YOUR NAMES?

We had CIA identification badges that had our picture on it and our CIA cover names. My boss had used his own name for years, but mine was a phony name as were the others using phony names.

SO, NONE OF YOU KNEW WHO EACH OF YOU REALLY WERE?

Right, none of us knew who each of us really was. My boss was the only one who knew my real name because I came through the back door into the CIA by teaching in the Army Signal Corps.

reply to post by slated


content from an external source pertaining to an interaction with a grey from earthfiles.com

TELL ME THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS: WHAT DID THE COLONEL SAY TO YOU ABOUT THE DISCS IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHERE YOU WERE GOING NEXT?

He stated that these were some of the craft we had picked up or captured in different parts of the world. So, apparently some of them were even brought in from overseas. I kind of gathered that most were captured within the United States.

He said we were going back out to the general office and smaller hangar area to see the extraterrestrial being they had there at the time.



From Discs to Non-Human Grey Being

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

We went from the hangar area where the saucers were to outside on a covered walkway area that went into an office complex. It was a bunch of small rooms and offices. They had a special room for viewing that had one-way mirrors in it. We could look through the window into the small office. The being in there was unable to see us through the mirror because it was a mirror on his side.

They said we can go in and talk to this being. At that time, I chose not to go in. Years later, I wished I would have. But I chose not to go in because they did tell us that the being communicated only telepathically. He would not speak in any manner that we could hear with our ears. So, I chose to stay out and the other four people went in with the Colonel.

YOUR BOSS WITH THE THREE OTHER CIA GUYS WENT IN WITH COLONEL JIM?

Yes.

DESCRIBE THE BEING.

The being was what the Colonel called him as a ‘Grey.’ He had a large head and bigger eyes, kind of slanted. He looked like he was wearing sunglasses because his eye lenses were real dark. The face slanted down to a pointed chin with just a little nose area and tiny slit of a mouth and just holes in the side of his head for ear openings.

ABOUT HOW TALL?

Probably about 5 feet high.

WHAT WAS THE TEXTURE OF HIS SKIN?

It was grayish-looking, but it looked fairly coarse – not like the smoothness of our skin – from where I was looking through the window.

WHAT WOULD YOU COMPARE THE SKIN TO IN TEXTURE OF SOMETHING I MIGHT KNOW?

Some areas of its skin were rough and warty-looking and some were sort of smooth, but still not like our skin. It looked more like a grainy canvas.

WHAT GREY COLOR?

I would say a medium grey.


Medium gray # 808080.



COULD YOU SEE THE HANDS?

No, I didn’t. First of all, the being had its hands and arms behind its back and was sort of walking back and forth behind the little desk and chair area. He did sit down later on. I never did see his hands, so I don’t know how many fingers he had. The question came up later when we were flying home about how many fingers the being had and nobody saw, including my boss and the three other CIA men in the room with the being.

IT’S ODD THAT NO ONE ASKED TO SEE THE BEING’S HANDS GIVEN THAT YOU ALL HAD BEEN EXPOSED TO THE 6-FINGERED HUMANOID AUTOPSY FILM.

Yes. (laughs) But they had a time limit inside the room with the being, not more than ten minutes they gave for the mini-interview.

COULD YOU SEE ITS FEET? AND WAS IT WEARING ANY CLOTHES?

Yes, it had like civilian clothes on, like a little t-shirt or tank-top over the shoulders. And then there were trousers on, too. I never saw its feet.

YOU COULD NOT SEE THE FEET BECAUSE?

Because he was behind the desk area and all I could see was above his knees on up. It was like something they had put on him. It was loose and sloppy and didn’t look like anything naturally – no type of a flight suit.

SO THE BEING HAD BEEN DRESSED UP TO MEET THE GROUP OF HUMANS?

Probably.

WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE MEN AND THE BEING?

They asked questions. My boss started out asking questions about the being itself.

HOW DID HE AND THE OTHER MEN EXPLAIN THE TELEPATHIC PROCESS? WHAT DID THEY EXPERIENCE?

They said they were definitely not hearing anything through their ears. The ‘voice’ was right in the mind itself. They could put their fingers in their ears and could still hear the being. One of the men tried that – he plugged both ears to see if he could still hear the being and he could.

