Aliens and crash sites ... truth or fabrication?

This is my opinion. Take it for what it’s.

As a believer of intelligent life outside our solar system, I truly find it very difficult to imagine that Aliens have visited our planet [even making contact with government agencies is far fetched and a bit ridiculous IMO]. You, the person reading this, can you actually look at yourself in the mirror and say you believe in all the testimonies, video/audio footages, pictorial images, declassified documents, so-call stolen Top Secret documents, etc? You might have even witnessed something you cannot explain ... but automatically jumping the gun and stating it was an Extra-Terrestrial craft is probably a bit too much.

If Aliens are visiting plant Earth, let us astutely assume their technology is far beyond that of our own. As perfect as it must be to not only travel long distances and navigate through space debris [exclude time travel and opening of warp portals for one moment], let us also assume that there technology also has flaws [taking the approach of "nothing is perfect"].

Don't you find it odd that Alien crafts seem to frequently crash on our planet? Below will find a list of so-called crashes and bodies exhumed [www.ufoevidence.org...]:

1939-46 Spitzenbergen, NORWAY
4 July 1947 Roswell, NEW MEXICO 4 Bodies
13 Feb 1948 Aztec, NEW MEXICO 12 Bodies
7 July 1948 MEXICO So.of LAREDO TX 1 Body
1949 Roswell, NEW MEXICO 1 ET Living
1952 Spitzenbergen, NORWAY 2 Bodies
14 Aug 1952 Ely, NEVADA 16 Bodies
10 Sep 1950 Albuquerque, NEW MEXICO 3 Bodies
18 Apr 1953 S.W. ARIZONA No Bodies
20 May 1953 Kingman, ARIZONA 1 Body
19 June 1953 Laredo, TEXAS 4 Bodies
10 July 1953 Johofnisburg S.AFRICA 5 Bodies
13 Oct 1953 Dutton, MONTANA 4 Bodies
5 May 1955 Brighton, ENGLAND 4 Bodies
18 July 1957 Carlsbad, NEW MEXICO 4 Bodies
1961 Timmensdorfer, GERMANY 12 Bodies
12 June 1962 Holloman AFB, NEW MEXICO 2 Bodies
10 Nov 1964 Ft.Riley, KANSAS 9 Bodies
27 Oct 1966 N.W. ARIZONA 1 Body
1966-1968 5 CRASHES IN/KY/OH AREA 3 Bodies Disk Intact
18 July 1977 MORROCO SAHARA DESERT 3 Bodies
10 July 1973 NW ARIZONA 5 Bodies
25 Aug 1974 CHIHUAHUAMEXICO? Bodies Disk Intact
12 May 1976 AUSTRALIAN DESERT 4 Bodies
22 June 1977 NW ARIZONA 5 Bodies
5 Apr 1977 SW OHIO 11 Bodies
17 Aug 1977 TOBASCO MEXICO 2 Bodies
May 1978 BOLIVIA No Bodies
Nov 1988 AFGHANISTAN 7 Bodies
May 1989 SOUTH AFRICA 2 ET Living
June 1989 SOUTH AFRICA 2 ET Disk Intact
July 1989 SIBERIA 9 ET Living
2 Sept 1990 Megas Platanos, GREECE?
Nov 1992 Long Island NY, NEW YORK?


Assuming such quasi-list is true, seems to me that Aliens need to learn how to control their ships. An awful lot of crashes seem to happen and nobody is teaching them how to drive?!?! But let us exclude all of these. Let's relax, take in a deep breath, and recall the most important crash of them all: Roswell.

It has long been discussed that Roswell was a fabricated crash by the United States government to inadvertently convince the Russians that the US too had superior technology equal to Russia during this Truman Presidency.

Roswell happened on July 8, 1947
Kiev in Russia happened a month earlier in June 1947

I truly doubt Roswell happen and am disgusted that its commercial success continues to thrive on our ignorance. Every single one of those people are liars. You know the players, but here is just a random snippet:

Major Jesse Marcel
(R&S2) "We [Cavitt and himself] found some metal, small bits of metal. ... I wanted to see some of the stuff burn, but all I had was a cigarette lighter ... I lit the cigarette lighter to some of this stuff and it didn't burn."

(R&S1, SR#2, interviewed by Leonard Stringfield) "The metal fragments varied in size up to six inches in length, but were the thickness of tinfoil. The fragments were unusual because they were of great strength. They could not be bent or broken, no matter what pressure we applied by hand."

[edit on 24-11-2008 by Quazze]

Colonel Philip J. Corso has a book entitled, "The Day After Roswell", written by Sean Casteel. Talk about an entertaining piece of trash (didn't computers use punch hole cards back then; reverse engineering this technology was not even possible). I will not discredit Mr. Corso or his imagination, but come on now guys. Do Super Hero's exist too?

Once again, let's exclude the propaganda and US military cover up's. UFO Crashes are nothing more than propaganda for Top Secret government military projects.

