Obama Presidency Watch/post election & first 100 days

reply to post by Keyhole


They will slither off into their gutter until the coast is clear and ooze forth once again... its what they do.

reply to post by grover


A Dire Warning to End-Timers!

December 11, 2010, with be day Six Six Six (666) of the Obama phenomenon! If you are really scared of December 12, 2012, then you really need to get your prayer shawls on, start counting your beads and spinning your prayer wheels or you won’t make it to 2012! Wow!

reply to post by donwhite


Yeah and there will be a blizzard of threads here at ATS from the loons who believe such tripe.

reply to post by grover


Saturday, March 26, 2009 D A Y 67

I think Obama has had a terrific 2 plus months! He is not disappointing me at all! Congressional Republicans are the ANTI Americans!

Republicans added $4 trillion to our National Debt in 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07 and 08. And NOT one $#!& Republican said ONE !#$@^ word against it. NOW suddenly as if they had underwent an ephany they feign concern over our grandchildren and weep crocodile tears! Do Republicans HAVE NO SHAME?

LIARS LIARS PANTS ON FIRE!


PS. If TOO OLD John McCain had won the election which he did not, then he wuold likly have DIED by now due to the workload he could not deal with at 72 years of age and a cancer victim and a 100% diasabled American veteran, and so the "I can see Russia from my front porch" expert

SARAH PALIN would be our president now! Thank you Jesus, for little things! Maybe you do love us after all?


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[edit on 3/28/2009 by donwhite]

I can't say that I disagree... I would add this though... the only thing Obama has done that I take exception to is putting the foxes in charge of the hen house in regards to the wall street mess.

reply to post by grover


I think he has decided NOT to re-invent the wheel. The country is NOT in a sufficiently BAD condtion to demand that nor does the coutnry or world have time for that. It is unfortunate we need those sho ruined it to try now to fix it. But that's life in the fast lane!

I don't know... I am unlike (well the hard right thinks he is) Obama a socialist by inclination and I honestly believe that certain key instituitions and industries (and resources) are too important for the health of the nation to be left to the private sector.

Note I said certain key... not all.

And the banking industry has certainly proved itself too irresponsible and incompetent to be left on its own.

But as a real socialist... I know we are not going to go down that route.

reply to post by donwhite


The Republicans added 4 trillions to the American debt and the Democrats in three months in the white hosue are at a braking record of adding 6 more trillions before the year is over, from all that already 2.6 trillion has been wasted.

Economy rescue: Adding up the dollars
The government is engaged in an unprecedented - and expensive - effort to rescue the economy. Here are all the elements of the bailouts.


money.cnn.com...

Democrats spending spree with Obama's approval.

The Bush-Paulson bailout plan of approximately $800 billion has been followed a few months later by the Obama-Geithner stimulus-bailout plan of another approximately $800 billion. Together it adds to $1.6 trillion in new Treasury debt, much of which might have to be monetized.

The U.S. money supply as measured by cash in circulation and demand deposits (checking accounts) is currently about $1.4 trillion. If this year's budget deficit is monetized, the money supply doubles. If next year's budget deficit is monetized, the money supply would have tripled in two years. Inflation would explode. The combination of high unemployment and high inflation would be devastating.

www.economyincrisis.org...

Obama score card is starting to show failing grades when it comes to Americans real needs., to stop the raising unemployment.

America Now at its Highest Unemployment Rate in 25 Years

www.marketwatch.com...

At the rate of the growing debt and the emphasis on saving the financial sector while socializing selected companines Obama Economic team is showing how inept they are at working with Americans needs.

He needs to fire his entire team before is too late.

Let face it, Obama is smart he actually knows actually really knows how to fix the economy but as usual he is been lured by the fact that he is too young and with no enough experience to see that he is been taken to a ride by the same trash that he put together to help him fix the economy and by those in his party that are the so call congress savvies that has done nohting but sink this nation to the ground.

Still Obama Socialist agenda is getting out of hand.

Really though marg the unemployment issue is an effect of the economy... he has extended unemployment even though some republican loons like jidel are refusing.

Originally posted by grover
Really though marg the unemployment issue is an effect of the economy... he has extended unemployment even though some republican loons like jidel are refusing.

He has not other choice, or he will be facing nothing shorts of riots, tent cities and more foreclosures on property, (while trying to fix the banking system.

This is call cause and effect.

But he has been ignoring the fact that without a fix to the unemployment he is just delaying the final effect of the sinking economy.

The good luck on the Markets last week is nothing more than deception, all played to lure inexperience investors into the Markets but the effect will be short lived.

The problems behind the nations economic downfall are still there, has not been addressed and still the nations population and the tax payer has been forgotten.