YOU COULD SEE THROUGH THE GLASS THAT ONE OF THE MEN PUT HIS FINGERS IN HIS EARS?

Yes, to see if he was actually hearing the being. He wasn’t. He said he heard the being’s voice right in his mind.

WHAT DID THE VOICE SOUND LIKE?

He said it was like an electronically reproduced voice. Now, we have computers that can talk to us and answer the phone. So like a computer voice. Back in the 1950s, that sort of thing was just beginning with computers. He said it did not sound like a human voice. It sounded like an electronic voice.

NEITHER MALE OR FEMALE?

Neither one.

WHEN THE MAN PUT HIS FINGERS IN HIS EARS, DID HE SEE ANY RESPONSE FROM THE BEING? OR DID THE BEING GIVE BACK A RESPONSE TELEPATHICALLY?

No, the being just answered the man’s question and he heard the telepathic voice just like he heard it before he put his fingers in his ears.

DID YOUR BOSS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT HE MOST WANTED TO ASK THE BEING?

We had nothing planned. We didn’t know until we were in the hangar that they had an extraterrestrial being and we were going to be shown the being. We didn’t even know about seeing a being prior to about three minutes before we saw him in the room.

pictures relating to the humanoid being not a grey.
notice the smaller picture of the humanoids face you can see black eye lenses. i have read in other reports that they use the black lenses to see in the dark, it sort of gives off a faint orange hue around objects in the dark.
the other picture shows the eyes AFTER the lenses have been taken off.
the picture with the hand imprint is related to how the craft is literally tied to the thoughts and reactions of the beings, via some type of micro-fiberoptics.
pictures of 6 fingers and toes etc.

is there anything in the interview that gives an indication as to where the being and his race have originated and what other planets they have visited?

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she keeps adding parts PART13 is pending and its gonna start in the middle of an Alien interview, so if there are any additions pertaining to this i will be sure to flag the info for you.

however there is this

content from an external source earthfiles.com which indicates that these very beings that are being interview could be well over a thousand years old.

“Anthony told me the small, grey, non-humans
lived for a long time. He also said that knowledge could be
transferred from a dying or dead non-human into a replacement body.”
- “Stein,” Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst

My June 29, 1998, interview with Stein at his Florida home continues from Part 7.

“Antony Barden said the smelting of gold was the big thing the small Greys taught the Incas – at least that’s what he understood from telepathic communication.

WHICH CAPTURED BEING DID THE CIA GET THAT INFORMATION FROM?

The 3-foot-tall Greys.

HOW DID THE ALIEN KNOW?

It apparently was saying he and other beings with him had actually taught the Incas, so that would make that alien communicating with us very old, centuries old.

DID ANTHONY BARDEN COMMENT ABOUT THAT?

Yes, Anthony told me the small, grey, non-humans lived for a long time. He also said that knowledge could be transferred from a dying or dead non-human into a replacement body.

HAD ANTHONY BARDEN RECEIVED A BRIEFING AT CIA HEADQUARTERS ABOUT CLONING THE REPLACEMENT BODIES? [ Editor's Note: For more information about life force transfer from bodies to cloned replacement bodies, please see Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. II: High Strangeness © 1998 by Linda Moulton Howe in Earthfiles Shop. ]

No, I don’t think so. I don’t remember him mentioning cloning, but he said the replacement bodies and very long lives of the non-humans were brought up in meetings at the CIA. These things either live a thousand years and/or their knowledge can be transferred to a new body unit if their body wears out.

DID ANTHONY BARDEN REFER TO THEIR BODIES AS ANDROIDS?

No. At that time, even when we went to Area 51 in August 1958, the being there in that office building was described as being ‘extraterrestrial.’ At that time with us, we also never heard the phrase, ‘extraterrestrial biological entity (EBE).’ That particular term was never brought out to us. It was the term ‘alien’ that was always used as the all-encompassing word to describe the beings. At that time, apparently, our government thought they were independent beings from somewhere else in the universe – not programmed androids working for someone else.



Not Much Known About 6-Fingered Non-Humans?

IF ANTHONY BARDEN HAD A BRIEFING IN WHICH IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT THE 3-FOOT-TALL GREYS HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH TEACHING THE INCAS ABOUT THE SMELTING OF GOLD, WAS THERE ALSO A BRIEFING ABOUT THE 6-FINGERED HUMANOIDS?

