Those behind the Obama BC conspiracy

There is an obvious attempt here to discredit president elect Obama and his win by making the claim that he was not actually born here. Every week there is something new about his birth certificate and it is almost as if whatever flaws are found in these claims to discredit the new president elect there is always some excuse or the accusation of "denial" on those who see these flaws in these birth certificate claims. I mean I find it hypocritical when one is to use the word ignorance to describe those who choose to see through these BC smears and yet this information tends to be always partisan or bias in nature.

So where is this information of Obamas birth certificate sourced from in the first place? They certainly are not from major independent news outlets, infact at best we tend to find these birth certificate smears sourced from bias sources who tend to be slanted a certain way.

Heres one, "americas right"
www.americasright.com...
Way to go to get your information from a conservative blog that seems to do nothing else but talk about these smears against the president elect, better yet, what a place to get your source of information from even those it directly links itself to "fox news" "the drudge report" and the "national rifles association". Damn, what a way to deny ignorance.
(well atleast they confirmed bergs case was dismissed)

And heres another one, "the right perspective"
therightperspective.com...
What a place to get your sources of information when you have negative feelings against the president elect. Why dont we deny ignorance by going to an obvious rightwing website that seems to have half its stories about Barack Obama. Hey heres a message straight from that website:
The greatest enemy of the political “left” are facts! Liberals have taught John that since they choose to believe what they want

www.obamacrimes.com...
Yes lets get our information about the man from a website created only to smear the man by the very guy, berg, who is trying to sue Obama. I mean seriously how the heck can anybody take a thread seriously that chooses to reference from these outright slanted sources??

And last on my list,
worldnetdaily.com...
Yes, this self proclaimed "independent" news outlet has such articles as,
Homosexual madness
Why the powerful despise Sarah Palin
and "Is liberalism political madness"

These are the kinds of places folks here tend to get information from to claim this and that about the president elects brith certificate. I mean seriously how are we going to deny ignorance as a community here on ATS if we are going to constantly believe and take an individuals word for it purely before we have our own personal agenda, nevermind the facts.

So now lets look further into those members who have made attempts to put Obama on trial.

Phillip J berg

As you all know this man started the "charge" against Obama and his birth certificate and ever since then members here have been jumping on bandwagon taking this entire charge as true and referencing this mans claim whenever they wish to smear barack Obama. So who is Philip J berg, whats his deal??

Phil, as Ill call him, was Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania for about 8years. He ran twice for the governors position and once for the US senate and on all those times he failed to win these elections. It should also be noted that phil here was a very passionate and strong supporter of Hillary clinton during the primaries and donated and undisclosed amount to her campaign over that period of time. He could be quoted for refering to hillary as "she is a remarkable woman" Phil could also be quoted saying that Obama just never turned me on among many other negative feelings against the president elect when speaking on one of the anti-Obama websites.

You see, the first thing to take note here is that Berg has always suffered from dissapointment through his life, as have we all, but with phil here, he seems to take it to heart, and on somebody else. The man ran numerous times for a life politics but failed, and we he had hopes in getting a woman he so admired into the president, after his money spent and time donated, all fell apart. It is evident phil here has very deep personal issues about Obama that had nothing to do with the constitution the birth certificate, and his passion about hillary ran deep, so deep that her loss pushed him over. But his motives for making these accusations on Obama go deeper.

Mr Berg is an opportunist along with his goals for political ambition, he has through his political career made court cases against large political figures like the three Supreme Court Justices in 2000 and against Bush in the past where he called for world leaders to lay charges on what is the most powerful man on earth. Now I like the idea that charging these folks, but its obvious berg was acting too big for his boots, and as far as I can see it, the man has been seeking the media lime light for some time now and his doing no different. The man had a personal agenda.

How about another thing from bergs past,
___________________________________________

RICHARD HOLSWORTH and ELIZABETH : CIVIL ACTION
HOLSWORTH
Plaintiffs VS

PHILIP J. BERG, ESQ
Defendant

www.paed.uscourts.gov...
___________________________________________

It appears that he takes no responsibility for carrying his work out in a irresponsible manner to those clients who pay him in the assumption that his a good lawyer. His known by judges to be professionally incompetent in his work and history of trying to score media attention should be evident enough for this.

Alan keyes

Why are folks now so desperate to jump onto his courtcase against Obama. This man probably has the most obvious personal agenda against the president elect as compared to anybody else.

On numerous times Keye ran for public office including the two presidential campaigns in 1996 and again in 2004. He ran for the Maryland senate in 1988 and 1992. The man attracted controversy when he was exposed for taking $8,463/month salary from his campaign fund during his 92' run. Lets not forget his loss to Obama for the illinois senate in 2004 after a bitter campaign and then ran against him again in the 2008 presidential elections.
www.buyingofthepresident.org...

How many times are you going to post the same article?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

OK, why is this even an issue.... have the person produce the BC and it is a dead story. Hell, since it is a requirement to be born in the US to even be president, it should have already been on file.

[edit on 16-11-2008 by infolurker]

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You already have a topic on this, One is enough,


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