Obama is approaching the economic crisis the wrong way and is going to cost us dearly.

reply to post by marg6043


AND yet some republicans and many who should know better are either rejecting and/or trying to stop those finds.

reply to post by grover


That is because both sides of the trash filling the halls of congress are all pulling to their own personal and private interest.

With an economic team that is nothing short than the face of corporate America and the elite financial system what else can you expect.

Obama is deviating too much from the problems in the nation, his priorities has been shifted and for the wrong reasons.

Sorry but Obama in my opinion is losing his grip on power, Geithner and his master Bernanke are running the show now.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by grover

 

Sorry but Obama in my opinion is losing his grip on power...

I politely disagree my dear. I think he's giving them plenty of rope and its up to them to hang themselves or not...

... I will say that I think that the treasury sec. was a poor choice and he will be gone before summer's end.

reply to post by grover


I agree that he will be gone, but guess what do you think Obama has the power to do as he wants to do?

So far remember his goals? and what he wanted to do first thing in the White house as president?, what happen Grover, guess what he can not do a darn thing but what he is been told to do by Bernanke, to fix the financial first or else.

Do you think that he in his socialization agenda will be socializing the Federal Reserve? that will be the best accomplishment to the nations tax payer.

How about that.

Obama will be one term president.

If the people chose to elect a senile old B grade actor to a 2nd term or an idiot like bush minor to a 2nd term...

... well enough said.

By all rights Obama should only serve one term due to his economic policy blunders . Never the less the clock is ticking for the Republican Party which is making no attempts to become more pragmatist and less ideology driven . The jury is out on whether or not Obama will inspire people like Reagan did . IMO the Republicans display signs that they are in trouble when the best they can do is a guy who claims that monitoring volcanoes is pork . While I disagree with Romeny on social issues I think that he is more likely to inspire confidence in voters then some of the other clowns .

reply to post by xpert11


I think its way way too early to be writing him off as a 1 term president... he is obviously a smart man (its great to say that about a president again) and as soon as he stops listening to his economic advisers like the treasury sec. the better he will be.

As it stands I am mixed about his economic policy so far, I don't like the bailouts but I understand that the let em fail gut reaction isn't realistic either.

I just wish more people would think it through and realize that like it or not its a damned if you do damned if you don't situation and there are no easy sound bite solutions.

As for the Republicans they are too invested in the failed policies of movement conservatism to get it yet and that includes Romney.

It is going to take a Republican to come out and mea copa... acknowledge the party's roll in this mess... denounce them and then offer real new suggestions to fix things before they really have much of a chance of a comeback...

... that is unless Obama turns out to be a total disaster which I doubt.

As long as Obama keeps listening to his so call "financial team" and he keeps trying to "fix" wall street while adding unsustainable debt to already indebted nation and tax payer while forgetting that his priority was to create employment he will fail.

Obama Courting Disaster,
He proposes huge federal deficits from 2009 to 2011 to prop up domestic demand and break the negative feedback cycle of rising unemployment, falling incomes and sinking consumer spending, while recapitalizing the banks to get credit flowing again.

But he forgets that how can he have the banks giving loans again when our money will end up oversea to begin with, while people still unemployed can not afford and even pay for new line of credits.

This issue he has not even dare to address.

the President promises to borrow less in 2012, when he believes the economy will grow robustly again.

That is in the assumption that a miracle hits the nation and everybody has an income the banking system is fix and Wall street is booming, but forget about the trillions in debt to get us there.

The meltdown was caused by three great forces—Chinese mercantilism, dysfunctional U.S. energy policies and Wall Street abuses.

Still we are no doing anything about our trade deficit, we still doing nothing for oil dependency and Wall street still gets rewarded for incompetence at the expenses of tax payer money.

The future of America without the root problems been addressed.

However, as the economy recovers in 2010 and 2011, U.S. imports of Chinese goods and Middle East will oil expand significantly. When federal stimulus spending subsides in 2012, either foreign lenders and banks finance another round of reckless U.S. consumer borrowing, or the demand for U.S. made products will fall and the economy will fall back into recession.

Nothing but a continued vicious cycle and the American citizens woes forgotten.

www.economyincrisis.org...

reply to post by marg6043

As far as I can tell despite all of the rhetoric these levels of debt have become so large as to be absolutely meaningless.

I mean think about it could Japan or China ever collect if they decided to call them in?

No.

Its not to say that I think that they are good... I don't but past a point they become little more than an accountants fantasy.

At least that's how it seems to me.

Although it wont register on any US based media outlets radar followers of US foreign policy may be interested to know that New Zealand Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully had a meeting with Hillary in Washington DC. On the agenda was the stalled Free Trade Talks , The sale of the RNZAF Skyhawks , preventing the smuggling Nuclear material , NZ role in Afghanistan and Fiji .
Here is a thread on the subject matter .

What does everybody think of Obama visit to Iraq ?