No. I had the impression that there was no detailed knowledge about the 6-fingered, 6-toed entities, what they were up to or why they were here. All I ever heard was that the Greys were here to help and had helped different nations do different things over the centuries.

I never heard anything about why the 6-fingered beings were different from the Greys and I never heard any information about where the 6-fingered aliens were from.

WHAT ABOUT THE TALLER 5-FOOT-GREYS?

I understood they were from the same solar system, but a different planet. But at that time in the late 1950s, only the planet Aldebaran was mentioned to me as a possible source. But I don’t know.

THE ONLY STAR THAT ANTHONY BARDEN BROUGHT UP IN THE SOUTHEASTERN MILITARY BASE WAS ALDEBARAN?

Yes.

NO OTHER?

At that time, no other. When we were at Area 51 in August 1958, some other stars were mentioned, but I cannot remember what, except they were identified only by numbers, not names.



Electromagnetic, Anti-gravity and
Anti-matter Propulsion Systems

IN WHAT ANTHONY BARDEN LEARNED AT LANGLEY CIA, IS THERE ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THE TYPES OF BEINGS AND CRAFT TECHNOLOGY THAT HE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT?

Yes, he mentioned that the propulsion system was electromagnetic anti-gravitational. Also, they had some craft that operated on an anti-matter propulsion system, which was a different type of propulsion system. Also, they had found one ancient saucer craft that was atomic powered and was still highly radioactive. It had been put into a cave out west in the United States and when there was an earthquake somewhere, the side of a mountain tumbled down and exposed this radioactive craft sitting in a cave. It was atomic powered. Our government investigators had no idea about the age of it, but thought it was much older than anything else they had found.



Extraterrestrial Uranium Mining in Europe?

Anthony Barden told us that in Europe they had found a place where long ago someone had mined uranium, but the mining went back maybe 50,000 years or some really ancient time. In the uranium mine, there was no sign of picks and shovels because all the wall mines had been very precisely removed by some kind of cutting tool that removed the uranium.

URANIUM MINES HAVE BEEN FOUND WHERE GOVERNMENTS CONCLUDED NON-HUMAN ALIENS HAD DONE THE WORK CENTURIES BEFORE?

Yes, the region is triangular-shaped in Germany and France. I don’t know if it was the French or Germans mining uranium that discovered it, but they got into this one area where it had already been mined out. There were no tools or wood bracing in the tunnels and the precisely cut tunnels were very small.

THE TUNNELS WERE CLEANLY CARVED OUT IN RECTANGLES? OR?

Yes, and the discoverers followed where the uranium ore had been cut out and it was the highest quality uranium. The sub-quality mineral was just left. The modern human miners then mined what was left of the lower quality stuff. The discoverers said they thought the smooth, carved tunnels in the high quality uranium had been done thousands of years ago.

ANTHONY BARDEN HAS A BRIEFING AND HE MUST HAVE SAID SOMETHING TO YOU ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE PAST ALIEN INTERACTION ON EARTH AND WHY THERE IS INTERACTION NOW?

I believe he asked a similar question to his briefers at Langley and the answer was a run around that they didn’t know, but they thought the aliens had been here for many hundreds of thousands of years before. The difference between our modern times and ancient times is now we have fast communication between towns and nations. Back when humans lived in small villages, the aliens could operate around the planet however they wanted because from one village to another, there was little communication about their activities.

SO, WHY WOULD THE NON-HUMANS BE HERE NOW?

Anthony Barden said his briefers stressed they did not know why. The answer they gave him was that the aliens said they had come before as helpers of humanity and that’s the only answer he got from anyone.

DID ANYONE BRING UP GERMAN TECHNOLOGY?

No, he never heard of any German WWII technology until I found the document in the CIA library.





[edit on 12/11/2008 by LordThumbs]

thank you, thumbs for your graciousness in posting this information. Please keep us updated as more information is posted and becomes available to you. all the best.

i'd like to echo the thanks....this is very interesting info, and i am glad you're sharing it.

I just like to say thank you LordThumbs for everything, it was a fantastic read.

You just changed my mind regarding Earth Files as I was not realy sure if it was a waste of money subscribing.




[edit on 11-12-2008 by Bob Down Under]