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Afghan Teacher Wants Attackers Burned With Acid, Then Hanged

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:13 PM
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A 23-year-old teacher burned in an acid attack on 15 schoolgirls and instructors wants the Afghan government to throw acid on her attackers and then hang them
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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:13 PM
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We need more people like this in the world. People that want criminals prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. im all for eye for an eye and i hope this guy gets it done. The taliban hates anything that tries to educate women to further themselves in life. I have never had such a hate for a certain group in my life. these taliban are the scum of the earth.

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:17 PM
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What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye *snip*.

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by prototism
What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye *snip*.

[edit on 11/25/2008 by prototism]


thats what we have now and its not working. your method is failure

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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I agree actually, depite my generally peaceful approach to life.

If only certain lessons were placed into the status quo, then maybe certain groups would be too afraid to do their dirty deeds.

For some scumbag to attack and maim innocent people, then surely they deserve a suitable punishment.

Better yet, give them a different type of acid ('___') and place them in a small, dark room filled with pictures of the people they have maimed and let it all 'soak in' for a few days.



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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Man I am sort of on the fence here. I really don't support torture but in this case throwing some acid on these * snip * seems tempting. I say hang em, that should suffice. As far as the post by PT, what would you have the punishment be? I'm assuming you think these animals could be rehabilitated in prison and then released into the mainstream population. Sounds real rational.
Governments need to grow a pair and get harsh on deranged individuals like this. I am so damn sick of seeing criminals being coddled.

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Raustin
Man I am sort of on the fence here. I really don't support torture but in this case throwing some acid on these *snip* seems tempting. I say hang em, that should suffice.


personally i think they need to feel the pain that the victims felt. no one can imagine what it feels like to be burnt by acid unless the person has been.

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 08:31 PM
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I tend to think it is a bit over the top. But your eye-for-an-eye thing is like this man:



I am a turn-the-other-cheek type, in other words, the way of Martin Luther King Jr. But I prefer Malcolm X as a rhetor before King Jr, for certain. He has a certain style.

Wanting to hunt down someone and injury them as they injured you is a scary world to live in. I say, there is too much of that sentiment.

[edit on 25-11-2008 by pluckynoonez]



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:10 PM
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Some so called people are so bad that public executions should be used as demonstrations of what could happen to offenders for that crime. Further, pre-execution punishment should be on parity with the crime, so an acid wash would be appropriate for this crime before execution. If all they have to fear is a quick death it isn't much of a deterrent. I don't think of it as an eye for an eye but more like get tough on crime.

But, if you want to be nicer about it we could always introduce a real "Running Man" type program to give them a chance.



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by prototism
What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye bull#.

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So I guess if this was your family and they did this and perhaps killed them, would you want them to be put in a corner for time-out?..........I believe the problem in America with over crowded prisons is that we give everyone a slap on the wrist instead of the face and give the right punishment. I bet if we gave the same treatment back to the criminals, crime would drop faster than a roller coaster at six flags.



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Swatman

Originally posted by prototism
What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye *snip*.

[edit on 11/25/2008 by prototism]


thats what we have now and its not working. your method is failure


Actually I think there is a compromise here.

Any terrorists caught will be punished in the manner commensurate with their crimes.

But we stop torturing people as a means of interrogation.

Let's put them on trial first and if found guilty after due process, then have a commensurate punishment.

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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What a load of apologist crap. We don't live in some utopian world where all people are treated equally. And in Afghanistan, or anywhere else that the Taliban has a hold of, women are treated far less than human. Atrocious things are not only allowed to be perpetrated upon them, but encouraged at times. Legally. With no restraint.

These people were tortured because they were female and wanted to be educated or to educate. With your one comment you not only seem accepting of their fate, but more inclined to want to help the criminals.

There is no help for people like them. They really should just die. And their victims should get some satisfaction before that happens.

Eye for an eye isn't a biblical thing. It's a human thing. Deal with being human and have sympathy for those who were hurt and abused. Not for the evil that allocated that kind of pain on them.




Originally posted by prototism
What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye *snip*.

[edit on 11/25/2008 by prototism]


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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by rikk7111

Originally posted by prototism
What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye *snip*.

[edit on 11/25/2008 by prototism]


So I guess if this was your family and they did this and perhaps killed them, would you want them to be put in a corner for time-out?..........I believe the problem in America with over crowded prisons is that we give everyone a slap on the wrist instead of the face and give the right punishment. I bet if we gave the same treatment back to the criminals, crime would drop faster than a roller coaster at six flags.


Now don't get me wrong, I believe a man should have a trial to prove if he is guilty or innocent.I do think the penalty should equal the crime. for instance we have serial killers who have killed a great number of people and they get life, just doesn't make since to me.


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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by sabrinaleena


Deal with being human and have sympathy for those who were hurt and abused. Not for the evil that allocated that kind of pain on them.


