Bi-linear thinking

OK you must realise this by now I hope. But bi does not = linear, far from it. TUTUT Black and white , right and wrong, left and right arhghhghg need I go on.

It causes undo stress on the system yes thats right the system we call it the holographic stuctual comfortablity of the universe. This is why few humans are accepted. Too Blah or Bler whatever simpleton. And don;t find that offensive unless you are a simpleton!

SO YES BACK TO THE GOOD FOLK HERE ON ATS. Don;t think in terms of the above surely you must be beyond that now, thats why we must all meet up. Only takes a while to bring everyone up to speed, BUT, WE MUST RESERVE THE POWER TO EJECT TIMECONSUMERS/DISTRACTIONS blah, bler gone.......

I have the music to get our frequency up its very trusting and in synch with my mind. Mmmmmm

Let me know if you need to hear more on the subject of this topic heading but in all honesty I haven;t got so much time to explain if you are in objections to what I say. Only if you are open and understanding will I spend time with you, its a refractive thing I have to be careful about time.

[edit on 22-11-2008 by pharaohmoan]

is this some kind of club? who is the "we" you're talking about? you're saying that thinking in different directions causes stress and wastes energy, yeah i can see that being true.

what do you mean by many humans are not accepted? are you saying that some non humans are part of this?

Originally posted by pharaohmoan
Only if you are open and understanding will I spend time with you, its a refractive thing I have to be careful about time.

Me too. So speak.

Originally posted by Mozzy
is this some kind of club? who is the "we" you're talking about? you're saying that thinking in different directions causes stress and wastes energy, yeah i can see that being true.

what do you mean by many humans are not accepted? are you saying that some non humans are part of this?

OK apologies if my OP wasn't that clear.

During deep mediation which for me involves connecting to the multiverse, I have noticed that any thoughts whatsoever to do with thinking in a 50/50 way are very detrimental to staying connected to the higher streams of consciousness. From what I can gather it not only causes instability but is also a primitive way of thinking in comparison to the intelligence that exists out there in the various dimensions. Because most humans think this way few are accepted or allowed to plug in directly, purely because it requires a whole different approach when it comes to approaching the Source, which flows with purpose and a kind of joyful innocence. Any references to materiality and its woes hinder the progress of truly experiencing the holographic moment. The mind in my opinion in order to enter these streams has to think and react accordingly ie holographically. Also the other sore point is that our 50/50 way of thinking ie black and white, rich and poor, right and wrong creates too much of a see-saw effect with us in the middle. Some call this balance, yin and yan etc but I hate this school of thought. Balance means you are giving equal weight to opposite polarities which is wrong, the universe isn't like that. There is light, progress, bonding, expression, evolution and much more, each are always ongoing and little weight should be given to any detrimental forces that seek to violate the hologram and its structural integrity.

IMO few from earth will make it directly onto the mothership, most don't understand the complexity and mindset it takes to meld ones mind to these higher frequencies of light, love, intelligence and organisation. Hope that doesn’t seem patronising or anything, its just an observation! Unless you can read and understand natures code I don't think many humans here in this realm stand a chance of direct and true integration. I suspect that there are other worlds to prepare people for this.

It's hard to explain what I mean by true integration, I think it has something to do with acceptance by not only very intelligent and spiritually aware entities ie Aliens, but also the cosmos which is keen to see the ascension of light beings here on earth. There is no doubt the tools are at hand in our universe principally black holes, which from what I can gather are our gateway into achieving the next stage of realization and evolution of the mind and soul. A very SAFE gateway I might add! However we must be united in thought and purpose when in comes to approaching the event horizon, we must act as a complete organism to survive the journey intact. This is a prerequisite for entering a black hole. We cannot do this if someone swims away from the unit with idle thoughts, as this has the effect of temporarily breaks the structural integrity of the unit.

So do yourself a favor and think efficiently!

OK, some questions.

What is a hologram? You have borrowed the term from science and attributed your own meaning. If you can provide a definition it may allow more insight into your perception. Also, how does one "violate" its "structural integrity".

What is a mothership? Why do those on Earth have to make it onto the mothership?

What is the multiverse?

