In Australia, movie watches you -- with night vision camera

In Australia, movie watches you -- with night vision camera

apcmag.com

Hey you in the back row snogging -- security guards in cinemas will now be watching you with night vision cameras.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Do you know i am appalled to think its come down to this. First the internet restrictions now spying on us in the movies.

If this is true - well I'm lost for words I thought this was a problem in Asia not here

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You might think that when you go to the cinema you are watching a movie, but if you go to a screening of Australia over the next few weeks, chances are that the movie (or at least hired goons from 20th Century Fox) will be watching you.




apcmag.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Well, how much are they paying for the free show?

What does the cost of the movie have to do with this?

reply to post by majestictwo


They did this here afew years back but they did it by putting people in seats in the crowd to gage reactions to certain scenes in the movie. They still do it in prescreenings with movies that are cutting edge and want to see how offensive the audience gets.

Zindo

Gane believes that in-cinema recording (onto camcorders or mobile phones) is the underlying ‘technology’ used to bring 95% of the first pirated movies to the Internet or DVDs.

95%!!??!?!

How out of touch are these people? I know someone who knows someone who saw a pirate video once, from a distance, by accident - and they did not inhale so I have in on good authority that very few pirates are these 'camming' vids, quite a few have that old 'submitted for approval' line popping up - so they are clearly leaked preview editions for the industry, don't know where the others come from.


Ahhh damit.... I just realised I copy and pasted a quote directly from the site, I'm going to live in a cave for a while till the heat has died down.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual topic at hand, but I have to say that the headline totally made me think of that old Russian comedian Yakov Smirnoff. "In America, you drive Gremlin... in mother Russia, Kremlin drive you! ha-ha, ha-ha-ha"

Well I don't know about you guys but I don't like the thought of someone peering at me when I'm eating my popcorn. Seriously its an invasion of privacy because they can see you and you can't see them or does it pertain to the "peeping tom" law

I read the article and totally agree that this is an incredible invasion of privacy. I also agree that they're out of touch - no one I know gets the 'cammed' version. It's a waste of a download, and the quality is so bad you may as well pony up the cash to actually see the flick at the movies. But the thing that really threw me was that the article mentioned that Village Roadshow had employed the night-vision on two movies so far - Australia (which I won't be seeing, anyway) and Batman Returns?! WTF? Did they mean to say Batman Begins? Superman Returns? Or did they do an amalgam of the two in place of the BB sequel, The Dark Knight? They couldn't have meant Batman Returns, a movie released sixteen years ago, could they?

reply to post by Batmanatee

They couldn't have meant Batman Returns, a movie released sixteen years ago, could they?

I guess they could which means they have been spying for a while now. We have had examples here of security missusing security cameras

Originally posted by majestictwo
Well I don't know about you guys but I don't like the thought of someone peering at me when I'm eating my popcorn. Seriously its an invasion of privacy because they can see you and you can't see them or does it pertain to the "peeping tom" law

It does not pertain because you have a choice of whether or not to go to the movies. Capitalizm will take over. People vote with their dollars. If this gets carried away and people do not like it, they have a choice to stop going to theaters. When they lose money, they will alter their practices. As it stands though, this is not being kept secret, we all know about it. So it is up to you how baddly you do not want to be spied on in the dark.

Any ofyou, honestly, I do not see what the big deal is. The only thing you should be doing in the movies is watching the movie anyway. What illegal things are you all worried about getting away with on someone else's privaty property that has you so worried about this?

Originally posted by Batmanatee
.........mean to say Batman Begins? Superman Returns? Or did they do an amalgam of the two in place of the BB sequel, The Dark Knight? They couldn't have meant Batman Returns, a movie released sixteen years ago, could they?

Village Roadshow distributed "Batman Begins." Apparently it was a typo because they had nothing to do with batman returns.

