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"Imagine, everywhere you hear that story about a blackmail dossier in which organizations of the extreme right are in the possession of pictures and videos on which a number of prominent people in and around Brussels have sex with young girls; minors it is said. The existence of this dossier has always been vehemently denied

This is the generally hard-to-get 1999 book 'The X-Dossiers', written by respected investigative journalists Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck, Annemie Bulté and Douglas De Coninck. Page after page they explain how the most important aspects of the whole Dutroux investigation, in which Dutroux ultimately became a minor detail, were manipulated and finally discarded. The book presented the most powerful case possible for a massive cover up. However, there was one thing the authors couldn't do and that was to publish the names of those who had been accused by a whole range of witnesses.

Probably the most important (and underreported) thing that happened in the aftermath of the Dutroux affair was that a number of victims from pedophile networks felt that this was their once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to testify about what they had experienced. Until Connerotte and Bourlet were able to arrest Dutroux and Nihoul, and retrieve two missing girls, these victim-witnesses did not know who in the Justice Department they could trust. Many of these victims already had tried to speak to the authorities, but investigations never got off the ground. The victims knew the reason: among their abusers were the most powerful men in Belgium: police commissioners, gendarme officers, judges, bankers, businessmen, politicians and high nobility figures.

This is a most interesting, yet very long article about the behind doors pedophile and murder cult of upper class society in Beligum, indicating stateside connections. These stories are so sad. Photos slightly graphic, but not illegal.
Light stomachs might not want to read the testimonies.
This sort of thing, I believe is in conspiracy to media blackout.

[edit on 22-11-2008 by HugmyRek]


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[edit on 22/1108/08 by neformore]

i think i read about this in david icke's book, the biggest secret. he talks about powerful politicians who engage in satanic rituals and cited this story.

I seriously think you NEED to add a HUGE warning due to the pictures!

They are NOT "slightly" they are VERY graphic!!!!

[edit on 11/22/2008 by greeneyedleo]

This is why there has to be a coup to remove the power from the Elite to the people, so the wealthy cream of the scum of society can't thumb their noses to people and say 'We can do anything we want. We own this world'

People, we have write our politicians and demand that pedophiles be removed or terminated from society. They cannot be rehabilitated.

Child abuse is something that's hard for people to handle, and the pedophiles know it! Since the problem is ignored, they carry on. People need to start cracking skulls and punching throats.

In Canada powerful pedophiles in the highest positions of society are encouraging judges, some pedophiles themselves, to give meager slap-on-the-wrist sentences to pedophiles.

In Canada, rob a store, get 5 years. Rape a child, get 5 months.

Then to top off the insult, the faux authorities then let the pedo off into an unsuspecting community, but for security reasons, they don't ID the pedo to the public. Go figure.

Well, that is A LOT of info on that website. It would take me a long time to go through it all.

And here's the question I always go back to... WHY? I guess I don't really want to know or to understand fully, but why? What drives someone to do this? I can think of the few hundred people I know as acquaintances, friends, coworkers, etc., and never would I would think any of them capable of anything close to this.

I do often think that most of the time ignorance truly is bliss.

hmm theyv bin taken down wat were they pictures of?

Originally posted by HugmyRek

"Imagine, everywhere you hear that story about a blackmail dossier in which organizations of the extreme right are in the possession of pictures and videos on which a number of prominent people in and around Brussels have sex with young girls; minors it is said. The existence of this dossier has always been vehemently denied

During this administration, there have been revelations of high ranking pentagon personnel blackmailing subordinates with financial or sexual information. There were also numerous reports of pedophilia involving Bush 41. Some people say that Reagan was also involved.

This kind of blackmail would go a long way towards trying to understand the behavior of the US political machine.

I can't think of another subject matter that pisses me off more.


These people deserve nothing more that a quick end and a meeting with their Maker. I would love to be involved with an organization that rolls in in force to free and bring justice. Something good to put my military and police training to use. Anybody know of such a group?

I've heard from a lot of sources about powerful people taking part in "Satanic Rituals". Can I ask something though... What exactly is a Satanic Ritual? I am not a Christian so am I Satanic? If these orginizations have been around for over 3,000 years as Ike has claimed, they predate Christianity. No one ever clearifies "satanic Rituals".