Why must you "reserve the power to eject timeconsumers/distractions" and what purpose does isolation serve? Why is your time limited?

reply to post by YourForever


I agree that 'hologram' is a confusing term; unless you've heard it applied in a metaphysical context, it's easily confused with things like R2D2's Princess Lea projection, etc.

Here's an article that provides an introduction:
twm.co.nz...

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University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram.
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In addition to its phantomlike nature, such a universe would possess other rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all things in the universe are infinitely interconnected.

I myself prefer the term 'holomorphic' to describe the concept.

With regard to the term 'bi-linear', to me that implies a linear interpolation in two dimensions:



In this example, data is interpolated between the Q points on the top and bottom rows, by a specific fraction, to locate the two points R (the first 'linear' interpolation), then the point P is located by interpolating between the two R points (the second 'linear' interpolation). This results in a 'bilinear' interpolation.

There may be some metaphysical analogy that can be read from that, but I don't think it's exactly what the OP was intending. More info?

Originally posted by Ian McLean
There may be some metaphysical analogy that can be read from that, but I don't think it's exactly what the OP was intending.

Me neither. I am interested to hear his explanations.

Thanks for the links.

Originally posted by YourForever
OK, some questions.

What is a hologram? You have borrowed the term from science and attributed your own meaning. If you can provide a definition it may allow more insight into your perception. Also, how does one "violate" its "structural integrity".

What is a mothership? Why do those on Earth have to make it onto the mothership?

What is the multiverse?

Why must you "reserve the power to eject time consumers/distractions" and what purpose does isolation serve? Why is your time limited?

I have used the term hologram to express the complexity and interwoven nature of the higher streams of consciousness, I have read the book The Holographic Universe and its theories/findings sit comfortable with me.
To be honest I have found that our universe is generally speaking structurally sound due to the laws in place and the parameters set for each medium, but that does not prevent malevolent forces from wanting to imprint their energy into it. Such energy is normally quickly recognised and rejected, however from experience they can try to hitch a lift into whichever streams are being accessed and can at times cause a disturbance.

My use of the term the mothership is to describe what I see as the epicenter or zero point of consciousness from which infinity stems.
It is the control centre that sets the physical laws in place and the place unto which one can achieve true transcendence. It is interwoven into the very nature of reality as we know it. It is my belief that this it is the destination or at the very least should be for those able whom are worthy and are truly enlightened. My use of the term truly enlightened would encompass a person with Neo-human like qualities. I have not met anyone yet with Neo-human like qualities!

If we ever do approach a time when all the enlightened being of the earth connect, or even a group for that matter, then it saves a lot of time and effort if those seeking to create a disturbance are simply ejected from that gathering. This type of set up takes more organisation.

Time is always of the essense for me as I am for the most part often plugged in.

I understand what Ian said about the universe being phantasm like, or as many have said an illusion. I know this because when I concentrate I can see my surroundings move and breath as though I am stepping into different parts of the hologram. This happens when I shift my spirit body.

[edit on 22-11-2008 by pharaohmoan]

Very interesting. Thanks for the explanations.

Do you think we have an obligation to reform some of the lost souls, even if they are malevolent?

If you shun them will they not coalesce in an undesirable plane of existance?

Your theory on group entity assimilation to pass through effectively (black hole) is unfit thus far with me. Can you elaborate on your assertion?

Also, you can do more while "plugged-in" if you see it that way.

Interesting thread, however your purpose is beginning to trail off. What is it you are really suggesting?

AAC

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Your theory on group entity assimilation to pass through effectively (black hole) is unfit thus far with me. Can you elaborate on your assertion?

Also, you can do more while "plugged-in" if you see it that way.

Interesting thread, however your purpose is beginning to trail off. What is it you are really suggesting?

AAC

Sorry but I differ, I understand black hole dynamics better than most as I have already been through one. Its true what they say about time it behaves very different. The problem is the physically of this world is far to dense. So we must use the tools given to us and that is our spirit body. This can pass thorough a black hole providing the body is complete and aligned. If unsuccesful then ......... the outcome is simply an unfloding of the same scenario, yes the universe is patient.