You hit the nail on the head, why is it that everyone has sympathy for the criminal and not the victim?....Strange world we live in..



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:40 PM
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What we need in the world is more people with a rational approach to dealing with punishment. Not ass-backwards, Biblical, eye for an eye *snip*.


Let's just put some murders and rapist in your neighborhood to torment your family and friends and we'll see if you still disagree with that eye for an eye stuff.

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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
I agree actually, depite my generally peaceful approach to life.

If only certain lessons were placed into the status quo, then maybe certain groups would be too afraid to do their dirty deeds.

For some scumbag to attack and maim innocent people, then surely they deserve a suitable punishment.

Better yet, give them a different type of acid ('___') and place them in a small, dark room filled with pictures of the people they have maimed and let it all 'soak in' for a few days.


That '___' idea is something I'd support.
I do believe criminals should have to feel the harm they have inflicted on others, and then, after they fully understand what they have done, should have to make suitable recompense.

I do not believe in vengeance for the sake of vengeance. That only brutalises the person having to inflict justice on the criminal.

However, if a person blinds another in a criminal manner, that person should have their eyes taken from them and given to a person who needs an eye transplant.

If a person, committing a crime, kills another, he should have all his useful organs taken and given to others to save lives.

I expect this acid throwing terrorist shares a blood-type with at least some of the people he attacked with acid. He should have his skin taken from him and used to repair others.


One thing we an never make such criminals feel is the ongoing heartbreak of an innocent young girl being traumatised and having her beauty ruined forever for having attended a school.



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 11:08 PM
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"Do unto others as they do unto you."

You guys do realize that isn't the way the phrase is supposed to go, right? I've heard so many people twist their way into this get-even ideology, it's frankly hard to believe. So what you're telling me is that Ghandi was an idiot? Every time somebody pushed him or one of his followers down, they shouldn't have just gotten up and continued their protest, they should have pushed back?

You can try all you want, but you will never, EVER convince me that there is any justification for throwing acid on another human being.

By the way, I'm not a religious man, and I can only assume that none of you are, either, considering that you have utterly dismissed one of the most fundamental ethical elements of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Taoism, and others. Also, ancient Greek philosophy. But I guess those guys were just a bunch of crazies anyway, right?


Obviously there are people who do truly despicable things. But please consider the entirety of what it is you're saying, before you say it.



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by mr-lizard
I agree actually, depite my generally peaceful approach to life.

If only certain lessons were placed into the status quo, then maybe certain groups would be too afraid to do their dirty deeds.

For some scumbag to attack and maim innocent people, then surely they deserve a suitable punishment.

Better yet, give them a different type of acid ('___') and place them in a small, dark room filled with pictures of the people they have maimed and let it all 'soak in' for a few days.


That '___' idea is something I'd support.
I do believe criminals should have to feel the harm they have inflicted on others, and then, after they fully understand what they have done, should have to make suitable recompense.

I do not believe in vengeance for the sake of vengeance. That only brutalises the person having to inflict justice on the criminal.

However, if a person blinds another in a criminal manner, that person should have their eyes taken from them and given to a person who needs an eye transplant.

If a person, committing a crime, kills another, he should have all his useful organs taken and given to others to save lives.

I expect this acid throwing terrorist shares a blood-type with at least some of the people he attacked with acid. He should have his skin taken from him and used to repair others.


One thing we an never make such criminals feel is the ongoing heartbreak of an innocent young girl being traumatised and having her beauty ruined forever for having attended a school.


Kail, you have a few new points I would have to agree with...............It's a good way to pay back there crimes to some extent.

[edit on 25-11-2008 by rikk7111]



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa
I do believe criminals should have to feel the harm they have inflicted on others, and then, after they fully understand what they have done, should have to make suitable recompense.


You are making a huge assumption, here. You are assuming that by throwing acid on such a criminal, that criminal will "understand" the true nature of the crime they have committed.

What will you do when you find that your acts of vengeance only strengthen their own twisted, hateful convictions?



posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by Magnus47
"Do unto others as they do unto you."

You guys do realize that isn't the way the phrase is supposed to go, right? I've heard so many people twist their way into this get-even ideology, it's frankly hard to believe. So what you're telling me is that Ghandi was an idiot? Every time somebody pushed him or one of his followers down, they shouldn't have just gotten up and continued their protest, they should have pushed back?

You can try all you want, but you will never, EVER convince me that there is any justification for throwing acid on another human being.

By the way, I'm not a religious man, and I can only assume that none of you are, either, considering that you have utterly dismissed one of the most fundamental ethical elements of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Taoism, and others. Also, ancient Greek philosophy. But I guess those guys were just a bunch of crazies anyway, right?


Obviously there are people who do truly despicable things. But please consider the entirety of what it is you're saying, before you say it.


should that mean they should just walk away scott-free?.........There are times to turn the other cheek, but there are times for punishment as well.




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