Black Triangles? Simply a new military craft that we do not wish to expose, and not Extra Terrestrial spaceships. During the 1970's, a Russian scientist named Pyotr Ufimtsev, created a mathematical model while working for Lockheed Skunk Works. If it took 20 years later to develop and deploy this into combat, logically speaking, why would the United States deploy Black Triangles now (during Iraq/Afghanistan war)? That is our trump card and we do not need to pull it out now during wars where we already have air superiority. Stealth aircrafts will dominate everyone's Air Force until other countries catch on. Once done, then "Black Triangles" will be introduced as the next step in air domination.

I have rattled on and off the subject at hand, and for that I apologize. But I need this to get through to some of you: The frequency of UFO crashes is a myth.

I'd understand if "landers" have crashed here on purpose, just like what we have done on Mars. But we are talking about crashes, and even more about Aliens surviving, breathing our air (magically immune to the micro-biological aspect of Earth's deadly life-forms), and living for days and days to be interrogated, investigated and possibly cared for by American human beings.

Do you think on some Alien planet they have vacation destinations that state, "Visit Earth and watch early man in his existence"? Are we being studied or simply creatures living on a world where other beings are examining us to learn about true prehistoric evolution? Natural selection at its finest!

Remember that UFO poster that reads, "I want to believe?" Well, I too want to believe, but sometimes you have to wash away with the obvious idiocracies and see the truth as it is: We are tender and loving creatures with an intellect that thrives on unveiling truths about issues we cannot uncover. We want to believe and we are capable beings of creating fallacies to convince others of fictitious ideologies.

Think about it! Are we alone or are crashes an everyday experience in the bizarre mindset of Extra-Terrestrials and governments of the world are apt enough to cover up this existence? Hell, show me a person or government who can keep a secret and I'll show you a buck tooth pig with baby blue eyes that can fly through hoops of fire.

[edit on 24-11-2008 by Quazze]

reply to post by Quazze


whats the frequency Quazzel ?

unless you can provide accurate information on the total number of alledged alien craft visitations to earth - then the number of alledged crashes is a meaningless statistic

you list 34 alleged crashes - now if there were only 40 alien visitation - then 34 crashes would be a unnacceptable loss rate , but if there are millions / year - then 34 is ` a drop in the ocean `

look at airline saftey statistics for a comparison - they tabulate incidents / million passenger miles

You have done some home work so why ask the question?

I realise what your asking but you will not get a 100% undeniable proof/evidence to prove the above.

So like myself there are questions that need an answer and you will have to sort them out for yourself and dig deeper for the truth.

I do not need proof as I have witnessed a disc craft at close range and it was not one of ours?

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1. Lt Colonel Corso's book is filled with errors, and there are no references or cites on it. I think the co-writer took advantage of an older gentleman and embellished the book to sell copies.

2. Kevin Randle wrote a book in 1994 about UFO crashes entitled: "A History of UFO Crashes". Some of the cases get a chapter each to look at the evidence, but in the back he has all the reported and alleged crashes listed. He uses the word hoax and not enough information for most of the crashes. He also states that UFO crashes are actually quite rare, about one a decade or so.

Most of the crashes are based on speculations and friend of a friend stories, with no witnesses or any kind of evidence. They could state different times and locations, but could be one crash with many different versions of it.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Quazze

 

whats the frequency Quazzel ?

unless you can provide accurate information on the total number of alledged alien craft visitations to earth - then the number of alledged crashes is a meaningless statistic

you list 34 alleged crashes - now if there were only 40 alien visitation - then 34 crashes would be a unnacceptable loss rate , but if there are millions / year - then 34 is ` a drop in the ocean `

look at airline saftey statistics for a comparison - they tabulate incidents / million passenger miles

It would be impossible for anyone to obtain an "accurate" number of visitations from Alien spacecrafts, if such visitations are true. I clearly agree that a statistical ratio of visits per crashes determine success vs. failure. But your kindly diverting the queston at hand: Are crashes truth or fabrication?

Do you believe that so many of these crashes have happened and that the governments of the world are covering it up? Let's say 5 crashes have happened and that we have been visited 500,000 seperate times. Comparing this to today's aviation means that 1 in every 100,000 trips a craft crashes. This is a joke.

According to statistics, an airplane has a 1 in 11 million chance of crashing. [www.fearlessflight.com...]

Don't Aliens have superior technology that is safe and sound working? I advise you to look at the big picture.

If we compare our flight safety records to that of Alien craft crashes we get this figure (taking into account 34 hypothetical crash reports). If 1 in 11 million airplanes crashes, and if this is true for ET spaceships, and if they have crashed 34 times, we get a total visitation mark of 374,000,000 times.

Let's say there has only been a single crash, which means we have been visited 11,000,000 times.

And out of all those visitations and crashes, there is not a single ounce of proof (if you believe fuzzy videos are proof, then so be it)? As the famous rapper Chuck D once said, "don't believe the hype!"