I am describing what non-linear thought paterns can do for some of the individuals here on ATS and similar. I am describing that the outcome once one has a thorough understanding of the dynamics or reality can lead to which is to clarify access to not a stargate but a universal gate.
In essence I am preparing those that are ready. It's in my nature to share with the cream of society, I hold members here on ATS in high standing IOW I am well pleased to be here and the quality of the posts impresses me to the point of trust and openess to share ones findings and what I believe to be divulgence of some source code. So far I have not been attacked for my honesty and comments.

Originally posted by YourForever
Very interesting. Thanks for the explanations.

Do you think we have an obligation to reform some of the lost souls, even if they are malevolent?

If you shun them will they not coalesce in an undesirable plane of existance?

2 of the most acute minded comments I've heard for a while. You know your stuff. Both are very judgemental positions where if seated in should involve thinking big picture stuff......so how much life/time should be given to those who do not contribute to the evolutionary process and go who go about creating undesireable distubances

To answer this question one needs to know 1) If and how they influence the whole, 2) How much effort it takes to fix the problem and at what cost to the whole 3)Is the problem fixable (paradox terratory) 4)Strength of charactor of the elite withing the various soul groups based on soul history and progression 5) If they can contribute to the whole, and finally if we can be bothered. Sometimes one has to cut ones losses anyway in the end God can recreate life at will if a part is for some reason missing.


The last part is being taken care off, it's worms all the way.......


[edit on 22-11-2008 by pharaohmoan]

Originally posted by pharaohmoan

I appreciate your spiritual candidness, please allow me to dig at your existence.

Sorry but I differ, I understand black hole dynamics better than most as I have already been through one.

Has your knowledge come from astral experience first, then retro confirmation, or vice versa?

You blend in topics of interest, and I feel as if my reply wasn't totally computed from the direction of your reply. I guess I will just ask it straight forward. Are you asserting that only a group entity (all working in unison) may enter such a transitional place? I was under the impression my energy is pre-destined and independent of such necessity.

Many may not, however I'm sure a few would be interested in a play by play of your travels.

The problem is the physically of this world is far to dense.

Yet it still has purpose for each unfolding spirit. What is your position on rectification of the lost? Does your conscience have no plan? Are you yourself surrendered to concept of preparing the ticket holders only for their journey?

So we must use the tools given to us and that is our spirit body. This can pass thorough a black hole providing the body is complete and aligned. If unsuccesful then ......... the outcome is simply an unfloding of the same scenario, yes the universe is patient.

Could you clear this up please?

It's in my nature to share with the cream of society,

I see.

May I ask you what it is that you are sharing, outside of your personal interpretations? Like how it is applicable to those outside your thought process. This detail would help in securing more vast attention to your words.

AAC

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If the wayward is a product of its own diseased creation, can it not be gradually rectified through a change of environment to one of light? The premise being a lost soul retains the potential of redemption from his inner divinity, repressed as it may be.

When taking such positions of judgement would you advocate an approach of universal love for the highest caliber of ethics, or a logical utilitarian sentancing structure?

Many thanks in advance.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

Pharaohmoan - Sorry but I differ, I understand black hole dynamics better than most as I have already been through one.

AC - Has your knowledge come from astral experience first, then retro confirmation, or vice versa?

You blend in topics of interest, and I feel as if my reply wasn't totally computed from the direction of your reply. I guess I will just ask it straight forward. Are you asserting that only a group entity (all working in unison) may enter such a transitional place? I was under the impression my energy is pre-destined and independent of such necessity.

I’ll be honest with you it wasn’t an astral experience it was a physical one I won’t explain it fully as it’s a little unbelievable, in part however it had to do with the activation of my kundalini which gathered enough energy to propel my consciousness through time, some 15 years to be exact. During this time I made some observations and have been able to correlate what happened on that day with the actual science aspect of black holes. Unbelievably I concur with the findings of people like Professor Hawkins.

Your energy is predestined in a way but that doesn’t mean you are pre-destined to enter a black hole for the purposes of travel. I believe black holes also operate as a safeguard against undesirable/dirty energy from exiting this universe. Also from experience ascension is not a personal affair it involves not only the individual but also the connections you have established during your journey both etherical or energetic connections and whatever is encoded in you DNA ie the journey of you lineage to some extent.

Pharaohmoan - The problem is the physically of this world is far to dense.