Originally posted by Iblis Smiley

Originally posted by majestictwo
Well I don't know about you guys but I don't like the thought of someone peering at me when I'm eating my popcorn. Seriously its an invasion of privacy because they can see you and you can't see them or does it pertain to the "peeping tom" law

It does not pertain because you have a choice of whether or not to go to the movies. Capitalizm will take over. People vote with their dollars. If this gets carried away and people do not like it, they have a choice to stop going to theaters. When they lose money, they will alter their practices. As it stands though, this is not being kept secret, we all know about it. So it is up to you how baddly you do not want to be spied on in the dark.

Any ofyou, honestly, I do not see what the big deal is. The only thing you should be doing in the movies is watching the movie anyway. What illegal things are you all worried about getting away with on someone else's privaty property that has you so worried about this?

You are right people will vote with there feet - that is if they know. As you say it not secret but I wonder if there is a sign outside that say you are on camera or something. If there is no sign its a secret to someone who doesn't know.

Most of the movies that come out these days are unadulterated crap. Why would somebody want to pirate them? I haven't seen a decent movie in decades.

reply to post by groingrinder


I agree most movies aren’t worth going to the movies for, even if they were free. But it’s a concern I think that we can be peered on by night scoops. The better solution might be to go through a metal detector and hand in all video cameras and phones or just say your not allowed in with them. Perhaps there is a different reason why they want to spy – maybe to make sure we are enjoying ourselves.

The really sad part is they will lose more money over seas where pirated video is big business on the street corner and has been going on ever sense the invention of camcorders.

Chances are if the person doesn't see it in the movie theater they are not going to bother going to the theater because they can't download the junk version of the movie. They'll just wait till it appears on cable.

If this ever happens in the UK all they'll see if they point the camera in my direction is me stuffing my face full of popcorn, whilst moaning how the film doesn't start on time , and they can also watch me empty my popcorn bag before the film bloody starts, on and then they can watch me moan about all the kids that have their mobiles on and are either texting away or talking to friends on them, bloody kids.
The I start saying to the wife halfway through the film I want more popcorn...

Besides all they want to do it for is watch the women anyways, bloody perverts.

[edit on 28/11/08 by DataWraith]

reply to post by DataWraith


Yep DataWraith; I already said similar about the popcorn. What with the internet restriction now banning approx 10,000 sites (I’ll stand corrected on the exact amount) and now the spying in cinemas I feel Australia is being used as a test ground to see how far people can be pushed unless you know anywhere else its happening. Sorry slightly off topic but you surely take the point.

Originally posted by Now_Then

Gane believes that in-cinema recording (onto camcorders or mobile phones) is the underlying ‘technology’ used to bring 95% of the first pirated movies to the Internet or DVDs.

95%!!??!?!

How out of touch are these people? I know someone who knows someone who saw a pirate video once, from a distance, by accident - and they did not inhale

so I have in on good authority that very few pirates are these 'camming' vids, quite a few have that old 'submitted for approval' line popping up - so they are clearly leaked preview editions for the industry, don't know where the others come from.

Apparently not as out of touch as you, because I know someone who knows someone who downloads nearly every movie as soon is it is released in the theater. This same person has bought just-released movies from vendors in Asia as well and has told me of a pattern that buying a DVD of a movie that is currently in theaters is almost always a video recording from someone in a theater.

So I have in good authority that about 95% of the FIRST PIRATED movies released on the Internet/ to vendors are CAMERA RECORDINGS. The other 5% or so are DVD SCREENERS.

edit: although, Australia probably accounts for less than 5% of that 95% .




[edit on 28-11-2008 by logician magician]

reply to post by logician magician


This is partly the point. Because downloaded movies usually originate from Asia they are on the net the next day. It only takes one. It’s more likely to happen in Asia than Aus. For one thing people are generally honest and sitting with a camera grinding away in full view wouldn’t be acceptable – well not to me anyhow and not to everyone I know including the kids. I say a sign at the door that says no cameras or phones. Using a phone in the movies is down right rude anyhow should be left in the car.