Anybody out ther want to elaborate?

Originally posted by Jkd Up
I've heard from a lot of sources about powerful people taking part in "Satanic Rituals". Can I ask something though... What exactly is a Satanic Ritual? I am not a Christian so am I Satanic? If these orginizations have been around for over 3,000 years as Ike has claimed, they predate Christianity. No one ever clearifies "satanic Rituals".

Anybody out ther want to elaborate?

Here's some information on "skull-n-bones" rituals. Quite some time ago, I've read that older skull and bones activities involved, among other things, caskets and homosexuality. It would be very interesting to see some video of those older rituals to determine the facts.

Does this rise to "satanic" level? I dunno.


www.youtube.com...





[edit on 11/22/2008 by anonymousATS]

That's kind of the thing though... Satanic ritual is a universal term. It's like... Angus Burger... It's not specific. What religion are these power borkers? I've heard Lucifarian, Masonic, and numerous otheers, but no one seems to be unanimous about it.

Wow, just wow.

It sounds so far out that you would hope it's not real. I seriously can't imagine the horror that these kids endured for the pleasure of others. The thought that some were put in that position by their own family just makes it that much worse.

Yes, the pictures are horribly graphic and, frankly, the article would have been sufficient without them.

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This is sad and disgusting if it's true. I will have to do some further research on it. Yet the upper elite having child sex rings doesn't sound impossible to me.

-Ign0RanT

HI.
I'll be away from the thread for a few days while I make and take measures to assure to the staff of ATS that I will not post links like that in the future.

Thank you, and have a nice day!
HugmyRek

This # is seriously sinister. These are the people that run our country. These are some of those bankers. These are people that need to be weeded out.

The sad part is is that it continues to go on after many years despite the fact that many americans watch CSI and the like and hope they catch the badguys with the latest gizmos.

Why aren't these people being brought to justice? The American people are as much to blame as the people perpetrating these vile acts against innocent children. They are to blame because there have been a few exposes on similar atrocities throughout recent history, like the franklin cover up.

People would rather believe its michael jackson and people you see on to catch a predator are the ones responsible for all the children that go missing every day. It makes me want to puke

I've lost all steam on this issue for awhile.
People are being kidnapped and butchered.

We have so many 'missing' here in the US--how many of our own are being dragged through this kind of organization-or even shipped overseas-to participate unwillingly in a horrible media format, that we can't even fathom-let alone talk about, and certainly won't view--

The very criminality of the crime of the subject: makes identification and rescue: Impossible to ever be able to identify the Lost.

I wonder how much of thier continued slavery or brief demise is based on the publics need to be hush hush on the topic. The very media silence--creates, and thus supports, a continued atmosphere which makes this whole thing a continuing issue for them, and for us. These people are on the losing end. When will it end? Will it ever end.

Not long ago, canada and others busted a large group of people who apparently trafficked in people-world wide. It was a great win for everyone, but the media phrasing was geared to smooth over the issue from the public concience's, in a manner which indicated that the victims agreed to the terms of their indenture for various benifits. I find it hard to believe this. Maybe I am comparing apples to oarnges.

The necessary motivation to take up the flag of war against trafficking, kidnapping, and all the unmentionables that go along with it-is disclosure. To maintain perceptions and avoid the famed coined "public panic" (ie: public concern), disclosure is lost, rephrased, or completely reorganized to decribe the truth. That is my belief. Has the public ever panicked? No. But, I see it as a circular fallacy. One side saying withholding disclosure is because the public definately will-without any examples at all whatsoever to use in arguement, and then withholding those truths based upon that essential unknown that doesn't exist.
And I find that all--so confusing.

So I leave that here, until such time as I can speak to the issue without speaking to the issue, in a manner that is rated for all audiences by all stretches of the word.

Which might just be impossible.
I just hope that someday, the government squashes this human tragedy, this crime against humanity, in a very big way, in every sense and all meanings of the term.

Because....it would be nice to know~that the above doesn't really happen to the common and innocent person. Whether we know it or not--that isn't how it works.