AC - Yet it still has purpose for each unfolding spirit. What is your position on rectification of the lost? Does your conscience have no plan? Are you yourself surrendered to concept of preparing the ticket holders only for their journey?

Big sigh, I have had a realization once of the lost souls, it was probably one of the saddest moments of my life. There are so many lost out there it breaks my heart. But and it’s a big but I believe in moving forward to find the answers, and as the problem is so big it requires thinking outside of the box in order to at the very least leave a path, or at the very least a plane of existence where they find themselves again and remain happy and content. So at the moment I am concentrating on the gathering a crew which is already being done, I am connected to many souls already, one of my biggest questions however is how to escape our physical bodies to aid ascension.

Pharaohmoan - So we must use the tools given to us and that is our spirit body. This can pass thorough a black hole providing the body is complete and aligned. If unsuccesful then ......... the outcome is simply an unfloding of the same scenario, yes the universe is patient.

AC - Could you clear this up please?

Oh boy I knew what I was talking about when I said it but it comes and goes! Obviously I am talking about ascension when I talk about the spirit body being prepared to enter a black hole. The spirit body has to be both complete and aligned, a state almost Buddhic in nature if you like. I don’t know why this is but it may have something to do with the way black holes rip apart matter and energy down to its component parts. Similarly so the body needs to be complete as does the unit. Maybe it has to do with reassembly at the other end! Much more than this I can’t say.


[edit on 23-11-2008 by pharaohmoan]

Pharaohmoan - It's in my nature to share with the cream of society

AC - May I ask you what it is that you are sharing, outside of your personal interpretations? Like how it is applicable to those outside your thought process. This detail would help in securing more vast attention to your words.

Sure I believe I am a very unique and special individual with the power to work with matter and energy on vast scales. I am multi-dimensional for sure and can access the higher streams of consciousness at will. I remember the big bang and a little before that. I can program reality where needed in fact I am a programmer at heart, closely followed by my pursuit to achieve perfection or something close to it at least.
I have had countless spiritual experiences acting as confirmation both to my thoughts and ideals. At the very least I am a self realized Angel/Alien on earth. I didn’t really want to say that as it seems a little too egoistical/delusional right, well self denial is just as bad so I choose honesty and being true to oneself. In essence I am hoping to find others like me and I seem to have had an element of success here on ATS.

Originally posted by YourForever
reply to post by pharaohmoan

 

If the wayward is a product of its own diseased creation, can it not be gradually rectified through a change of environment to one of light? The premise being a lost soul retains the potential of redemption from his inner divinity, repressed as it may be.

When taking such positions of judgement would you advocate an approach of universal love for the highest caliber of ethics, or a logical utilitarian sentancing structure?

Many thanks in advance.

Very exact question and well worded.

From what I have learnt and what others like David Icke, Michael Tzarion etc have taught is that the wayward are wayward for a reason mostly it is because they have worked and continue to work against creation. It is for this reason they should not be thrown a lifeline. Why embrace someone how has spat in your face and smiled at your suffering!

Your second question is very deep if I might say. Firstly I don't believe everyone has earned the right to be embraced with the universe’s unconditional love, it just doesn't feel right to reward those with such a gift whom have contributed nothing in their lives and whom may have done more bad than good. So with this in mind I would have to say I am inclined to adopt the logical utilitarian sentencing structure, possibly with an small opening for those who truly convert to the light. IOW one last chance for a select few.
I have seen evil and cruelty many times and it is truly disgusting and illogical to me. Some people truly deserve to suffer for what they have done and if that means being denied the universes love and remaining on the lower planes then so be it. In time we will have to decide collectively if we have the stomach to inflict any greater suffering on those who have transgressed us.

sounds like you've put a lot of thought into this. i do wonder about the black holes though, seems like the EU theory is gaining ground in that area.

it would take a lot to make me quit believing in balance though. if you apply that to your thoughts and say that bilinear thinking represents balanced thought them i'm gonna disagree. balance is multidimensional as well. i can agree that singlemindedness is a great virtue but i can't imagine how balance wouldn't fit in with that.

Originally posted by Mozzy
it would take a lot to make me quit believing in balance though. if you apply that to your thoughts and say that bilinear thinking represents balanced thought them i'm gonna disagree. balance is multidimensional as well. i can agree that singlemindedness is a great virtue but i can't imagine how balance wouldn't fit in with that.

