Why the F*** is there a PNAC banner on ATS?

Dear Lord, this criminal organization masquerading as a "think tank" was allowed here?

The LORD say that "vengence is mine", BT...what ya think?

seekerof

BTW BT, subjectively, it really can't be as bad as the avatar you are promoting?
Found one you may want to replace it with:





seekerof

There truly is a god in heaven, I bow down and give thanks.


Real....or......not, this has had me rolling in laughter all morning long. Touche'

[Edited on 1-4-2004 by Phoenix]

For a site that denies ignorance, I'm amazed that they would let this pack of inept criminals advertise here.:bnghd:

[Edited on 1-4-2004 by Colonel]

Hey, don't complain about their humor or you'll get slapped with a title similar to mine.

Bangin

Well Bangin, maybe you can find Jesus like the rest of these Nazis PNAC guys and then Big Brother won't take you out 1984-style.

Finding Jesus is a subjective matter to you Colonel...I mean, if one is not a Democrat, they are destined for Hell, correct?

Give me a break....get a Coke and have a smile and relax.


seekerof

You know what I can't reax about? Its that me, BT, and others have posted several times about this PNAC and how they set us up for this Iraqi war, how their Nazis, etc. From all the repugnants here, there was a chorus of NOOOO!. We're jsut conspiracy theorists. We're crazy. No such organization.

Now, we have their banner and everyone is like,"Whatever."

I say let em advertise, If anything it may spark up enough debate to get new people to see what they are about. Also and I am not saying this is the case. But maybe we are wrong about them, at least on the case they are Nazis etc. (I said Maybe) And everyone deserves free speech, But then again these are google ads and they probably bought alot of spots , so F@ck them. lol I need to take my meds

First off, you can discuss PNAC till your blue in the face for all I care.
Second, neither you, BT, and/or others have confirmed that PNAC "set-us-up"....how 'they' are Nazis (another subjective judgement), etc.

All you, and others, have done is made an "educated guess".
BTW, I recall that Mr. Clarke coined and utilized the phrase "electronic Pearl Harbor".....any connections there Colonel, hmmm? I mean, according to you, you folks are "conspiracy theorists," right? How about throw that in the mixer and spin it and see what the end product is.....maybe you, as others, will be the one's spouting "NOOOO!" and "Whatever"?
Though we are on opposite sides of the spectrum, I hear ya brother-in-arms....hows that Coke?


seekerof

[Edited on 1-4-2004 by Seekerof]

but, if we were to post Moveon.org's banner, some of you would love that, eh?

Our motto may be 'deny ignorance' - it's not 'deny money'

BT, the Gordon Gecko capitalist, as you've called yourself, should understand advertising more than anyone. It costs money to run ATS, lots of it. ATS will from time to time post banner ads to cover the cost of the service that is provided. Remember the TechTV ad not so long ago? Well, I think PNAC wanted a few months of banner ads, (political season and all) with an option of an extension, If Im not mistaken, the 'bidness' side of ats isnt my thing. But, click the PNAC banner and support ats!!!

so basically, ats will sell its soul for money anytime?



peace.

if NMBLA gave you millions to put a link to their site, would you?


i hope you wouldn't go that far.

peace

Originally posted by Seekerof
Second, neither you, BT, and/or others have confirmed that PNAC "set-us-up"....how 'they' are Nazis (another subjective judgement), etc.

So Seek, you're actually Karen Hughs!?!?
Watch out, pheonix has that groupie lust look in his/her eye for you!

The subjects for discussion on ATS: 99.999% are unconfirmable, in an absolute sense. So, again in an absolute sense, all things discussed range from rant to conjecture to reasoned thought to strong hypothesis.
PNAC setting us up is strong hypothesis, given that the flimsiest excuse ( Iraq connected to 9/11 ) was the catalyst to pull Middle East Specialist Military units out of the Afgan farce & redeploy them to Iraq, along with a few 100k's more. Add to that the the authors of Rebuilding America's Defenses, which is a blueprint to everything that has happened & everything that will happen in Iraq, completely run the Executive Branch of our Government!!

That it doesn't register with you is because you're a Bush Apologist, with others, well, they're just ignorant.

As for my Mussolini Avatar

- We don't have Nazi's in PNAC or running our government, we have Italian style Fascists. People, usually those same ignorant Neo-Cons, bristle at this very accurate labeling because they don't know history.
Mussolini's version was not bunnies & hugs, but they were far from Nazi's.
From Benito's manifesto, tell me this doesn't cover some of your ilk's pro war fevor: "...It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism -- born of a renunciation of the struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have courage to meet it. All other trials are substitutes, which never really put men into the position where they have to make the great decision -- the alternative of life or death.... "

fas�cism [ f� sh�zzm ] any movement, tendency, or ideology that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

Think of:

"Dictaorship seems a whole lot easier, as long as I'm Dictator" - Bush

" God chose me" - Bush

"I think God wanted George Bush to be America's leader through this" - Rudolph Giulliani

- Corporate America has had banner profits yet jobs are no where to be seen.

- Corporate America has had all of their lobbying prayers answered: deregulation, decreased federal oversight, decreased federal environmental oversight, federal welfare.

- "FREE SPEECH ZONES"

- "America's vision for the world"

- There are few things dumber than the whole administration wearing American Flag lapel pins.......who'd you think they worked for, Israel maybe?

SO, yes, my avatar speaks exactly on how I feel about the cowards in the Republican party exclusively concerned about being in and staying in power, as opposed to thinking about protecting & advancing America.

Originally posted by Truth

so basically, ats will sell its soul for money anytime?



peace.

They wont if you wanna pay for this. Send them a check for the exact amount that banner brings them.

Also these are YOUR OPINIONS of this Organization.
What else should ATS do for YOUR OPINIONS. I got it no MUSLIMS on the Board ever, Only those who have enlightened by the light of Jesus, Alleluia

Sorry for the Sarcasm, But both side can be and should be represented. And half the time both sides are right and wrong at something.

Wheter you like the ad or not, then dont click on it. This is why the FCC is turning off Stern, and dont realize people have choices and buttons to turn the channel. ughhh

Originally posted by Bout Time
- We don't have Nazi's in PNAC or running our government, we have Italian style Fascists. People, usually those same ignorant Neo-Cons, bristle at this very accurate labeling because they don't know history.

Damn. I keep forgetting. Sorry 'bout that.

Originally posted by Bob88
but, if we were to post Moveon.org's banner, some of you would love that, eh?

Our motto may be 'deny ignorance' - it's not 'deny money'

BT, the Gordon Gecko capitalist, as you've called yourself, should understand advertising more than anyone.

Hmmm...Ben & Jerry versus Dick Cheney & Don Rumsfeld.....who has f***ed America royaly!?!

I completely understand the business to it & hope they are long term advertizers here for the fiscal well being of the site....I just hope William was smart enough to charge an election year premium....those scumbags can afford it!
That being said, it's a different subject on whether they should be here. One, which can take a back seat to revenue for awhile.

shift, i did not say i disagreed with this organization completely, but w
as asking if ats would sell its soul [if the price is right]



peace

Truth: you're comparing PNAC to Nambla??

Don't worry, I'm sure we can find some commie groups to advertise with us, if that'll untwist everyones panties. geez. Think of it this way: every time you click the PNAC banner you're making them pay for the site! Sort of like the tobacco companies paying for those 'truth' commercials. But, we're not allowed to direct anyone to click the banner ads....