You have to understand polarities of the mind and the meaning of balance, along with the bi-linear way of thinking that is common in our reality. Deciding between two choices creates an inbalance in the mind, the mind finds it very hard to balance two choices so will for the most part act in a polar fashion. If it does give equal weight to two choices then it is thought the individual ‘can't make up their minds’ which is a polaric fluctuation.

Balance in a sense is the act mentally giving two forces which do not align (else they wouldn’t be presented as two choices in the first place) equal weight. If the universe were this way it would be forced to accept bonds with forces it is not in alignment with that would not be in keep with the pursuit of perfection which is what I believe the universe is striving to achieve. Harmony does not equal balance. This mindset is the middle road where extremities are not experienced and ascension is unlikely.
If balance were OK as you say then would it also be ok for me to do harm to people 50% of the time and do good to other people the other 50% of the time right?

sounds a lot like a Daoist philosophy, the good ol Yin and Yang, rising above duality etc etc. Coolness.

From what I have learnt and what others like David Icke, Michael Tzarion

I am a little skeptical of some of Icke's propositions. Do you believe he speaks the complete truth?

the wayward are wayward for a reason mostly it is because they have worked and continue to work against creation

Are you saying that the wayward have been destined from the beginning for this nefarious purpose? That their destructive tendency is encoded in spirit? That their ultimate goal is the elimination of creation?

If so, how do we discern a true wayward from any other soul in disarray? If the answer is merely time and observation, who keeps the track record of a soul's vibration and how?

Firstly I don't believe everyone has earned the right to be embraced with the universe’s unconditional love, it just doesn't feel right to reward those with such a gift whom have contributed nothing in their lives and whom may have done more bad than good.

Would you argue that universal love is limited in effectiveness? That there are some souls it cannot touch and purify, despite them too being from source?

If I may respond to your other posts.

At the very least I am a self realized Angel/Alien on earth.

Indeed, there are many lineages of incarnate soul on this planet. Can you say with any pinpoint accuracy what your previous source is? Now looking at the bigger picture, what percent of incarnates on Earth are inhabited by foreign souls? Would you say you are strictly here to enact missions, or to learn more by exposure, aswell?

In essence I am hoping to find others like me

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gathered enough energy to propel my consciousness through time, some 15 years to be exact

I may be misunderstanding you here, but are you saying you retroactively experienced conciousness of Earth, 15 years ago? Or is this comment just in relation to space?

If the universe were this way it would be forced to accept bonds with forces it is not in alignment with that would not be in keep with the pursuit of perfection which is what I believe the universe is striving to achieve...If balance were OK as you say then would it also be ok for me to do harm to people 50% of the time and do good to other people the other 50% of the time right?

Do you disregard the possibility of balance becoming a third way of its own nature and not just a measured sum of parts. For example in the way two chemicals could combine to form a unique property, or even evolution, instead of the aforementioned 50/50 model?

Thanks again.

what makes you think you don't harm people 50% of teh time? of course you do, that's balance, lol.

forgive me if i'm wrong but i'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you aren't a musician or a painter?

you would understand balance more if you were. now, i am NOT saying that you are wrong and that the goal of the universe is to superceed dualities and achieve oneness. however, this theory can be seen in practice every day.

take the extremes for example. if mozart did not accept his feminine side the he would NEVER, NEEEVEEER have risen above the level of, say, danzig. hehe not such a great example but artists that are too masculine will never be famous so it's hard to find a band that everyone will recognize. same for females, it is just as hard for women to learn to try and control things enough for their music to take direction.

all of this aside, i think we are arguing different sides of the same coin. balancing masculine/feminine is congruent with direct thinking. (my term for the opposite of your bi lateral thinking ok?) undisturbed focus on a singular idea will provide maxium results. (as if i would know, hehe)

i belive you're biting at the right vein but we're disagreeing over terminology.

kundalini yoga was taught to fix the "problems" with the human psyche. the submerge the differences of male/female logistics and emerge a complete being. of course this implies all sorts of weird thoughts and stories that i don't know the ansewr to. but i think the point is that life is a process and understanding balance is a fundament not to be dismissed.